Sack Griffin

[Coffs dragon]

Personally, I believe we are in for a very tough & lean year ahead. I really believe Hook is Dead Man walking & hence, no pressure as we are expected to finish at the rear.

Any sign of improvement & exceed expectations, can be purely attributed to the 2 new assistant coaches in Ryan Carr & Ben Woolf. It very much sounds like they are driving the bus in a different direction.
Any surprising & forthcoming improvement could see one of these blokes take the reigns rather than an old boy!

 

[Dragon David]

Personally, I believe we are in for a very tough & lean year ahead. I really believe Hook is Dead Man walking & hence, no pressure as we are expected to finish at the rear.

Any sign of improvement & exceed expectations, can be purely attributed to the 2 new assistant coaches in Ryan Carr & Ben Woolf. It very much sounds like they are driving the bus in a different direction.
Any surprising & forthcoming improvement could see one of these blokes take the reigns rather than an old boy!

That could happen Coffs. We have a trial game against St Helens on 11th February and the coach of that club is Ben Woolf's brother Kristian. What are our chances of getting Kristian to coach the Dragons in 2024 with his brother Ben assisting?

 

[dungay dragon]

That could happen Coffs. We have a trial game against St Helens on 11th February and the coach of that club is Ben Woolf's brother Kristian. What are our chances of getting Kristian to coach the Dragons in 2024 with his brother Ben assisting?

DD thought Kristian was signed on as Deputy at the Dolphins for 23 and beyond ??
To your point have always rated him , and he and his brother would do a cracking job with an influx of troops .......

 

[Coffs dragon]

That could happen Coffs. We have a trial game against St Helens on 11th February and the coach of that club is Ben Woolf's brother Kristian. What are our chances of getting Kristian to coach the Dragons in 2024 with his brother Ben assisting?

Hey DD…..zero chance as a Kristian is the assistant coach to Wayne Bennett at the Dolphins NRL for 2023-24. He will then take over as head coach as per contract agreed last year.

 

[Dragon David]

DD thought Kristian was signed on as Deputy at the Dolphins for 23 and beyond ??
To your point have always rated him , and he and his brother would do a cracking job with an influx of troops .......

Yes you are right of course but just wishful thinking. As usual, our group of numbskulls of people running the club should have lined Kristian up before any consideration of extending Hook for 2023.

 

[Dragon David]

Hey DD…..zero chance as a Kristian is the assistant coach to Wayne Bennett at the Dolphins NRL for 2023-24. He will then take over as head coach as per contract agreed last year.

Thanks Coffs. That ship had sailed well and truly from my memory bank unfortunately. It could then mean that Kristian's brother, Ben, could end up at the Dolphins as well in 2024 as he is only signed for this year with us.

 

[justadragon]

I guess he could have said that "the year will be a tough one and there will be times that we will struggle and that while we do have several spots to fill to be roster number compliant, the good ones have already been snapped up because those responsible for recruiting have only just taken over from our old friend Shane Flanagan who we all know did bugger all. So we are still scratching our heads deciding who the hell will be the best fit for us out of the bunch of not so good unwanted players from other clubs".

His answer about his length of time coaching the Dragons this year was that it would be 24 weeks instead of 8 weeks. Maybe the Board has already told him this?

Anyway, whatever will be, will be.

very well said Dave, I would have gladly accepted your explanation for this year rather than Hooks, at least its an honest appraisal

 

[Blood Shot Eyes]

To be honest like previous seasons it always concerns me before a whistle is blown when I hear...theres real comeradrie amongst the players..theres fire in their bellies.....its been a great off season.....weve got someting to build off....we will make the play offs...ive seen real growth etc etc......"wished I could sleep as well as Hook"

 

[OneEyedDragon]

I guess he could have said that "the year will be a tough one and there will be times that we will struggle and that while we do have several spots to fill to be roster number compliant, the good ones have already been snapped up because those responsible for recruiting have only just taken over from our old friend Shane Flanagan who we all know did bugger all. So we are still scratching our heads deciding who the hell will be the best fit for us out of the bunch of not so good unwanted players from other clubs".

His answer about his length of time coaching the Dragons this year was that it would be 24 weeks instead of 8 weeks. Maybe the Board has already told him this?

Anyway, whatever will be, will be.

24 weeks? What? Surely he should add the extra games for the finals?

 

[thebigredv]

To be honest like previous seasons it always concerns me before a whistle is blown when I hear...theres real comeradrie amongst the players..theres fire in their bellies.....its been a great off season.....weve got someting to build off....we will make the play offs...ive seen real growth etc etc......"wished I could sleep as well as Hook"

It's the same talk we get every year BSE. Then the season starts and all the weaknesses come to the fore before long. The preparation wasn't done where it was needed most - in the market.

Our strongest possible team is mediocre and then injuries will hit like with any team. Our young ones are still too green. Our forward pack can't string two decent performances together.

If we play finals it will be a miracle of miracles. It will revolve a lot around Sullivan and Sloan. We know what we will get from Hunt.

 

[redandwhite4evr]

Thanks Coffs. That ship had sailed well and truly from my memory bank unfortunately. It could then mean that Kristian's brother, Ben, could end up at the Dolphins as well in 2024 as he is only signed for this year with us.

Also...I don't often agree with Possm but he may well be on the money about a backroom deal already being in place to bring back Dean Young for 2024. The best thing about that deal, potentially, is that we open our flush coffers and offer a massive long-term (5+ years) deal to Jeremiah Nanai and Young influences him to accept.
Admittedly, lots of ifs and buts about that deal.

 

[denis preston]

Also...I don't often agree with Possm but he may well be on the money about a backroom deal already being in place to bring back Dean Young for 2024. The best thing about that deal, potentially, is that we open our flush coffers and offer a massive long-term (5+ years) deal to Jeremiah Nanai and Young influences him to accept.
Admittedly, lots of ifs and buts about that deal.

Yes Nanai for 5 and Young for 2 with a third our call if we have to take him back.

 

[dungay dragon]

Yes Nanai for 5 and Young for 2 with a third our call if we have to take him back.

Nanai would b the sweetener to get Deano back home for 24
the shit may hit the fan up north , if this were to be brokered mid season..

 

[OneEyedDragon]

Please! I'll admit that the "Young in 2024" rumour has all the ingredients of a great conspiracy theory rumour, but it really is just speculation. It fits into the category of "if you say something often enough then it must be true" (just ask Donald Trump). I'll believe it when something concrete is published.

 

[justadragon]

Nanai would b the sweetener to get Deano back home for 24
the shit may hit the fan up north , if this were to be brokered mid season..

If Hasler was still available I know who I'd be picking, Nanai or no Nanai !!!

 

[Saints Forever]

It’s somewhat early this year to say this yet again.

One out for 5 tackles then kick poorly is a recipe for disaster.

Sack Griffin and anyone that was partially responsible for his appointment as coach.

 

[dragon thomo]

Our forwards will be cannon fodder if we continue with a so called high completion boring style of football.
Wonder why our young players want to leave and also why we cannot attract players.

 

[SEAT 1A]

I'll wait till next.

 

[justadragon]

If we dont see something different in the CS, i'll be really pissed and it will be proven that our AC's were not the issue.

 

[Dragon David]

If we dont see something different in the CS, i'll be really pissed and it will be proven that our AC's were not the issue.

I think pre-season games including the Charity Shield should be about giving all the guys a run, have any set routines played out to see how effective they are, get the guys to hone their defensive and attacking skills and generally try to play attractive footy. A win would be good but that is not the be all and end all. We beat Souths last year in the Shield 16-10 and also gave them a walloping in June 32-12 in which we did play good solid footy but still didn't make the top 8.

Hook needs to let the guys play good open footy and not worry about the scoreboard and if it has a bearing on the result in our favour then just continue to do so in the comp.

We play the Titans in Round 2 and it is not a gimme.