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Scomo saving me

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cool.

imagine if you stopped off at the rub and tug though. Or even something seemingly harmless like the TAB.

Then 10 years later someone brings up that info, threatens to leak it to your wife. Then you are in a situation where you are easily compromised.

What if you own a business and you have trade secrets that can be obtained from knowing your exact movements?

What if you go to a gay bar and you’re just not comfortable with government knowing that?

what if you’re sick and you are receiving treatment you want to keep secret?

What if you just don’t like people?
yeah Hows Scomo beliefs regarding gays? What does he think about guitar playing surfers?
 

Eion

First Grade
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You can tell from your phone now where you’ve been. Has there been a single documented case of any Aussie government abusing the info? Genuine question.

In any event if you’re dodgy, don’t download it. If you’re going to a gay bar (which aren’t open...I’ve checked) leave your phone at home.
 

carcharias

Immortal
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cool.

imagine if you stopped off at the rub and tug though. Or even something seemingly harmless like the TAB.

Then 10 years later someone brings up that info, threatens to leak it to your wife. Then you are in a situation where you are easily compromised.

What if you own a business and you have trade secrets that can be obtained from knowing your exact movements?

What if you go to a gay bar and you’re just not comfortable with government knowing that?

what if you’re sick and you are receiving treatment you want to keep secret?

What if you just don’t like people?
You’re right.
I can just imagine if I wake up with amnesia .. ...and I’m on some sort of Russian fishing boat.
Somehow I can speak fluent Russian.
All I have on me is a phone and a receipt and key to a storage locker in the New York subway.
After the fisherman let me off the boat in Manhattan I steal and hot wire a small Euro hatch back..
Skills I was unaware I possessed.
Then suddenly I’m being chased by Scomo’s henchmen.
Before I can even think , I’m driving flat stick backwards down narrow alley ways.
I’m driving like a sick merkin.
I’ve even managed to pick up some hot single chick who obviously is keen to believe my amnesia story.

next thing I manage to get get to the subway but am surrounded by 10 Lib politicians.
I use my mad kung fu skills to beat the f**ken shit out of them all.
I’m not surprised though.
I get to the locker and find 5k in cash , 7 new passports with different aliases and business card with the word Treadstone on it.

unfortunately the gigs up and I’m surrounded by 100 cops with big guns.

Damn
If I hadn’t gone to the TAB in April
2020 I would’ve got away.
 
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You’re right.
I can just imagine if I wake up with amnesia .. ...and I’m on some sort of Russian fishing boat.
Somehow I can speak fluent Russian.
All I have on me is a phone and a receipt and key to a storage locker in the New York subway.
After the fisherman let me off the boat in Manhattan I steal and hot wire a small Euro hatch back..
Skills I was unaware I possessed.
Then suddenly I’m being chased by Scomo’s henchmen.
Before I can even think , I’m driving flat stick backwards down narrow alley ways.
I’m driving like a sick merkin.
I’ve even managed to pick up some hot single chick who obviously is keen to believe my amnesia story.

next thing I manage to get get to the subway but am surrounded by 10 Lib politicians.
I use my mad kung fu skills to beat the f**ken shit out of them all.
I’m not surprised though.
I get to the locker and find 5k in cash , 7 new passports with different aliases and business card with the word Treadstone on it.

unfortunately the gigs up and I’m surrounded by 100 cops with big guns.

Damn
If I hadn’t gone to the TAB in April
2020 I would’ve got away.
Should have stuck to the trip to never never land to fight captain hook! Scomo would have recommended you for a knighthood then
 

taipan

Referee
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My Uncle ran a trucking business another broke in horses .Saw them a lot but I'd never claim that as credentials on expertise on either of those occupations
Anyway keep on posting conservatories Taips ol mate. I'd be shocked to see anything showing cognitive thought from you.

The difference being mate I don't pretend to know anything about farm machinery as you intimated , and he(uncle) used to keep us informed as we were interested at regular family dos each year about what goes on in his orchard that's all. I don't pretend to know anything about growing apples, nurturing apples.I've witnessed the grading of apples on the farm and the picking, that's all on a holiday.I've seen hail damaged apples that's all.I've visited the farm meany times over the decades.He has since passed on.
Likewise with my time visiting dairy farms, then just a young blokes experience,Even went ferreting for rabbits on a number of occasion down Kangaroo Valley.

Mentioning my experiences either via being at his farm or via his comments when he visited ,is just that my experiences ,nothing more.Just like your experiences with global warming.

As you regularly do ,make assumptions, inferences, presumptions ,suppositions and postulate that I pretend to be an expert, that's your democratic choice.But you'd be wrong.
 

taipan

Referee
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My Uncle ran a trucking business another broke in horses .Saw them a lot but I'd never claim that as credentials on expertise on either of those occupa

I try and tell O.S. friends and relatives that we Australians are not a lot of pussywhipped ,brain dead dolts but Peter and the lost boys makes it difficult to genuinely sell that.

You already mentioned it on another post, you need to keep off the slops.
 
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The difference being mate I don't pretend to know anything about farm machinery as you intimated , and he(uncle) used to keep us informed as we were interested at regular family dos each year about what goes on in his orchard that's all. I don't pretend to know anything about growing apples, nurturing apples.I've witnessed the grading of apples on the farm and the picking, that's all on a holiday.I've seen hail damaged apples that's all.I've visited the farm meany times over the decades.He has since passed on.
Likewise with my time visiting dairy farms, then just a young blokes experience,Even went ferreting for rabbits on a number of occasion down Kangaroo Valley.

Mentioning my experiences either via being at his farm or via his comments when he visited ,is just that my experiences ,nothing more.Just like your experiences with global warming.

As you regularly do ,make assumptions, inferences, presumptions ,suppositions and postulate that I pretend to be an expert, that's your democratic choice.But you'd be wrong.[/QUOTE

actually a reasonable reply . But your ego got best of you on the next one
 

carcharias

Immortal
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You can tell from your phone now where you’ve been. Has there been a single documented case of any Aussie government abusing the info? Genuine question.

In any event if you’re dodgy, don’t download it. If you’re going to a gay bar (which aren’t open...I’ve checked) leave your phone at home.
Borce didn’t like the concept
 

Quicksilver

Bench
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You can tell from your phone now where you’ve been. Has there been a single documented case of any Aussie government abusing the info? Genuine question.

In any event if you’re dodgy, don’t download it. If you’re going to a gay bar (which aren’t open...I’ve checked) leave your phone at home.

Does it matter if it hasn’t been used in the past?

What we do now sets up our future. We can’t always guarantee that a future government will act legitimately. I’m probably more worried about the way it’s used by police etc than someone in the legislature (and police have certainly obtained evidence unlawfully in the past)

We could also end up with a Labor government at some point and you just don’t know what those commies could do. You need a system that is prepared for bad actors as well as good ones, because individuals are flawed.
 

carcharias

Immortal
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43,120
Does it matter if it hasn’t been used in the past?

What we do now sets up our future. We can’t always guarantee that a future government will act legitimately. I’m probably more worried about the way it’s used by police etc than someone in the legislature (and police have certainly obtained evidence unlawfully in the past)

We could also end up with a Labor government at some point and you just don’t know what those commies could do. You need a system that is prepared for bad actors as well as good ones, because individuals are flawed.
Don’t like it
Don’t download it
Don’t own a phone.
f**king simple
 

Eion

First Grade
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Does it matter if it hasn’t been used in the past?

What we do now sets up our future. We can’t always guarantee that a future government will act legitimately. I’m probably more worried about the way it’s used by police etc than someone in the legislature (and police have certainly obtained evidence unlawfully in the past)

We could also end up with a Labor government at some point and you just don’t know what those commies could do. You need a system that is prepared for bad actors as well as good ones, because individuals are flawed.
What if...stay with me...it actually did what is intended? Saved lives and ended this sooner? What would this app need to look like before you supported it (eg legislated it was turned off after the pandemic / all data deleted / not location based)? Would you support it if it was raised by another political party?
 

Quicksilver

Bench
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What if...stay with me...it actually did what is intended? Saved lives and ended this sooner? What would this app need to look like before you supported it (eg legislated it was turned off after the pandemic / all data deleted / not location based)? Would you support it if it was raised by another political party?

I’m not a fan of anything that tracks movements like this. But in this instance I can support it if legitimate safeguards are put in place. That would require specific legislation for the potential use of this data and sunset clauses etc.

I can see value in the tracing from a scientific perspective once the emergency has passed. They will probably want to undertake analysis on the transmission. I can understand this but privacy should be put first.

I’ve made it pretty clear that I don’t want any government, agency or private organisation using my personal data.
 

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