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Sack Adam O'Brien

Mr Angry

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For mine making Ponga captain was always an error, best player is not always captain with good reason. Brailey should be made captain, you want an off field quite person, well spoken.

Anyways Mr 4 GFS is a dick, so there you go.
 

PhilGould

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Knights coach Adam O’Brien has been called out for comments regarding the team’s fitness and the assertion that Luke Brooks would have dramatically changed the outcome of their season.

O’Brien used a break for Covid as an excuse for the team not being fit enough and believes the club’s failure to lure Brooks from the Tigers had a huge effect on their dismal 2022 campaign.

“Adam O’Brien saying that Luke Brooks definitely would have changed their team, I agree with him,” Braith Anasta said on NRL 360.

However, Phil Rothfield believes the decision to let Mitchell Pearce leave with a year remaining on his contract was an even bigger mistake.

“Hold on, why did he let Mitchell Pearce go?” Rothfield said.

“Yeah I don’t know, but was that a bit of both ways?” Anasta asked.

“Mitchell Pearce wanting to move on and the Knights going in a change of direction?”

“Where would you rank Mitchell Pearce over the last couple of years as a half?” Rothfield continued.

“Behind Cleary. Behind Hughes. Behind Cherry-Evans, but that would just about be it.

“I think it was a mistake that Pearce was in a position where he wanted to go.”

Paul Kent revealed Pearce left because he was not feeling wanted by the Knights and he also took issue with O’Brien’s comments on the team’s fitness.

“He felt unloved at Newcastle, which is why he left because at one point he didn’t want to go to France, but he wasn’t feeling the love,” Kent said.

“I like Adam O’Brien, but that was a weird interview.

“Missing one week of training before Christmas because of Covid doesn’t mean you are unfit for the whole season. You have got bigger problems there.

“They were unfit the Knights. There is too much player power at the Knights. There is not enough faith in the coach at the Knights.

“As far as Luke Brooks being the solution for them. They raved and raved about Clifford and Clune at the start of the season and how well they were going.

“They actually did start off pretty well. There was a period where they won their first two games and they were the buy of the year at the start of the year.”

Rothfield believes the fact Penrith’s premiership winning high performance man Hayden Knowles couldn’t improve the side’s fitness is evidence of deeper issues at the club.

“You are talking about their fitness, when Penrith won the competition Hayden Knowles was their head of high performance,” Rothfield said.

“They signed him to come to Newcastle to turn them into as fit as Penrith are and that didn’t work out. He had the blue with Klemmer and he left before the end of the season. It is messy that club.”

Kent believes it is farcical to suggest a break due to Covid is the reason Knowles couldn’t improve the side’s fitness.

“Hayden Knowles knows what it takes to get a team to that level,” Kent said.

“Now why Hayden Knowles was not able to implement that, I don’t buy that one week of missed training before Christmas because of Covid so fathers could have Christmas with their kids was the reason.”

Brent Read revealed the Knights still haven’t given up hope of luring Brooks to Newcastle despite the fact he is signed on big money to the Tigers for 2023 and reportedly in discussions over an extension.

“It is not dead and buried,” Read said.

“He is definitely still on the radar.”

“I think they are also having a sneaky look at Brodie Croft,” Kent added.

“I think they have been offered Brodie Croft and he wants to come back, but I don’t know if they want him,” Read corrected.

Anasta believes the Knights need to pick their halves and back them.

“Clifford and Clune are still there too,” Anasta said.

“They have already got four halfbacks in their top 30,” Kent said.

“Commit to one or two,” Anasta said.

“They are dipping their toes in the water with five halves.”

Read believes the Knights need to make a call on Brooks one way or the other and move on, so they don’t risk the saga dragging on into another season.

“There has been a bit of talk about Clifford or Clune potentially moving on,” Read said.

“What they need to do is sort the Brooks situation out early and just draw a line in the sand with him. If it is not done by this date, we are moving on without him because last year it just lingered too long and they thought they were a chance of getting him and it stuffed their whole season up.

“They just need to get it done as soon as they can. Find out one way or the other and exhaust every option to get him. If they can’t get him then move on.”

Anasta warned the Knights don’t have the right halves on their books to turn things around.

“If I am being honest and this is no disrespect to those players, but the four or five halves they have got there now are not the solution at all,” Anasta said.

However, Rothfield believes the side’s lack of a halfback is still not their biggest issue.

“You know where they need to start is their culture because Kalyn Ponga and Kurt Mann were caught in a bathroom on the drink while both out injured and escaped with no penalty whatsoever,” Rothfield said.

“Their culture is a bigger problem than their halfback.”

 

Jono078

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That last line hurts the most and I feel is true.

Geez I hope Parr has a plan in place for when we fire AOB next season.
 

Yosh

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Brooks was literally the halfback of the worst NRL side of the last decade. Would he have made any difference?

Fitness? You have 52 weeks in a year, one week doesn't make that much of a difference.

AOB has clearly lost touch with reality. He needs to go now.
 

Mr_Knightside

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Brooks was literally the halfback of the worst NRL side of the last decade. Would he have made any difference?

Fitness? You have 52 weeks in a year, one week doesn't make that much of a difference.

AOB has clearly lost touch with reality. He needs to go now.
Actually we’ve been the worst NRL side of the last decade. Three wooden spoons will attest to that.
 

Loose Cannon

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It is such a shame that a lack of fitness can’t be addressed during the season proper, but I can see our scintillating attacking game plan being a priority. Then, of course, the time invested in getting our defensive structure right can’t be underestimated. Also, Tuesday‘s are a complete write-off, in order to copy-and-paste a team sheet.

And then there is the issue of the six-day turnaround.
 

Old dog

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1 week, 5 weeks, surely anyone isolating could still be working out to maintain or improve fitness, they had nothing else to do if following correct protocol, most Covid patients suffered very little and isolation was precautionary
 

Mr_Knightside

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Not sure where Kent is getting the "1 week" line from. AOB said in the interview they lost nearly 5 weeks of the preseason
I was thinking that when I read this too. Where did they get 1 week from? I can see why it would draw a lot of criticism if it was actually 1 week that we lost but if it is indeed 5 weeks as per the interview then that's a massive chunk of the pre-season wiped out and I'm not surprised that our fitness was an issue.
 

Mr_Knightside

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1 week, 5 weeks, surely anyone isolating could still be working out to maintain or improve fitness, they had nothing else to do if following correct protocol, most Covid patients suffered very little and isolation was precautionary
If it was this simple then why do professional teams train in the first place? How about we sack all the support staff and close down the gym and all the facilities because the players can just keep fit and train at home... That'd save millions of dollars per year!

These blokes all have different living environments, good luck keeping fit at home if you're a guy on a low end fringe contract isolating in a 2 bedroom shared apartment. If you're on $1m a season and have a home gym with all the equipment and a treadmill then yeah you should be able to stay in good shape but I doubt many of the players have a whole setup like that at home. Not to mention access to all the support staff who are there to keep you on track as well as the support of all your team mates.

I doubt they were all on the couch eating KFC for five weeks but in professional sports where even a couple of % difference can make all the difference then yes 5 weeks not training at the club facilities as a group would have a huge impact on the team's pre-season and subsequently the season itself.

I think people are seriously underestimating the stuff that impacted us this year. Some of it could have been prevented I'm sure but it seems like it was all a bit of a shit storm where all the worst things happened at the worst times for the club. This will hopefully provide a learning experience for the club and the coaching staff as a whole and ideally they can deal with adversity a bit better in future.
 

Haffa

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I think people are seriously underestimating the stuff that impacted us this year. Some of it could have been prevented I'm sure but it seems like it was all a bit of a shit storm where all the worst things happened at the worst times for the club. This will hopefully provide a learning experience for the club and the coaching staff as a whole and ideally they can deal with adversity a bit better in future.
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