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snout

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well
You didn’t have to ask if I was a vegan
Why did you?
Veganism had nothing to do with my actual post.
I basically pre-emoted the next question you’d write if I didn’t try to cover everything


To answer your last question
Some people are vegans Based on health reasons.
They may love meat but can’t eat it.
I know a girl like this.

some just think it’s cool
You know teenage girls and shit.

some claim they are appalled by the thought of eating meat.
They’re the ones I find hypocritical for eating meat flavoured substitutes.
Think youre talking about vegetarians there.
Vegans are the ones who dont wear leather belts or shoes because it's an animal by-product or live in houses because an eco-system was destroyed to build it.

Oh hang on..
 

Quicksilver

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Crap.The very concern about providing substantial sums of money to help people who may do extreme things after losing their jobs ,is an example of his concern about his fellow man.Things like domestic violence, the Black Dog.He is not sprouting his Christianity FFS at all.

Not once in any of his media pandemic announcements, has he brought it up.If you are going to tell porkies, work for News Ltd.

If someone has managed to turn their life around and are now a contributing member of society why should we deport them? They've already served their time and followed the rules as they were at the time.

Seems incredibly spiteful and not particularly productive either.

So his deep Christianity (which he would admit to) is just something he can turn on and off when it doesn't suit? Ok, good to know.
 

carcharias

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Think youre talking about vegetarians there.
Vegans are the ones who dont wear leather belts or shoes because it's an animal by-product or live in houses because an eco-system was destroyed to build it.

Oh hang on..

yep
I did notice he’d called it vegan.
I just couldn’t have been f**ked correcting him on that too.
 

Quicksilver

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yep
I did notice he’d called it vegan.
I just couldn’t have been f**ked correcting him on that too.

Well, all I did was ask if you were a vegan, so I'm not sure how I can be corrected on that point. However, you could have clarified your answer if you liked.

Here is what it says about veganism in Wiki:

Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals. A follower of the diet or the philosophy is known as a vegan.[c] Distinctions may be made between several categories of veganism. Dietary vegans (also known as "strict vegetarians") refrain from consuming meat, eggs, dairy products, and any other animal-derived substances.[d] An ethical vegan (also known as a "moral vegetarian") is someone who not only follows a vegan diet but extends the philosophy into other areas of their lives, and opposes the use of animals for any purpose.[e] Another term is "environmental veganism", which refers to the avoidance of animal products on the premise that the industrial farming of animals is environmentally damaging and unsustainable.[21]

With time I could probably find a better sauce (meat flavoured but derived from plant products, of course)
 

carcharias

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Well, all I did was ask if you were a vegan, so I'm not sure how I can be corrected on that point. However, you could have clarified your answer if you liked.

Here is what it says about veganism in Wiki:

Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals. A follower of the diet or the philosophy is known as a vegan.[c] Distinctions may be made between several categories of veganism. Dietary vegans (also known as "strict vegetarians") refrain from consuming meat, eggs, dairy products, and any other animal-derived substances.[d] An ethical vegan (also known as a "moral vegetarian") is someone who not only follows a vegan diet but extends the philosophy into other areas of their lives, and opposes the use of animals for any purpose.[e] Another term is "environmental veganism", which refers to the avoidance of animal products on the premise that the industrial farming of animals is environmentally damaging and unsustainable.[21]

With time I could probably find a better sauce (meat flavoured but derived from plant products, of course)

seeings as how you were going on about eating meat I figured you meant vego.
Although vegan also don’t eat meat.
So it covered both.
 

taipan

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If someone has managed to turn their life around and are now a contributing member of society why should we deport them? They've already served their time and followed the rules as they were at the time.

Seems incredibly spiteful and not particularly productive either.

So his deep Christianity (which he would admit to) is just something he can turn on and off when it doesn't suit? Ok, good to know.

That's a Govt rule, not ScoMos.

People in jail turn their lives around and they as Australian citizens are applauded for it.
Else you may as well have open borders and let any loon form overseas come in.If you commit a crime in an overseas country, are jailed and become a good guy, you still get flicked after the sentence has expired.

Who said he turns it on and off at will, just because you say so.
Does he keep banging on about his Christianity? Not once have I heard it in any of these interviews.
Does he say he's better than anyone else?
Does he have a beer with people in pubs and clubs?
Is he providing substantial sums to charities to help the needy ,when jobs are lost?
You really need to do some research mate.
As any politician would or should , they have to weigh the needs and safety of their own citizens firstly, before an influx of overseas people wanting to live here with or without visas.

He doesn't do a Rudd and keep getting interviewed going to Church.
 

Quicksilver

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That's a Govt rule, not ScoMos.

People in jail turn their lives around and they as Australian citizens are applauded for it.
Else you may as well have open borders and let any loon form overseas come in.If you commit a crime in an overseas country, are jailed and become a good guy, you still get flicked after the sentence has expired.

Who said he turns it on and off at will, just because you say so.
Does he keep banging on about his Christianity? Not once have I heard it in any of these interviews.
Does he say he's better than anyone else?
Does he have a beer with people in pubs and clubs?
Is he providing substantial sums to charities to help the needy ,when jobs are lost?
You really need to do some research mate.
As any politician would or should , they have to weigh the needs and safety of their own citizens firstly, before an influx of overseas people wanting to live here with or without visas.

He doesn't do a Rudd and keep getting interviewed going to Church.

What harm is someone that has been quietly living their life here for years? People who did bad things many moons ago, were punished but turned it around? Tearing them away from their community and family.

He has stood up in church and spoken about his Christianity himself.

But nah, keep it in your back pocket. Don't act in a Christian way, just use it as a chance to preach to a group for political gain. That doesn't seem very "Christian" to me. His actions need to be examined, as well as his rhetoric.
 

carcharias

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What harm is someone that has been quietly living their life here for years? People who did bad things many moons ago, were punished but turned it around? Tearing them away from their community and family.

He has stood up in church and spoken about his Christianity himself.

But nah, keep it in your back pocket. Don't act in a Christian way, just use it as a chance to preach to a group for political gain. That doesn't seem very "Christian" to me. His actions need to be examined, as well as his rhetoric.

funny ...you don’t like a poly that keeps his promise.
 

Quicksilver

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funny ...you don’t like a poly that keeps his promise.

Well, that depends.

I want them to have genuine conviction, but I don't want them to be so rigid that they can't move given new information and changing circumstances. When they do change, I want them to give reason for their new thinking with more than just a political slogan.

For instance, I've spoken out about the upcoming Liberal debt and deficit disaster. I am curious as to how they can justify this as being ok when it wasn't ok after the last financial crisis. This debt will be much bigger and we will only have the same mechanisms in place to pay it back.

This is talking from their own paradigm.

Do we need a totally new economic system now? If so it needs to be outlined.
 

Eion

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Well, that depends.

I want them to have genuine conviction, but I don't want them to be so rigid that they can't move given new information and changing circumstances. When they do change, I want them to give reason for their new thinking with more than just a political slogan.

For instance, I've spoken out about the upcoming Liberal debt and deficit disaster. I am curious as to how they can justify this as being ok when it wasn't ok after the last financial crisis. This debt will be much bigger and we will only have the same mechanisms in place to pay it back.

This is talking from their own paradigm.

Do we need a totally new economic system now? If so it needs to be outlined.
I think they’ve been pretty clear about the justification for the spending. It’s an unprecedented in living memory response to an economic, health and social disaster. All due respect to the GFC but that was tiddlywinks in comparison.

I’m sure they’re worried about how to pay it all back but needs must and all that. I’m pretty confident they won’t chuck out the economic system though.
 

taipan

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What harm is someone that has been quietly living their life here for years? People who did bad things many moons ago, were punished but turned it around? Tearing them away from their community and family.

He has stood up in church and spoken about his Christianity himself.

But nah, keep it in your back pocket. Don't act in a Christian way, just use it as a chance to preach to a group for political gain. That doesn't seem very "Christian" to me. His actions need to be examined, as well as his rhetoric.


I just stated people turn their lives around.
But people who come here unannounced or not bothered being naturalised and abuse the privilege ,by committing a crime here, lose their welcoming mat.Regardless of the, I'm a good boy now routine.

Well if you stand up in Church to say something about your beliefs, it's hardly a scoop.It's like discussing football at a football club AGM.

What a load of bollock,.he doesn't preach at his press or media interviews, in fact he talks more about football and the blue black and whites.Don't let your agenda driven hatred of the guy ,get in the way of facts.I think you comments need to be examined ,because one can shoot holes through them.
 

Quicksilver

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I think they’ve been pretty clear about the justification for the spending. It’s an unprecedented in living memory response to an economic, health and social disaster. All due respect to the GFC but that was tiddlywinks in comparison.

I’m sure they’re worried about how to pay it all back but needs must and all that. I’m pretty confident they won’t chuck out the economic system though.

It's the ramifications for the action though. How can this be ok when a smaller debt (even though it was still the biggest crisis since The Great Depression) was not?

If we couldn't pay that back, then how do we pay this back? like how? How does that mechanically work?

You can jump off a 20 storey building because someone is going to shoot you. That's probably justified, but you're still going to hit the ground and die.

So given their reaction to the last crisis, they can't just hand out money and forget about it. There is a fundamental inconsistency. And it's not a small blind-spot or something. It's a gaping hole. They need to re-examine their core philosophies and the economic system itself.

I await Somoconomics. Maybe what he presents will be better than what we have.
 

Quicksilver

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I just stated people turn their lives around.
But people who come here unannounced or not bothered being naturalised and abuse the privilege ,by committing a crime here, lose their welcoming mat.Regardless of the, I'm a good boy now routine.

Well if you stand up in Church to say something about your beliefs, it's hardly a scoop.It's like discussing football at a football club AGM.

What a load of bollock,.he doesn't preach at his press or media interviews, in fact he talks more about football and the blue black and whites.Don't let your agenda driven hatred of the guy ,get in the way of facts.I think you comments need to be examined ,because one can shoot holes through them.

He preaches to his church about his Christain beliefs and then does not act upon them. I'd be pissed if I went to his church. Just as I'd be pissed if he came to Shark Park with a Cronulla scarf and then wore a St George scarf into parliament.
 

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