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Tiger05

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One of the things all good halves have is good temperament, focus and an ability to change tactics if needed. imo Galvins temperament is shit. It’s always a big joke. He’s got the look of possible ADHD? Not game over but definately not an advantage either

I think his temperament is fine but he hasn't been tested. I look at someone like Reece Walsh who is an elite player but he is a moron. I think Walsh is worth less because of his temperament.

Did you think maybe Gould praised him up so some other fool team would damage their cap.
He didn’t save us from the spoon like Ponga or Thurston no doubt would have. Wait untill he’s put under real pressure from top 6 teams and then see if the $mil discussions continue

I can't justify a big pay packet for the kid. He hasn't proven himself.

I still think it's a risk in relation to how good he becomes.

Gould is a funny one. His comments about Galvin winning premierships was crazy shit. I mean sure Galvin can win a premiership but currently Galvin will be a cog in the machine.
 

WA Tiger

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I keep remembering the instructions he was given at the start of one of the exercises on the army camp. He was asked to relay them to the rest of the team.. He was completely lost and as he said he had no idea what to say..he’s the de facto leader
 

WA Tiger

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Ponga, Cleary, Tedesco, Tommy Turbo, Latrell and Brown. Pick the out one out ?

I mean it's a good counter argument but the problem is Brown had his lucky moment with that contract.
You could put Galvins name in that list and get a bigger Sesame Street “one of these things is not like the other”. Brown isn’t elite but to say Galvins better than Brown right now is rubbish
 

Tiger Ted

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Is he ? I don't know. This is the issue. We are paying him to be Ponga or Turbo or Tedesco in his prime. We are talking about paying him the same amount as we are paying Luai.

I completely agree the goal of a club is to win. You don't win by overpaying players.

I reckon he could be a great player but I don't know if you play him in the halves or in the forwards. In the halves he lacks pace and zip and in the forwards he is too small right now.

I'd like to think we could come to a fair deal for both parties but I'm not sure if that is going to be possible.
It’s inevitable that a fair deal with Isaac Moses is inconceivable.Its why I’m extremely certain he will sign with the dogs or rorters teams backed by billionaires who will stop at nothing to get their man
 

Tiger Ted

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Ponga, Cleary, Tedesco, Tommy Turbo, Latrell and Brown. Pick the out one out ?

I mean it's a good counter argument but the problem is Brown had his lucky moment with that contract.
Undoubtedly Brown is the luckiest kid in OZ sport.Hes deadset not worth half the money the drug addled knights offered him
 

Tiger Ted

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I think his temperament is fine but he hasn't been tested. I look at someone like Reece Walsh who is an elite player but he is a moron. I think Walsh is worth less because of his temperament.



I can't justify a big pay packet for the kid. He hasn't proven himself.

I still think it's a risk in relation to how good he becomes.

Gould is a funny one. His comments about Galvin winning premierships was crazy shit. I mean sure Galvin can win a premiership but currently Galvin will be a cog in the machine.
The ogre Gould is the master of deception & only communicates in smoke & mirrors
 

WA Tiger

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Undoubtedly Brown is the luckiest kid in OZ sport.Hes deadset not worth half the money the drug addled knights offered him
It may not be what he can do alone but more they could be looking at what he can do in combination with Ponga .. Brown isn’t a bad player in fact he can be outstanding The knights know they need another gun half to get a premiership. Brown/pongas combo will be a more fruitful than Hastings/Ponga that’s for sure and prob better than Brown /moses.. ..Who knows maybe a lot more than even we all thought. 2 maori boys yea baby..who wouldn’t want to play alongside ponga
 
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Brown reminds me so much of Luke Brooks. 3 great games a year and the rest average at best. Not a leader. I absolutely guarantee the knights won't win a comp while brown is at the club. The only thing it'll accomplish is driving fletcher Sharpe elsewhere.

With Galvin, at least his manager is helping us unwittingly by going to November 1 (so he says.) We will know a lot more about how his game progresses (or doesn't) with good quality around him. We'll also see if his leadership skills improve. We'll be able to much better determine the best offer to put to him.
 
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Yeah, I think his mum and dad will have a say in it as well.
I think they will as well. They won't tell him but they'll be pushing him to take the highest long term offer. They'll be thinking that the rugby league gods are fickle, and injury could strike at any time. They'll be thinking the best for him but also trying to silently prepare for the worst. If a Simon dryer / tuaki situation were to arise they'd want him looked after as good as can be.
 

WA Tiger

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I think they will as well. They won't tell him but they'll be pushing him to take the highest long term offer. They'll be thinking that the rugby league gods are fickle, and injury could strike at any time. They'll be thinking the best for him but also trying to silently prepare for the worst. If a Simon dryer / tuaki situation were to arise they'd want him looked after as good as can be.
For a learned gentleman (except I’m assuming when you are hung over or was that brother Jim.. I get you both mixed up when you’s get angry but you are both capable of shaking the rafters as I guess I am at times, but I think to a lesser degree) you use the word guarantee far took often .. it was a taboo word throughout my sales career because of the obvious consequences if it backfires. here more willy nilly usage has far less consequences. But without seeing into the future or at least how it looks on the field guaranteed is in advisable and “I strongly feel” is recommended...let’s hope Galvin isn’t in your category of brown and brooks when we play teams other than the equivalent of under fives. Ok under 12’s.
If anyone uses the word guarantee they usually get a rant from me especially if they use it twice. And especially when the other time was you referring to pongas premiership shortcomings recently despite him genuinely taking the mantle of the overused phrase “a once in a generation player” and currently the best player in our game. That a premiership is not achievable for the knights with Ponga on board is a big call, especially as you said even in the next 10 years . “Guaranteed” in that context sounds like it’s built more on emotion than anything solid
 
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Nutz

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I can't justify a big pay packet for the kid. He hasn't proven himself.

I would.
I'd pay him as much as we could afford after securing a leadership group of 10 of our best to build a team around.
The rest can be cash cow development players.
He reminds me of a Brad Fittler type player.
 

Tigerm

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I would.
I'd pay him as much as we could afford after securing a leadership group of 10 of our best to build a team around.
The rest can be cash cow development players.
He reminds me of a Brad Fittler type player.
Agree, we have an opportunity to build a side to take us into the top 8 for years to come.
I think there should be incentives in his contract, to make him a wealthy young man, but it's not is if we are signing an unknown player, who doesn't have the skills to make it.
 

Nutz

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Agree, we have an opportunity to build a side to take us into the top 8 for years to come.
I think there should be incentives in his contract, to make him a wealthy young man, but it's not is if we are signing an unknown player, who doesn't have the skills to make it.

Yep, everything in life is a gamble hey. I think the RLPA and the NRL need to sign off on a tiered salary system.
The amount of money a player can earn is based on an apprenticeship system.
Once a kid finishes year 10, that's when when he starts year 1 of his apprenticeship and finishes at the end of his 4th season.
During those 4 years, players can be placed into performance based groups. Performance groups are statistically rated. For example a ½ would have more creditations for try assists, forced repeat sets, 40/20, goal kicking %, unforced errors, forwards more of post contact metres, missed tackles etc and further points are gained by his involvement in junior programs, school involvement and their own high school grades 11 and 12 grade report cards. (Similar to college footy). This ensures they are employable after footy career.
So they can't say it's a restriction of trade because he isn't yet a qualified tradesman.
Having a 17-18 year old potentially earning a million dollars a year seems unethical and ludicrous.
This apprenticeship scheme would stop players who have done the hard yards over 4 years, being walked all over by an 18-year-old.
Obviously, every year, the base salary goes up as well as his performance based salary either goes up or down.
 
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