Sack Adam O'Brien

[Loose Cannon]

So a 14.

No.

 

[aqua_duck]

Maybe so. But it was well documented that Brown saw Mann as an option at 9, and signed him in order to play that role.

Injuries to Watson, Ponga etc. negated his initial intentions.

We can go around in circles with this but the point is by the time Mann got here it was pretty obviously he was not a first grade centre or 5/8th anymore, in fact he had only played one game at centre since 2018 until AOB decided to make him a starting centre again in 2021.

 

[Loose Cannon]

We can go around in circles with this but the point is by the time Mann got here it was pretty obviously he was not a first grade centre or 5/8th anymore,

Exactly right. No argument here.

My point is that Brown, although aware of Mann’s utility value, had his vision of turning Kurt into a hooker. That is what he wanted to do with him. Mann signed on with that expectation.

From the link I posted.
Nathan Brown: “We believe Kurt has the potential to become a hooker and his ability to play a range of positions is an added bonus in today’s game.
”Kurt expressed a desire to secure a regular position and he’ll be given every opportunity to do that.”

 

[TooheysNew]

Exactly right. No argument here.

My point is that Brown, although aware of Mann’s utility value, had his vision of turning Kurt into a hooker. That is what he wanted to do with him. Mann signed on with that expectation.

From the link I posted.
Nathan Brown: “We believe Kurt has the potential to become a hooker and his ability to play a range of positions is an added bonus in today’s game.
”Kurt expressed a desire to secure a regular position and he’ll be given every opportunity to do that.”

14 is a regular position.

 

[HarVeeGee]

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Yep and to that I’d add, in recent history, the Saifiti twins. Both were controversial selections the first time they got picked. Probably THE most questioned selections in those particular teams. Daniel in particular got selected on the back of pretty much just one really good game, in 2019 - 2020 was his first ever consistently great season. Daniel had a run of games at that level after that where he was legitimately the best forward on the field arguably, so maybe that has erased memories of how controversial the original selection was?

 

[macavity]

Yep and to that I’d add, in recent history, the Saifiti twins. Both were controversial selections the first time they got picked. Probably THE most questioned selections in those particular teams. Daniel in particular got selected on the back of pretty much just one really good game, in 2019 - 2020 was his first ever consistently great season. Daniel had a run of games at that level after that where he was legitimately the best forward on the field arguably, so maybe that has erased memories of how controversial the original selection was?

and both of them played very very well in Origin.