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[The Silverdale Phantom]

Its the "go to club" at the moment, for sure.
I know a lot of people question the cap and third party deals, but unless there is evidence of rorting, you have to respect the culture they have built.

From CEO, coach, players, systems, etc they have turned around being a bog average club, with little membership and fan base , to being a powerhouse.

An example of their good management is that they saw massive promise and future success in Robbo long before even he did.

What it gets back to is smart people who understand a lot about the game making good decisions.

And it’s to their credit that they remain way ahead of the curb and right now are thinking about two or three seasons in front.

Most of us other clubs are fretting and troubled by the week ahead.

It would not be a bad idea than to poach some of their key decision making officials and embed them into the operations properly.

Their recruitment staff are otherworldly, they rarely err.

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

With all due respect Dragon David...Roosters reserve grade could beat most teams...How do you fit the England winger in reserve grade...along with both Morris boys signing as well as all the rest....

Yes they are a phenomenally coached side, but they also have without doubt the best 1st grade and reserve grade roster in the comp....

How is that possible ?

I think your skepticism about the Easts salary cap is understandable.
However don't under estimate how attractive it is for a player, either at the peak of his powers or, a developing prospect, to come to a well coached and well managed club.
Although we live in an era of money before glory, Easts have proven to be astute salary cap managers as well as a "best player" magnet.
Bottom line is that players come to Easts and sign deals that they would not typically sign at other clubs.
We on the other hand, have nothing to offer because McGregor has single handedly "de-skilled" a number of players that have moved on or are in our current squad.
What's also of deep concern is that even when we go after a player (Suli for example) and pay overs, we still lose out because after all is said and done, Money isn't everything.
I also know that Easts have been audited and found to be above board.
Whatever they are doing, it's working.
2 titles in a row and maybe a third very soon.
Hard to knock success.

 

[hazzbeen]

I think your skepticism about the Easts salary cap is understandable.
However don't under estimate how attractive it is for a player, either at the peak of his powers or, a developing prospect, to come to a well coached and well managed club.
Although we live in an era of money before glory, Easts have proven to be astute salary cap managers as well as a "best player" magnet.
Bottom line is that players come to Easts and sign deals that they would not typically sign at other clubs.
We on the other hand, have nothing to offer because McGregor has single handedly "de-skilled" a number of players that have moved on or are in our current squad.
What's also of deep concern is that even when we go after a player (Suli for example) and pay overs, we still lose out because after all is said and done, Money isn't everything.
I also know that Easts have been audited and found to be above board.
Whatever they are doing, it's working.
2 titles in a row and maybe a third very soon.
Hard to knock success.

Dennis its got to this , are our lot smart enough to make us a force again or are the just all happy to be mates and get their pay every week ..... I for one dont think they are smart enough .... Years before it happens ....

 

[Dragon David]

An example of their good management is that they saw massive promise and future success in Robbo long before even he did.

What it gets back to is smart people who understand a lot about the game making good decisions.

And it’s to their credit that they remain way ahead of the curb and right now are thinking about two or three seasons in front.

Most of us other clubs are fretting and troubled by the week ahead.

It would not be a bad idea than to poach some of their key decision making officials and embed them into the operations properly.

Their recruitment staff are otherworldly, they rarely err.

Great forward planning is the key to success. You can determine all of the pitfalls, pros and cons, revenue sources and availability, salary cap issues well ahead of time, better management arrangements around all players from lower grades to first grade, coaches needs, players to recruit/retain/release, to name a few. All good business models have workable business plans that look into the future of operations. The Roosters have got the personnel to do this I would imagine after their previous lean years. Uncle Nick being the chairman is making sure that this continues unabated.

Our Bigwigs, yes some might be wearing them being so old and stagnated in the boardroom, who you would think should be doing much similar things as the Roosters and other well to do clubs, don't appear to be doing so.

Success breeds success and when you have achieved this twice, you can rest assured that the triple treat will follow.

 

[Dragon David]

By the way, can someone let me know what has happened to LINESPEED?

 

[Dragon David]

I think your skepticism about the Easts salary cap is understandable.
However don't under estimate how attractive it is for a player, either at the peak of his powers or, a developing prospect, to come to a well coached and well managed club.
Although we live in an era of money before glory, Easts have proven to be astute salary cap managers as well as a "best player" magnet.
Bottom line is that players come to Easts and sign deals that they would not typically sign at other clubs.
We on the other hand, have nothing to offer because McGregor has single handedly "de-skilled" a number of players that have moved on or are in our current squad.
What's also of deep concern is that even when we go after a player (Suli for example) and pay overs, we still lose out because after all is said and done, Money isn't everything.
I also know that Easts have been audited and found to be above board.
Whatever they are doing, it's working.
2 titles in a row and maybe a third very soon.
Hard to knock success.

Well put Dennis. Our guys need to do some infiltrating to see how things are done at the Roosters. Maybe send someone for "work experience" and take good notes and photos.

 

[hazzbeen]

By the way, can someone let me know what has happened to LINESPEED?

Maybe got suspended for 6 months by the Mods as I was

 

[Dragsters]

Maybe got suspended for 6 months by the Mods as I was

I miss his poetic and prophetic prose...

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Well put Dennis. Our guys need to do some infiltrating to see how things are done at the Roosters. Maybe send someone for "work experience" and take good notes and photos.

The clubs have their operatives at many levels.

I am pretty sure everyone knows who is making the great decisions at Bondi and I am sure they know their services are highly valued. My view is that it’s a team effort and they are a pretty close bunch. Robbo would be in the inner circle for sure ( deservedly so) but he can’t hire himself!

It’s a bad example, but remember hoops talking about the spy who leaked to sgi that another club was chasing Mary last year?

If it’s true, it’s comforting for you blokes to know that someone somewhere is ratting on a club with whom they are closely associated with...and the news was on BJ’s desk by the morning. Or I think he got a call.

It was rumoured to be Parra, but I can offer no evidence.

A lot of mystery and intrigue goes on. Every now and then a journo will let us know a small and minute amount of the bigger picture.

I’ve heard of players being accosted on flights by coaches and being grilled about their “ private talks” with opposition clubs.

All in the game.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I miss his poetic and prophetic prose...

His sarcasm was legendary.

All he wanted was for Webby to champion the oppressed members and fans instead of following the party line.

I think at the moment, Webbys got the poison chalice. Nothing he can do personally at a meaningful level. He’s offered a few well disguised sympathetic lines here and there, but the moment he speaks out against his employers, he’s finished.

Looking at his career, this is a big opportunity for him and it’s one tough gig. It would be nice to know what his real thoughts are, but honesty is not as important as pr right now and the hole the club is digging for itself gets deeper and deeper.

When change comes, he’s a very good chance of being let go, because he will be associated with these bad old days you are experiencing.

 

[Warabrook saint]

Go Manly another couple of losses on the trot should just about do it ..... They won't be able to hide anymore , all avenues would have been exhausted in tying to keep Mary ....

That's exactly right ,they're trying every which way to keep the stinkin imposter

 

[Warabrook saint]

The money is also the clincher to the deal. It goes hand in hand with the idea that the player is joining a good club so he would be happy to play for them. Brett Morris has said that Easts are the best club he has been with and no doubt Josh is saying this as well. Forget about the Dragons, Bulldogs and Sharks they say! and I don't think they are on much moolah!

Maybe loaded lunchtime sandwich bags

 

[getsmarty]

Looks like titans may leapfrog us on the table........

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

The clubs have their operatives at many levels.

I am pretty sure everyone knows who is making the great decisions at Bondi and I am sure they know their services are highly valued. My view is that it’s a team effort and they are a pretty close bunch. Robbo would be in the inner circle for sure ( deservedly so) but he can’t hire himself!

It’s a bad example, but remember hoops talking about the spy who leaked to sgi that another club was chasing Mary last year?

If it’s true, it’s comforting for you blokes to know that someone somewhere is ratting on a club with whom they are closely associated with...and the news was on BJ’s desk by the morning. Or I think he got a call.

It was rumoured to be Parra, but I can offer no evidence.

A lot of mystery and intrigue goes on. Every now and then a journo will let us know a small and minute amount of the bigger picture.

I’ve heard of players being accosted on flights by coaches and being grilled about their “ private talks” with opposition clubs.

All in the game.

Which club would seriously look at McGregor.
He can't make a fairly decent roster such as ours perform. How could he go to another cellar dweller Team (only remote possibility of interest) and make a weaker roster perform?
Sounds like false news to force St. George to keep him.

 

[Dragon David]

Maybe got suspended for 6 months by the Mods as I was

What causes someone to be suspended by the Mods?

 

[Dragsters]

His sarcasm was legendary.

All he wanted was for Webby to champion the oppressed members and fans instead of following the party line.

I think at the moment, Webbys got the poison chalice. Nothing he can do personally at a meaningful level. He’s offered a few well disguised sympathetic lines here and there, but the moment he speaks out against his employers, he’s finished.

Looking at his career, this is a big opportunity for him and it’s one tough gig. It would be nice to know what his real thoughts are, but honesty is not as important as pr right now and the hole the club is digging for itself gets deeper and deeper.

When change comes, he’s a very good chance of being let go, because he will be associated with these bad old days you are experiencing.

All we can hope is that LINESPEED's sermons sink in enough for Webby exert the right type of bent on the decision making, in order to enact the change this very thread has so eloquently suggested, for what seems as long as Gone With The Wind and we all get what we know is critically needed.

A proper coach asap...

 

[Dragsters]

Maybe loaded lunchtime sandwich bags

...10k holes of golf anyone?

 

[Gareth67]

I want the imposter gone as much as you do mate but Seibold would be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire imo.

I do believe that he , Seibold is a capable coach he proved that in his short stay at the Rabbits , but he was also working with the backing of an astute organization at Souths - success oriented.

Should he ever make an appearance here at the Dragons ( which I very much doubt ) he would once again be like a fish out of water as he now is and has been from day 1 at Red Hill . They much prefer former Broncs from one field or another in their top echelons rather than an outsider such as Seibold .

Here in WIN county - a hell of a long way South of the border , he would not have too much off anything , least of all an open cheque book nor an all star playing group , therefore dooming him to mediocrity from the very beginning.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Which club would seriously look at McGregor.
He can't make a fairly decent roster such as ours perform. How we he go to another cellar dweller Team (only remote possibility of interest) and make a weaker roster perform?
Sounds like false news to force St. George to keep him.

Yeah, I pointed the finger at Marys manager and aligned phantom callers, but a moderator here edited me for alleged corruption.

It was more of a joke.

Spy: “ it’s Agent 99, Agent 99 from Bank West”

sgi intelligence: what?

Spy:“ The pink pig flys over the moonlight taj?

Sgi: ffs, someone wants to sign Mary? Are you drunk old mate?

Anyway, hoops reckons it’s true. It’s hit and miss with journos I know. But he swears by it.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I do believe that he , Seibold is a capable coach he proved that in his short stay at the Rabbits , but he was also working with the backing of an astute organization at Souths - success oriented.

Should he ever make an appearance here at the Dragons ( which I very much doubt ) he would once again be like a fish out of water as he now is and has been from day 1 at Red Hill . They much prefer former Broncs from one field or another in their top echelons rather than an outsider such as Seibold .

Here in WIN county - a hell of a long way South of the border , he would not have too much off anything , least of all an open cheque book nor an all star playing group , therefore dooming him to mediocrity from the very beginning.

I know a lot of people find it hard to believe, but I think you have the core of quite good players, if they can hit optimum. The trouble is that too many are down at once. Consistently playing down. Only McInness is consistently at his best. I blame Mary. Seibs lifted a bunnies team in decline, he might be able to lift your good players. De-maryfication.

The process has to begin.

The titans have a long long way to go, but at least they are improving under a new coach.

If your squad is 100, they might be 70 or under but they are looking upwards.

And the knights rise? Wtf, they are ripping in.

And the tigers, treading water- but unconvincing and we just can’t beat good sides. No coach seems to be able to help us. They leave for Penrith ffs. That’s just shameful!