Salary Cap

[MarkInTheStands]

So my question about the salary cap is.

Can the club in signing a player make part of his Remuneration corporate box tickets that the player can use to attract personal 3rd party sponsors ?

 

[emjaycee]

So my question about the salary cap is.

Can the club in signing a player make part of his Remuneration corporate box tickets that the player can use to attract personal 3rd party sponsors ?

You know the answer to that... as long as the value is included in the cap of course they can.

 

[phantom eel]

And from the player/manager's perspective, it would come down to whether or not their player shouldtake the cash value of the box as straight cash, or gamble on being able to "up-sell" the seats in the box and make a profit - beyond their contracted payment against the cap.

The Kieran Foran box might do alright in terms of profit beyond value/salary payment, but I can't see the Luke Kelly box having many takers at the moment...

 

[ash411]

Another of the plumbers apologists.... Must be plumbers power ranger time.

The plumber for the last 4 years has been prostituting himself to the media as it had suited his political agenda. Now, when there is actual legitimate questions to be answered he goes into hiding. He lets the COACH take the heat. What kind of leader is that?

Don't you find that a little hypocritical or cowardly?

When the media ambushed him at a training session? I wasn't aware that was a press conference..

Call me a power ranger if you want, I'm not sticking up for him, but there was no reason for him to be there, it was a training session ffs.

The problems we have at board level will continue until one of two things happen. 1) the faction leaders die. or 2) they all agree to walk away and leave the club in the hands of whomever ends up in charge after all this crap is done with.

Until one of those two things happen, the club is going to be under constant threat of media leaks and made up accusations of wrong-doing by who ever the current board is, regardless of who it is, because the rival factions aren't mad about who is in power specifically, they're mad that it isn't them. That's all they care about and they'll continue to attempt to destroy the club until they get their way.

If you think that bringing in an "Independent" board will fix any issues we have, you're living in a fantasy land. Your "anyone but Sharp" theory won't work, because if it is anyone other than DF or Spags, they will continue to work at destroying whoever is there in an attempt at getting back what they feel belongs to them.

It's the dark times for us I'm afraid, and we're in for more of it for the foreseeable future.

 

[phantom eel]

Despite Jake's protests, he'd have nothing to post about if the club factions disappeared and left us alone! Jake has been pro-Spags and very anti-Sharp from the get go. IMO either he's involved in one of the factions, or has bought into the media click-bait hype about "club in crisis".

I'm not convinced Jake actually wants the club issues solved, he just wants Sharp gone for some reason. Dirty that Sharpy scored the first try on Parra Stadium in 1986? Maybe Jake is a disgruntled member of our 1986 squad... maybe Terry Leabeater :lol:.

 

[Jake the snake]

When the media ambushed him at a training session? I wasn't aware that was a press conference..

Call me a power ranger if you want, I'm not sticking up for him, but there was no reason for him to be there, it was a training session ffs.

The problems we have at board level will continue until one of two things happen. 1) the faction leaders die. or 2) they all agree to walk away and leave the club in the hands of whomever ends up in charge after all this crap is done with.

Until one of those two things happen, the club is going to be under constant threat of media leaks and made up accusations of wrong-doing by who ever the current board is, regardless of who it is, because the rival factions aren't mad about who is in power specifically, they're mad that it isn't them. That's all they care about and they'll continue to attempt to destroy the club until they get their way.

If you think that bringing in an "Independent" board will fix any issues we have, you're living in a fantasy land. Your "anyone but Sharp" theory won't work, because if it is anyone other than DF or Spags, they will continue to work at destroying whoever is there in an attempt at getting back what they feel belongs to them.

It's the dark times for us I'm afraid, and we're in for more of it for the foreseeable future.

How is a board independent of factions living in a fantasy world?? IMO it's the only way and I haven't heard a better way yet. What is your solution then?

 

[Jake the snake]

Despite Jake's protests, he'd have nothing to post about if the club factions disappeared and left us alone! Jake has been pro-Spags and very anti-Sharp from the get go. IMO either he's involved in one of the factions, or has bought into the media click-bait hype about "club in crisis".

I'm not convinced Jake actually wants the club issues solved, he just wants Sharp gone for some reason. Dirty that Sharpy scored the first try on Parra Stadium in 1986? Maybe Jake is a disgruntled member of our 1986 squad... maybe Terry Leabeater :lol:.

:lol::lol: that's actually too hilarious to reply to Bart but I will try. But rich accusing me being Terry Leadbeater (whom I've never met in my life or spags for that matter) when you actually swing between Bartman / Phantom bitch.

 

[phantom eel]

How is a board independent of factions living in a fantasy world?? IMO it's the only way and I haven't heard a better way yet. What is your solution then?

Sigh... because an indepedent board would still be undermined by the factiosn that aren't in power - just like our current voard is being undermined by your heroes who aren't in power.

It's not about whether Sharp's doing a good job, or about getting rid of Sharp and things magically improving... it's about how an independent board can be immune to the same influences that are undermining Sharp's board from the outside.

It is a fantasy, unless you can outline how an independent board will suddenly be left alone by Fitzy and Spags... the only way they'll rest is if they die, or if those f**kers are actually appointed to the independent board :crazy:

I reckon leave the current board as is, start to get independent appointees added to it (and replacing any resignations), and get us to the point where we're more than 50% independent NRL-appointed before we have our next election for the remainder of positions.

If there is no 50+% "control" available to Spags or Fitzy, the factions, election chaos and destabilising will disappear, becuase there will no longer be any "prize" for the sad merkins....

 

[phantom eel]

:lol::lol: that's actually too hilarious to reply to Bart but I will try. But rich accusing me being Terry Leadbeater (whom I've never met in my life or spags for that matter) when you actually swing between Bartman / Phantom bitch.

That's why my post had a laughing emoticon at the end, genius! At least Bartman or the Phantom don't have an agenda to destabilise our current Board...

 

[Jake the snake]

Sigh... because an indepedent board would still be undermined by the factiosn that aren't in power - just like our current voard is being undermined by your heroes who aren't in power.

It's not about whether Sharp's doing a good job, or about getting rid of Sharp and things magically improving... it's about how an independent board can be immune to the same influences that are undermining Sharp's board from the outside.

It is a fantasy, unless you can outline how an independent board will suddenly be left alone by Fitzy and Spags... the only way they'll rest is if they die, or if those f**kers are actually appointed to the independent board :crazy:

I reckon leave the current board as is, start to get independent appointees added to it (and replacing any resignations), and get us to the point where we're more than 50% independent NRL-appointed before we have our next election for the remainder of positions.

If there is no 50+% "control" available to Spags or Fitzy, the factions, election chaos and destabilising will disappear, becuase there will no longer be any "prize" for the sad merkins....

I totally disagree anybody on this board that oversaw and did nothing regarding salary cap cheating should go. A new independent board Locked in for a long period of time say 5 years, should see the factions go away or die off. By then real governance changes would have been implemented for future elections.

 

[Jake the snake]

That's why my post had a laughing emoticon at the end, genius! At least Bartman or the Phantom don't have an agenda to destabilise our current Board...

And how is Bartman these days?? Just curious as to when your split personality will bring him out again :?

 

[phantom eel]

Split personality, hey? I'm still amused how much having different logins on different devices bothers people, even though no-one cared for a few years beforehand :lol:.

 

[Jake the snake]

So my question about the salary cap is.

Can the club in signing a player make part of his Remuneration corporate box tickets that the player can use to attract personal 3rd party sponsors ?

IMO, I don't think so and that's because at the moment the club and the company sponsoring the TPA can't be linked.

 

[Jake the snake]

Split personality, hey? I'm still amused how much having different logins on different devices bothers people, even though no-one cared for a few years beforehand :lol:.

You've never reallly denied being Bartman ... Just sayin.

 

[ash411]

I totally disagree anybody on this board that oversaw and did nothing regarding salary cap cheating should go. A new independent board Locked in for a long period of time say 5 years, should see the factions go away or die off. By then real governance changes would have been implemented for future elections.

That will never happen. You honestly think Fitz and spags, etc will die in 5 years? do you know something we don't?

They won't roll over either. You could give this "Independent" board a 10 year term and they will still be chipping away trying to get them fired or forced to resign just like they are doing right now. The extended office terms that were put in when the current board came in were put in place for this exact reason, and it's worked great hasn't it? DF and Spags aren't doing anything to destabilse the club or remove the current board are they? They just gave up and went away..

Oh, I should add, I don't have a better solution. If I knew the first thing about running an NRL team I'd stand for office myself. But I don't, so I'm not going to throw out theories based on stuff I know nothing about. I don't know the answers, what ever it takes to get rid of the in fighting and faction rabble is what we need, what ever that is.

 

[Basil Brush]

If it a decision between the board having to go and the deduction of 4 points, the board has to go. No idea who to replace them with though.

Not sure if Jake the Fake will like whoever gets in

 

[woddy]

If it a decision between the board having to go and the deduction of 4 points, the board has to go. No idea who to replace them with though.

Not sure if Jake the Fake will like whoever gets in

Looks like Jake and co will have to wait ..FFS this club shits me personal agendas over club everytime .. Kents

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/e8f50b6a16de68d60840f1f89a0f2df1

 

[Delboy]

So let's think, the board stands down, who gets the gig

Can't be Spags as he can't hold office, the Emperor rides in on his white horse with the support of radio jock, does anyone think that whoever is doing this stuff will stop, no. It will continue because the hate is still there. These guys are such Pelicans that it will continue

Probably isn't helped by ex officers happy to leak stuff as well

This board has been quite amateurish when it comes to talking to the press, but they have certainly set the club up with a booming and improving leagues club, new training facilities and support staff. The press stuff ups possibly comes from being bombarded by nutters like Slothfield, Danny Weedkiller, Adrian and Massoud - giving them any response will always be twisted

Certainly there are areas around membership and ticketing which needs work ( the person next to me was offered a family ticket , which was unexpectedly 2 seats and 2 seats not together), which was not explained and he did not know until he received the season tickets.

Looking at the response from John Boulos, that appears the ideal response, and from the NRL they haven't mentioned anything other than the need to examine all clubs TPAs.

Jake will come on and say we are all apologists, he reminds me of the old bloke sitting on the verandah outside the general store in a country town, muttering " I never liked him, I will make sure he suffers etc etc.. We all want what's best do the club and if that means a change so be it, but those in charge have been white anted from the get go, with the majority of problems taking place before they fully took charge, and whilst some things could have been handled better- they were under fire for anything from the get go by those that still crave power and control

 

[woddy]

The board aren't standing down / falling on swords they're staying FFS

Eels bosses prepared to risk loss of competition points rather than fall on their own swords

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/e8f50b6a16de68d60840f1f89a0f2df1

 

[eels_fan]

Yep.. Heaps of quotes in that article to back up the headline.. Not.