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Sandow is leaving souths....just announced on 2ky

Casper The Ghost

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I am staying with Souths .. Till the end of the season...
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Inevitably, that's where you'll be staying

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Eels Dude

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Or sign a new player or two for the remainder of this season and do likewise: use this years cap to front load their contracts and pay the balance of the contract out over the following years.

You can only do that when re-signing current players... not new ones.
 

Casper The Ghost

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Ok, so...

...we FINALLY have a halfback. A REAL halfback.

Hot Damn!

All we need now is an established three-quarter and we're set. Move HaHa to 6 and put Burt to the back. Drop both Morts and Robson.

Beau Champion and Will Hopate, come on down!

And Adam Blair - we need a strike backrower/lock who can break the line.
 

Casper The Ghost

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I happen to know pretty close to what Sandow has signed for, and 550k is not it. And we have 3rd party agreements in place as well, so at most only 350k is actually going to come off the cap. So we still have plenty to spend. Expect a play for a fullback soon as Hayne will move to 6 next year to compliment Sandow.

Great to hear $350k + 3rd party deals :clap::clap:

Hayne to 6 - is Hayne keen to do this, is he amenable?
This is also great news if Jarryd is willing to do this.
Will be the next great 6 after Wally Lewis, Brett Kenny, Brad Fittler & Darren Lockyer.
May even turn out to be the greatest of them all.
 
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Casper The Ghost

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You can only do that when re-signing current players... not new ones.

Are you saying a new player agreeing to play for $1mill over 3 years
can't be paid like this?
1st year $600k
2nd year $250k
3rd year $150k

A new player agreeing to the above contract has also agreed to start playing for the Eels as of next week for the remainder of this season for $300k - that's this year + the next 3 years.

Are you saying that we can't use the spare cap $$$$ for this year to pay him the $300k for playing the remainder of this season?
 
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Eels Dude

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Are you saying a new player agreeing to play for $1mill over 3 years
can't be paid like this?
1st year $600k
2nd year $250k
3rd year $150k

A new player agreeing to the above contract has also agreed to start playing for the Eels as of next week for the remainder of this season for $300k - that's this year + the next 3 years.

Are you saying that we can't use the spare cap $$$$ for this year to pay him the $300k for playing the remainder of this season?

I thought you were suggesting paying say Sandow, his 2012 salary in 2010. My mistake.
 

Casper The Ghost

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From what I just read Osborne has not denied Eels paid 550k. All he said was "We've think we've got him at a reasonable price". Clever wording but if it wasn't 550k he would've straight out denied it. Crowe would know what he was offered cause Souths would've had the chance to match it.

Without quickly getting rid of contracted players the Eels knew Crowe & Richardson did not have the cap room to compete for Sandow's signature. If they went past $275k or thereabouts per year the Eels knew the NRL would be alerted and Ian Schubert and his boys would be investigating Souths books "in great detail". From trusted sources inside the Eels club/network Sandow accepted $350k + 3rd party deals per year x 4 years.

All that has happened is Sandow is now getting around $200k extra per year starting next year. He took the $$$$ because he has 3 kids, partner & extended family to care for.

Good on him and good on us.
 

MrT

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Sandow loss Souths' own fault: Merritt




Star South Sydney winger Nathan Merritt has questioned why the club didn't make a serious play to lock up Chris Sandow, with the in-form halfback confirming a four-year deal with Parramatta on Wednesday thought to be worth $1.6 million.
While Rabbitohs hierarchy announced Sandow's departure early on Wednesday highlighting the amount of money the Eels were offering, Merritt suggested Souths officials only had themselves to blame.
"Definitely. They (Souths officials) should have jumped in early and tried to secure his signature earlier," said Merritt from City NSW Origin camp.
"It's probably their fault for not jumping in early enough.
"I think Souths were a bit worried if he was up to standard but he's shown over the last month that he can do the job."
Parramatta chief executive Paul Osborne had pushed that line earlier in the day, suggesting Souths didn't seem particularly interested in his services.
"We were a little surprised that one of the reasons we managed to get Chris here was there was probably a feeling from him that there wasn't a lot of interest from Souths, which we found intriguing," he said.
The Rabbitohs had come out all guns blazing on Wednesday morning, with Russell Crowe tweeting his disappointment and CEO Shane Richardson issuing a cryptic press release before most Souths fans had finished breakfast.
Crowe tweeted that Parramatta had offered Sandow $550,000 a season, while Richardson had a subtle dig at Parramatta and his halfback's motives by saying: "Unfortunately for us he has met his Alan Bond."
Osborne hit back at Crowe's decision to reveal the figure, saying Parramatta's offer was "reasonable", and denied he was rugby league's version of the failed business tycoon.
"I might look like Alan Bond, but I don't feel like him, no," said Osborne, who claimed Sandow's "magical" form of late justified the Eels' interest.
"I'm not going to comment on individual amounts and we won't do that now or at any time."
Osborne said Sandow had every right to feel hurt.
"I would be disappointed if I was a player ... it was a tough decision for Chris, there's no doubt about it," he said.
"Those people who were involved probably need to have a good look at themselves."
The dynamic No.7 said he had to think of his young family.
"No, it's not about the cash, I just want a new journey, new start for my life," Sandow said.
"I appreciate Souths for giving me the opportunity to play NRL.
"Heaps of people have been talking to me about not leaving Souths but I have to do what's best for me and I have three little kids now so I have to look after them before me."
Sandow denied he'd fallen out with Crowe over the move.
"He's going to be upset but ... he said if I go ahead and go to Parramatta he said he'll still be my mate ... and it's my choice."
It's not the first time Souths have earned the ire of rivals when it comes to contract negotiations.
Back in 2007, the Rabbitohs paraded Craig Wing at a press conference despite him still being under contract with the Sydney Roosters.

http://nrl.com/sandow-loss-souths-own-fault-merritt/tabid/10874/newsid/62613/default.aspx
 

Casper The Ghost

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I thought you were suggesting paying say Sandow, his 2012 salary in 2010. My mistake.

It's ok, the fact we scrutinise to be sure of communicating our intent is what matters. Have a lot of respect for you not descending into slanging matches and character assassinations, etc... over misunderstandings.
 

yy_cheng

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I happen to know pretty close to what Sandow has signed for, and 550k is not it. And we have 3rd party agreements in place as well, so at most only 350k is actually going to come off the cap. So we still have plenty to spend. Expect a play for a fullback soon as Hayne will move to 6 next year to compliment Sandow.

I really hope so and if Hayne is to move to 6 next year, why not give him practice this year?
 

Casper The Ghost

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He's still in his early 20s. Give the kid a break.

That said, he looks like he started finding some consistency late last year and this year he's been very good. He looks consistent to me.

The top players are on $700k or more including third party deals. Sandow could be up there with them (for quality) as early as this season - he really has that much ability. Imagine how he'll go when Kearney gets the bullshit out of his game.

:shock::shock::shock: how, following him around wiping his ass!
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Casper The Ghost

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Too long a deal, too much money...

Off the cuff player with little direction or strategic game play.

150-200k a year player tops.

Our recruitment is the pits.

Can't you recognise a Sandowman when you see one?

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Please return to Hindyscrack to be a permanent stain on one of his krusty undies.
 

Hindyscrack

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ok, so you'd prefer Robson? fair enough each to their own..


Nope, why Robson was given a new contract in 09 is beyond me. Could we not have signed Kingston at the same time if we didn’t given Robbo a new contract?

I just think that the money spent on sandow is massive over’s for a guy with too many chinks in his armour. Four years is a long time to be holding onto that contract when he doesn’t produce.

I’m happy to stand by my assessment.
 

Eels Dude

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Nope, why Robson was given a new contract in 09 is beyond me. Could we not have signed Kingston at the same time if we didn’t given Robbo a new contract?

I just think that the money spent on sandow is massive over’s for a guy with too many chinks in his armour. Four years is a long time to be holding onto that contract when he doesn’t produce.

I’m happy to stand by my assessment.

We made the grand final, that's why. And KK would cost us 120k under the salary cap due to the NRL's match payments rule, even though he was willing to sign for less.
 

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