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Now Barry, I know we've discussed this before, regarding all swans being white. Are you asking for evidence that Rome was built on any number of days other than one? You could refute hineyrulz' point simply by presenting evidence that Rome was indeed built in a day.

Well, I'd first need some evidence that Rome was built at all. That's an implicit assumption in the proposition.
 

phantom eel

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Looks like we're in the news again - special feature in Rupert's Rag... :roll:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/2fdf79d69b5f38c0eb440e9245daf6a0

Subscriber only, so I haven't read it. By "culture" I presume this is referring to the past - so Spags/3P era? The webpage splash pic is below:



Special investigation Eels’ culture of salary cap breaches


THE Parramatta Eels board and senior executives have overseen a culture of breaching salary cap rules by rewarding players’ third-party sponsors with corporate boxes, explosive internal documents suggest. Board minutes show there was active discussion at the highest levels of the club about providing rewards — most notably free and fully catered corporate hospitality — to the third parties.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Sounds like the same cap-dodging culture as the successful clubs. The main difference is we also have a culture of back-stabbing whistle blowers who hate each other.
 

Johnny88

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Its from March 2014, paper trail paying Hayne. Money after he left club. Something about giving 3rd party sponsors free corporate boxes. Some parra insider leaking papers. Must be a election on soon.
 

Johnny88

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THE Parramatta Eels board and senior executives have overseen a culture of breaching salary cap rules by rewarding players’ third-party sponsors with corporate boxes, explosive internal documents suggest.


Confidential board minutes from 2014 obtained by The Daily Telegraph show there was active discussion at the highest levels of the club about providing rewards — most notably free and fully catered corporate hospitality — to the third parties.

There are also revelations that tens of thousands of dollars in payments were made to departed star Jarryd Hayne by a Parramatta official last year, well after he left the club to join the San Francisco 49ers NFL team.

It is understood that corporate hospitality at the Eels’ home ground, Pirtek Stadium, is valued at up to $300 a head — meaning any third party given the benefit of this over the course of a season could reap a benefit worth thousands of dollars.

When The Telegraph put the allegations to Mr Sharp yesterday he said the minutes could have been “doctored”, before later appearing to back down on the claim.

Eels communications chief Josh Drayton later emailed a further comment: “The club denies these allegations show impropriety or wrongdoing in relation to the salary cap.”

The NRL’s official rules regarding salary cap on its website state: “Many players have third-party agreements that are outside the salary cap” but these must not “become a way for clubs or players to use sponsors or third parties to undermine the salary cap”.

The Eels have already paid a $465,000 fine for salary cap breaches in 2014 and ran the risk of having four points *deducted for the 2016 season unless governance was fixed.

A deal with the NRL on this matter is still being finalised.


The Telegraph has obtained documents detailing five separate bank transfers to Hayne from an unnamed Parramatta football club representative totalling $39,000, well after Hayne left the club.

The 2014 boardroom documents, which were signed by club chairman Steve Sharp, state “the importance of servicing TPA (Third Party Agreement) providers accordingly with hospitality and player appearances”.

Any legitimate third-party payments to players must be on an arm’s length basis from the club. It is a breach of the salary cap rules if a club makes a payment on behalf of the third parties or does a deal to compensate companies for a third-party contract.

Bank statements detail five payments were made between January 27 and February 26, 2015 by a Parramatta official into Hayne’s account, including three individual payments of $10,000.

The Daily Telegraph is not suggesting that Hayne has done anything wrong. An Eels spokesman had no comment.
 
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THE Parramatta Eels board and senior executives have overseen a culture of breaching salary cap rules by rewarding players? third-party sponsors with corporate boxes, explosive internal documents suggest.


Confidential board minutes from 2014 obtained by The Daily Telegraph show there was active discussion at the highest levels of the club about providing rewards ? most notably free and fully catered corporate hospitality ? to the third parties.

There are also revelations that tens of thousands of dollars in payments were made to departed star Jarryd Hayne by a Parramatta official last year, well after he left the club to join the San Francisco 49ers NFL team.

It is understood that corporate hospitality at the Eels? home ground, Pirtek Stadium, is valued at up to $300 a head ? meaning any third party given the benefit of this over the course of a season could reap a benefit worth thousands of dollars.

When The Telegraph put the allegations to Mr Sharp yesterday he said the minutes could have been ?doctored?, before later appearing to back down on the claim.

Eels communications chief Josh Drayton later emailed a further comment: ?The club denies these allegations show impropriety or wrongdoing in relation to the salary cap.?

The NRL?s official rules regarding salary cap on its website state: ?Many players have third-party agreements that are outside the salary cap? but these must not ?become a way for clubs or players to use sponsors or third parties to undermine the salary cap?.

The Eels have already paid a $465,000 fine for salary cap breaches in 2014 and ran the risk of having four points *deducted for the 2016 season unless governance was fixed.

A deal with the NRL on this matter is still being finalised.


The Telegraph has obtained documents detailing five separate bank transfers to Hayne from an unnamed Parramatta football club representative totalling $39,000, well after Hayne left the club.

The 2014 boardroom documents, which were signed by club chairman Steve Sharp, state ?the importance of servicing TPA (Third Party Agreement) providers accordingly with hospitality and player appearances?.

Any legitimate third-party payments to players must be on an arm?s length basis from the club. It is a breach of the salary cap rules if a club makes a payment on behalf of the third parties or does a deal to compensate companies for a third-party contract.

Bank statements detail five payments were made between January 27 and February 26, 2015 by a Parramatta official into Hayne?s account, including three individual payments of $10,000.

The Daily Telegraph is not suggesting that Hayne has done anything wrong. An Eels spokesman had no comment.

Oh my....
 
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Wow the plumber didn't manage to self report those details did he??? lol!!!
I must say someone's got it in for the plumber.

We are still in a mess. Let's hope that "good governance and other stuff" will eventually take place under new management. These idiots have got to go.
 

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:lol: The paid political advertisement above by Jake the Snake is brought to you by Koala Crescent Enterprises... home to the Spags mafia! ;-).
 

Poupou Escobar

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Wow the plumber didn't manage to self report those details did he??? lol!!!
I must say someone's got it in for the plumber.

We are still in a mess. Let's hope that "good governance and other stuff" will eventually take place under new management. These idiots have got to go.

Do you think we'll ever end up with a management that doesn't get stabbed in the back by rival factions?

Somebody is leaking this stuff and it isn't the people who don't want it leaked.
 

Johnny88

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Yeah nothing changes no matter who is on the board there are always issues. I think I'll just stick to the side on the field.
 
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:lol: The paid political advertisement above by Jake the Snake is brought to you by Koala Crescent Enterprises... home to the Spags mafia! ;-).

Here comes the cavalry..... Can't wait for you to explain this one as well. Or will you keep on playing the deflection game and blame everyone else but this incompetent excuse of a board.

How many chances are these morons going to get?
 
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Do you think we'll ever end up with a management that doesn't get stabbed in the back by rival factions?

Somebody is leaking this stuff and it isn't the people who don't want it leaked.

To answer your question....I'm hopeful!! But not under this current board.

The people leaking the stuff are people within the club. I wouldn't be surprised if the board is now fractured as it looks as though there's a whole lot of back stabbing going on.

I've never heard of a plumber that doesn't know how to stop the leaks...
 

Bigfella

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The comments attributed to Sharp are pretty amazingly stupid.

Agree though there is a targeted, and malicious leak seemingly designed to cause us salary cap strife.
 

Bigfella

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You don't think the successful clubs have creative ways to dodge the cap?

Yes, but it bears no resemblance to us.

We haven't been successful for thirty years.

And we haven't dodged shit. We've been comprehensively caught breaking the cap with seemingly nothing onfield during the currency of the breaches to show for it.

What the story also suggests, and the quoted comments tend to confirm, is that a succession of dumb f**kers have their snouts in the trough gifting over who gets to control various lurks perks and cash.

No wonder the sniping doesn't stop. It's a constant race to get control of the cash cow.
 
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You don't think the successful clubs have creative ways to dodge the cap?

yeh, but the difference is that if the club is, in fact, providing benefits to the providers of the TPAs, and those benefits are undisclosed or not on an arms length basis, then we've probably breached the cap rules. And put what is potentially a key part of the evidence in the board minutes.
 
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