butchmcdick
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well wait till after the WC next year, when everyone leaves, however it happeneds all the time, just in small numbers, rather than after WC when everyone leaves in recent times we've lost
rudi wulf
anthony tuitavake
tamati ellison
tim bateman
Jason Shoemark(leaving in couple of months)
all to OS, so there is the 'middle men' all centres gone overseas, and now we have young players coming thru the ranks
with conrad and ma'a occupying
theres
luke mcalister
SBW
Fruen
benson stanley
rene ranger
Kahui
all playing for centre spots in all blacks, after the WC, i expect conrad and ma'a to leave, luke Mcalister to leave
maybe to leave
bensen, SBW and ranger,
but if they are smart about it, they'd stay, coz all the good centres (and this will be helped if NZ win the WC), will go OS eventually and they are more chance of a starting spot, the longer they grind it out
In saying that, there are some good centres coming up, with the likes of Jayden Hayward of Naki, Stanley Brothers, Fruen, ryan crotty, charlie ngtai, shaun treeby to name a few and this is helped if NZ keeps winning the U20's WC,
plus, its not like, OS offers millions of dollars to every single player in NZ ITM cup that cant make the All Blacks, the lowest contract in ITM cup is about 80,000 for a starting player, when they make a S14 contract this goes up, so its not like they r on the mimimum wage in NZ and if they go OS they will be paid millions, OS they might get couple of hundred thousand a season at most, but the quality of rugby can be lower most of the time, and they are away from family, friends, so its not like OS is the best thing for you personally or your career, its just about the money.
SO in conclusion, centres (to narrow it down) will always leave NZ if they cant crack All Blacks, as seen by those named above, however the production line in NZ is so good, that theres always numerous players to fill that void. After WC's theres always a drain, but theres a strong number of capable centres to step in should conrad and Ma'a leave.
hope it answers your question
Out of interest are there many young (under 20's) fringe players who head overseas to Europe and chase the cash instead of staying in NZ and grinding it out hoping to make the Blacks eventually ? Have you lost any potential stars to the lure of the cash on offer elsewhere ?
If not surely it can't be too far off, I get that you are away from friends and family and the standard of rugby isn't as good but gee how long before a club ( Say a french one) attempts to sign a 19 yo with a massive offer. Money talks and when you convert pounds to the Kiwi Dollar it would have to be enough to make you think twice.