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Sack mcgregor

Coffs dragon

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Nobody doubts that Mary is hardworking, but why waste that time when it's completely unproductive. As for CEO Brian Johnston, they need to send a search party out to find the invisible man.
So this Board meeting on Tuesday evening is simply Chinese Buffet night at the Crown Dragon at Saints Leagues. Get the trough ready!
 

Dragsters

First Grade
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I know it's the Roar but I thought I'd post this article for the fun of it.

Media drums are starting to beat...

Why Craig Bellamy should seriously consider coaching the Dragons

As the Dragons capitulate to another thumping, the calls for head coach Paul McGregor to leave are now almost unanimous.

This, however, leaves Dragons fans shifting approach from should McGregor go to the much more open-ended: who replaces him?

A valid question indeed, as not many coaches are on the market right now and those that are, Anthony Griffin, Geoff Toovey and Jason Taylor to name a few, are not names that inspire any significant hope.

Then there are always the calls for a new contender to be given their chance, with Craig Fitzgibbon and Jason Demetriou’s names coming up.

A choice with more risk but perhaps a higher reward threshold than the established options, this would seem possible as the Dragons have shown a penchant for giving new coaches their big break.

However, neither of those pathways looks especially promising for a fan-base that has long been known to bay for the coaches head rather quickly. Dragons fans expect excellence and sometimes this expectation is justified and sometimes it is misguided.

At this point in the joint venture’s history, the expectation of results is justified.

As highlighted in last week’s article, the Dragons boast a roster many would kill for, yet on game day they look like a reserve grade squad. They need a good coach to right the wrongs of the past and they need one now.

Enter Craig Bellamy.

As a match it is a perfect fit. Bellamy’s best qualities as a coach are getting his team to play to their potential and transitioning young players into fully-fledged first graders.

These are the two areas the Dragons desperately need help with, especially with a slew of promising youngsters who aren’t quite performing the way the club would like.

But how do the Dragons get Bellamy up to Wollongong? Firstly, it must be pointed out that it is not an unattractive offer for Bellamy. Much of the legwork has already been done in the club’s recruiting, unlike at a similarly coachless team in the Titans, they just need someone to make all the pieces fit.

If Bellamy wants to cement his position as an all-time great coach among the likes of Wayne Bennett and Jack Gibson, he still needs to win a premiership with more than one club, as those two before him have done.

That will no doubt be in his mind as he considers his next professional move and the Dragons could be the perfect route to immortal status.

The biggest hurdle would seemingly be extrapolating Craig Bellamy from Melbourne, as he just signed a new contract that would carry him through to 2021 and the southern club would no doubt fight ferociously to keep him.

This is where the Dragons board would need to be ruthlessly pragmatic. If recent reports of the club’s cash windfall are correct, St George leagues club has around $12 million in the bank and their new investors, WIN Corporation, are far from cash strapped.



To lure Bellamy out would eat up quite a lot of this money, as would the budgeting for the tax on spending over $5.93 million on support staff that comes into effect in 2020.

We know that clubs are willing to do this, as the Ivan Cleary situation last year proved, but no doubt snaring Bellamy away from Melbourne would be another level up.

That is where the Dragons have to decide what sort of club they will be for the next five to ten years.

Are they going to be satisfied with mediocre results with Mary? Hope that a new, but unproven, coach will be their savior? Or, will they dig deep and do everything they can to be winners?

The Dragons need Bellamy and Bellamy could use the Dragons. The Saints are as rich as they have likely ever been and their corporate partners will no doubt be willing to pay for success.

The only question is: will they have the courage to even attempt making an offer at Bellamy? Recent history would suggest not, but maybe the prayers of a few thousand Saints could change the fortune of the struggling club.


https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/07/...DMAZ6BAgKEBI&usg=AOvVaw3rYKd8talVmB4teNek5XuO
 

Dragsters

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Then this from the same mob...

The poisoned chalice: Coaching the Dragons


St George Illawarra lose again and by a convincing margin. Nothing new here, next sport story!

Sadly for proud and expectant Dragons fans, this is too common of a storyline.

Success has been as rare as hens teeth at Kogarah and Wollongong since the Wayne Bennett era. For Dragons fans, anything less than being a premiership threat will never be accepted.

St George fans demand success and will no doubt ask the club’s administration why it has accepted such lean returns in the past five or six years. Why has this once great club fallen so far considering the plethora of talent at its disposal?

A small part of the answer is that other NRL clubs have lifted their game and are operating in a far more sophisticated manner than they ever have before. The NRL standard of excellence has never been higher. The level of professionalism on the playing field and on the training field continues to evolve. Any club that does not evolve and adapt to these rising standards will perish.

Paul McGregor has had a solid career as an NRL coach, though at times through his tenure he has been unlucky. His win-loss record of 49 per cent is certainly not the worst in the NRL.

The man can coach. He has taken the Dragons to the top of the ladder, but the team found ways to not stay there.

McGregor’s win-loss record would be enough to get a contract extension at most clubs, but not at St George – not as far as their fans are concerned.

Therein lies the problem. The current culture at St George Illawarra and the expectations of their fan-base are poles apart.

Mediocrity will never be accepted by fans of the red V. The Dragons fan-base is the hardest in the NRL to keep happy. Being in charge of the St George Illawarra Dragons is a pressure cooker environment.

A blindfolded bat could see that extending the contract of a coach who has not taken the Dragons to the third or fourth week of a final series with such a talented player roster was a bad move by management. It was also perceived as an endorsement of a culture of mediocrity.

Dragons fans embrace mediocrity as much as Donald Trump embraces climate change.

If McGregor resigns or is sacked, whoever comes in to replace him will be stepping up to arguably the toughest coaching job in all of Australian sport.

There is one thing for sure. McGregor’s days at the helm at the Dragons are certainly numbered.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/07/20/the-poisoned-chalice-coaching-the-dragons/
 

getsmarty

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Took this from Rothfield's column.

The meeting TUESDAY WILL NOT discuss Mary.

ST George Illawarra’s board will meet on Tuesday to discuss the team’s dismal premiership campaign but chief executive Brian Johnston says coach Paul “Mary” McGregor’s position won’t be discussed.

Mary signed a two-year extension at the beginning of the year so there’s no heat at the moment,” Johnston said. “We’ve got to hang in and stay positive. Mary’s working 12 to 14 hours a day.

“No doubt, team performances will be a point of discussion but not the coach specifically.”


Pls dont build up hoppe that he will be gone, even if we spoon it.


Arrogant....Is all i can say...Fans need to vote with their feet....DON'T RENEW MEMBERSHIPS...BOYCOTT GAMES....they want to play hardball...then let them lose Money while they keep this incompetent coach employed............
 

grouch

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Took this from Rothfield's column.

The meeting TUESDAY WILL NOT discuss Mary.

ST George Illawarra’s board will meet on Tuesday to discuss the team’s dismal premiership campaign but chief executive Brian Johnston says coach Paul “Mary” McGregor’s position won’t be discussed.

Mary signed a two-year extension at the beginning of the year so there’s no heat at the moment,” Johnston said. “We’ve got to hang in and stay positive. Mary’s working 12 to 14 hours a day.

“No doubt, team performances will be a point of discussion but not the coach specifically.”


Pls dont build up hoppe that he will be gone, even if we spoon it.
This is encouragingly similar to a "full support of the board" type statement.
 

hewi

Bench
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They don’t get it, I have been to two games in two years I will not go again until things change. McGregor can be remembered as a great player who did the right thing by the club and quit before he was pushed or he will be sacked and that is what he will be remembered for. He is like a losing gambler full of excuses why he loses always going to be better next week but he can’t or won’t look in the mirror and see the problem looking back at him. I’ll say here and now Paul if you win a premiership or see out the next two years of your contract at the Dragons I’ll donate $1,000 to a charity of your choice.
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

First Grade
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The thing for me is that we've had a lot of disappointment under McGregor, but even when we were going 'good' I never really had full on belief in the team. And each time my feelings were confirmed by a massive let down. I struggle to think of many games where we put in a near perfect performance with him as coach, in all the many years he's been in charge, especially up against a great team in strong form. I challenge anyone to find one. The best win was that one in the semi last year, or the game where we smashed Melbourne with Aitken of all people running rings around them.

Truth is R&W's ................with the team we've had, we should of won a GF by now.
 

sa1nt5

Juniors
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The man can coach comment seems to be missing a “t” in the sentence.
The culture of the club and the expectation of the fans are not poles apart, they are one and the same we are the culture.
The club would be remiss to think that the fan base, from far and wide would not march down Crown st to the club and demand the board resignation en masse.
Not many of us are prepared to let go of our emotional investment in this proud and powerful jersey, even if certain elements within the organisation have never known what it is to feel such pride and connection to the degree that we Die hard Dragons faithful feel for our Jersey our Club our home. There is a line in the sand. Be sure.
The board should tread carefully, or they just might cross it !
Then this from the same mob...

The poisoned chalice: Coaching the Dragons


St George Illawarra lose again and by a convincing margin. Nothing new here, next sport story!

Sadly for proud and expectant Dragons fans, this is too common of a storyline.

Success has been as rare as hens teeth at Kogarah and Wollongong since the Wayne Bennett era. For Dragons fans, anything less than being a premiership threat will never be accepted.

St George fans demand success and will no doubt ask the club’s administration why it has accepted such lean returns in the past five or six years. Why has this once great club fallen so far considering the plethora of talent at its disposal?

A small part of the answer is that other NRL clubs have lifted their game and are operating in a far more sophisticated manner than they ever have before. The NRL standard of excellence has never been higher. The level of professionalism on the playing field and on the training field continues to evolve. Any club that does not evolve and adapt to these rising standards will perish.

Paul McGregor has had a solid career as an NRL coach, though at times through his tenure he has been unlucky. His win-loss record of 49 per cent is certainly not the worst in the NRL.

The man can coach. He has taken the Dragons to the top of the ladder, but the team found ways to not stay there.

McGregor’s win-loss record would be enough to get a contract extension at most clubs, but not at St George – not as far as their fans are concerned.

Therein lies the problem. The current culture at St George Illawarra and the expectations of their fan-base are poles apart.

Mediocrity will never be accepted by fans of the red V. The Dragons fan-base is the hardest in the NRL to keep happy. Being in charge of the St George Illawarra Dragons is a pressure cooker environment.

A blindfolded bat could see that extending the contract of a coach who has not taken the Dragons to the third or fourth week of a final series with such a talented player roster was a bad move by management. It was also perceived as an endorsement of a culture of mediocrity.

Dragons fans embrace mediocrity as much as Donald Trump embraces climate change.

If McGregor resigns or is sacked, whoever comes in to replace him will be stepping up to arguably the toughest coaching job in all of Australian sport.

There is one thing for sure. McGregor’s days at the helm at the Dragons are certainly numbered.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/07/20/the-poisoned-chalice-coaching-the-dragons/
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

First Grade
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They don’t get it, I have been to two games in two years I will not go again until things change. McGregor can be remembered as a great player who did the right thing by the club and quit before he was pushed or he will be sacked and that is what he will be remembered for. He is like a losing gambler full of excuses why he loses always going to be better next week but he can’t or won’t look in the mirror and see the problem looking back at him. I’ll say here and now Paul if you win a premiership or see out the next two years of your contract at the Dragons I’ll donate $1,000 to a charity of your choice.

I'm holding you to that, mate.

Please donate now................ 1800OKBforMARYappeal
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

First Grade
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5,415
Took this from Rothfield's column.

The meeting TUESDAY WILL NOT discuss Mary.

ST George Illawarra’s board will meet on Tuesday to discuss the team’s dismal premiership campaign but chief executive Brian Johnston says coach Paul “Mary” McGregor’s position won’t be discussed.

Mary signed a two-year extension at the beginning of the year so there’s no heat at the moment,” Johnston said. “We’ve got to hang in and stay positive. Mary’s working 12 to 14 hours a day.

“No doubt, team performances will be a point of discussion but not the coach specifically.”


Pls dont build up hoppe that he will be gone, even if we spoon it.

How do you dissect a teams performance over a year and not discuss the coach?
 

St Georgio

Juniors
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Ok guys I Despise the NRL, they are the purist muppets of all time, hey Floyd Mayweather is a Saint of boxers of all time, Mundine is the greatest 5/8 of all time, We have have the greatest Administration of all time (NRL), the Storm are without doubt the epitome of Rugby League Greatness, Roosters are the best players of all time, take two Nappa I salute studds, I c. Nt believe We have the greatest coach with very challenging play makers, we should join the special Olympics.
Please respect a very challenging Coach and PlayersPlayers
I feel extremely proud of St Merge!
 

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