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Springs09

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That he didn’t commit the type of shoulder charge the law is aimed at, he was forced into it given proximity to the tryline and preserving his own safety, Feki wasn’t put in danger(as Flanagan said) which is why the law was introduced, etc.

Common sense will be applied, he will be let off and they may look at tweaking the law somehow so it isn’t so rigid.

But the law is aimed at this kind of shoulder charge, at all kinds. In the first year of the ban we rarely saw any big dangerous shoulder charges, but they still penalised every shoulder charge like this, and even softer ones really. Then when fans complain the NRL dig their heels in and decide any shoulder charge is worth 200 points. They knew this kind of shit was being penalised and decided to penalise it further, they didn't want any discretion at all and their words were that this kind of tackle needed to be completely eradicated from the game.

This is the type of tackle that most people think the law shouldn't be aimed at, but it is the exact kind of tackle the law is aimed at.

The fact that we now look at shoulder charges to see if an arm was slightly raised so the player can get off is proof of how stupid the rule is, as if a slightly raised arm is the difference between a good hit and a 2 week suspension. And we celebrate raised-arm shoulder hits that could quite easily kill someone if hit in the head, while condemning tucked-arm shoulder 'charges' as dirty play no matter how soft the impact. The rule was always stupid and hypocritical and something like this was bound to happen, but there is no way out of it for the NRL now. They can't just change their minds and say the rule wasn't made for hits like this because someone will miss out on a GF. There's no chance they'd suddenly change the rule for someone like Christian Welch or Brandon Smith.

It should be reviewed in the off-season, but Slater getting off would make a mockery of the last few seasons and all the other players who've been suspended under the same silly rule.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Although I hate the squeaky voiced prick I hope he gets off. It was a binnable offence not a one that deserves suspension, especially a grand final.
 

Johns Magic

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But the law is aimed at this kind of shoulder charge, at all kinds. In the first year of the ban we rarely saw any big dangerous shoulder charges, but they still penalised every shoulder charge like this, and even softer ones really. Then when fans complain the NRL dig their heels in and decide any shoulder charge is worth 200 points. They knew this kind of shit was being penalised and decided to penalise it further, they didn't want any discretion at all and their words were that this kind of tackle needed to be completely eradicated from the game.

This is the type of tackle that most people think the law shouldn't be aimed at, but it is the exact kind of tackle the law is aimed at.

The fact that we now look at shoulder charges to see if an arm was slightly raised so the player can get off is proof of how stupid the rule is, as if a slightly raised arm is the difference between a good hit and a 2 week suspension. And we celebrate raised-arm shoulder hits that could quite easily kill someone if hit in the head, while condemning tucked-arm shoulder 'charges' as dirty play no matter how soft the impact. The rule was always stupid and hypocritical and something like this was bound to happen, but there is no way out of it for the NRL now. They can't just change their minds and say the rule wasn't made for hits like this because someone will miss out on a GF. There's no chance they'd suddenly change the rule for someone like Christian Welch or Brandon Smith.

It should be reviewed in the off-season, but Slater getting off would make a mockery of the last few seasons and all the other players who've been suspended under the same silly rule.

The net result of your post is that they should change the law and I agree. This will be the watershed moment(even though others have got off unpunished for the same thing before).
 

Fangs

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Will get off.

Will be great seeing him run around for the final time against former teammate Greg Inglis next week.
 

Incorrect

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Jarryd Hayne somehow fought the law and won after his dog shot on Bryson Goodwin in 09 prelim final.

Billy will be fine.
Agreed. As a parra fan and someone who despises the Storm and their grubbiness as much the next bloke, I can admit the NRL somewhat understated the gravity of Hayne's offence to make sure he played the GF. His contact and offence was worse than Slater's IMO...
 

Mr Spock!

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I wonder if maybe they could change the rule to make ok to use the shoulder when defending a try, like how you're allowed to tackle in mid air when defending.

That's what Inglis was doing when he smashed dean young.....which is what brought in the rule change.
 

super_coach

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We are getting like rugby if Billy gets rubbed out for that tackle. Okay you might call it a shoulder charge, but it was not a tackle the law was introduced to stop. Let’s hope common sense is applied at the hearing. There has to be flexibility not everything is black or white
 

colly

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Well the charge is in??????
Grade one 200 points.. Miss a week.
Discuss........
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/bi...final-through-suspension-20180922-p505eb.html
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Billy Slater's hopes of an NRL grand final fairytale farewell are over unless he can beat a ban for a shoulder charge at the judiciary this week.

Slater was charged with a grade-one offence for his hit on Cronulla's Sosaia Feki on Friday night, meaning he will miss one match even with an early guilty plea
." SMH
 
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parraeel

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We are getting like rugby if Billy gets rubbed out for that tackle. Okay you might call it a shoulder charge, but it was not a tackle the law was introduced to stop. Let’s hope common sense is applied at the hearing. There has to be flexibility not everything is black or white

No law was to remove those tackles, what would have happened if Feki crouched or was lower positnioened when slater hit, would have hit him in the head .

The nrl does not want these types of tackles attempted as they can go wrong and hit people in the head.
 

super_coach

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No law was to remove those tackles, what would have happened if Feki crouched or was lower positnioened when slater hit, would have hit him in the head .

The nrl does not want these types of tackles attempted as they can go wrong and hit people in the head.

I have seen a few this year that did not even talked about. Can not recall the exact game but one of the Tigers wingers was shoulder charged over the side line while diving for a try and it was play on. The tigers lost the game by a point or two.

Not a Billy fan and we all know he has grub streak in him, but this was not grubby or even reckless. Let him finish next week in the GF and fade off into the sunset
 

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