How did Hitler come to power? He was elected.
Why was he elected? Popularist, racist rhetoric, and German hope/pride for a turn around in fortunes from their disastrous World War 1 (and complicated communist and nationalist militia conflicts through Europe in the 20's and 30's creating a penchant for violence in European governments)
What did he do when elected? Intimidated, used thugs, changed rules, and turned a democracy into a dictatorship.
How was this possible? Business, citizens, interest groups (and yes, the Christian Church) accepted erosions of democracy
To the extent any current politician tries to erode democracy, the comparison is apt.
Why do you say democracy can't turn up disasters capable of creating Nazi Germany or Putin's Russia, when that is exactly what happened.
Hitler didn't set up concentration camps until he had total power. He didn't get elected on a platform of executing Jews and dissidents. But these things happen after a democracy allows itself to become undemocratic.
I specifically said the comparison is troubling to some (who are likely to blow up like you did) if you think people are saying that a current person, compared to Hitler, is executing civilians. That is the sort of thing happening in authoritarian states still today, but thankfully not here. I'd like to keep it that way. Keeping a free press, independent judiciary, transparent government, are important pillars of free democracies (more so than a house of review, which is still another safe guard).
But the issue is how do authoritarian states get that way, if they were once democracies (as Nazi Germany was). A house of review is absolutely useless in stopping an elected leader unless they are interested in keeping democracy over their own power (consider some senators in the USA who just agreed that Trump is fine to rig elections in his favour, if he thinks he is the best person to be president).
You've entirely missed the point if you think we need only become wary of authoritarian action after execution camps are set up or opposition parties are banned. By then it is too late.
I've already stated Hitler was elected..You obviously don't read what I stated, elections can turn up disasters.I've already spelt out the sequence from the Treaty of Versailles,to the Great depression.i could go into the whole scenario,and bore people witless.
Whose eroding democracy in this country?PMs and Treasurers make decisions after they have been elected.Some good decisions some not so.
You are putting words into my mouth.Never stated he got elected on a platform of of executing Jews or dissidents.He had reeducation camps for political opponents well before the "Final solution" came in.
When Govts here eventually rid themselves of opposition and put away political prisoners, then we have a problem.Thugs were used with the brown shirts in street to street running fights.
Missed the point BS.You made the dogmatic statement ,that it was APT to bring in Nazism applicable to ScoMo.Eroding democracy where?
I note the left are the ones who love to tag
You are comparing Post WW1 Germany/Great Depression with an Australian Govt with a strong opposition.They lose another one or two members they are behind the 8 ball. Somtimes this Govt has had to make concessions to Senators to pass legislation.So much for authoritarianism
"After execution camps are set up", that's your interpretation, and not even close to the mark
Where are all these democracies under the Westminster system ,that have fallen into the authoritarian trap.I can think of coups in Fiji.
We have a free press, we also have troops fighting in Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria.We also have terrorism hovering around.Just like in WW2 when our service people are fighting abroad, they should be protected as much a possible.I don't pretend to be an expert ,perhaps the Feds went overboard going to the ABC, but the press is not above the law.Sometimes this free press gets sued for false articles or naming people in error.
Transparent Govt we all want that ,but just about every Govt I know has at one time or another brought in a nasty, or had members who did the wrong thing.Both Liberal and Labor.
Thought we had an Independent judiciary, we also have referendums. ScoMO had no control over Gay Marriage decision.
Sometimes authoritarian countries of the socialist nature eg Eastern Europe become reasonable pillars of democracy.Try getting Venezuela or Cuba to follow suit.Ask yourself why is this so.
Well it perhaps shows that whilst democracies are not the ultimate form of Govt, they do a hell of a better job of getting people involved.
My opinion Trump (who I find objectionable)will probably get back in .His opposition with a Sanders socialist ,and Bloomberg a last minute wealthy Luigi are puerile.Whilst he did't get the popular vote, he got the electoral state numbers.
Hispanic and Black Americans now have higher employment and housing than ever before.Manufacturing is booming as is tradeHe has rebuilt the defence forces that were left run down by an indecisive Obama.
You appear to have ignored my comments and chose to do so to somehow validate the Nazism description.Sorry mate I would not apply that apt tag to any Government that has run this country since WW2.An appalling comparison.
