Sharks boycott team photo shoot.

[Eion]

Getting paid to play in a comp that doesn't make money is pretty good.

Do you know how much it makes? I don’t. But a lot of people certainly watched the SOO and finals games. Not a stretch to assume a decent quality comp will attract more and more as it builds. It’s not like they are earning heaps anyway, they’re paid bugger all.

I don’t get the hate, really don’t.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Do you know how much it makes? I don’t. But a lot of people certainly watched the SOO and finals games. Not a stretch to assume a decent quality comp will attract more and more as it builds. It’s not like they are earning heaps anyway, they’re paid bugger all.

I don’t get the hate, really don’t.

The game can easily afford the players reasonable requests and have plenty left over.

The executive salaries of the nrl are next level. They are not the ones risking life and limb every weekend.

 

[Iamback]

The game can easily afford the players reasonable requests and have plenty left over.

The executive salaries of the nrl are next level. They are not the ones risking life and limb every weekend.

An ACL operation is about $20k, How many of them until the NRL is broke?

There needs to be a cap on it, It can't just be a free for all

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

An ACL operation is about $20k, How many of them until the NRL is broke?

There needs to be a cap on it, It can't just be a free for all

The NRL made $60m profit last year…

That’s 3,000 acl ops, that’s more than the number of NRL players many many times over plus some.

Right @Aliceinwonderland?

 

[Iamback]

$60m profit last year…

3000 acl ops

And how do you expand the NRLW amongst other plans the NRL has?

 

[Ozzi_78]

The fact is the NRLW shouldn’t be impeding the completion of any NRLM agreement that could ultimately impact the season. They should be completely seperate and if the RLPA didn’t make it part of this then no one would even notice.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

And how do you expand the NRLW amongst other plans the NRL has?

You really think there is a demand for 3,000 acl ops?

 

[Eion]

The fact is the NRLW shouldn’t be impeding the completion of any NRLM agreement that could ultimately impact the season. They should be completely seperate and if the RLPA didn’t make it part of this then no one would even notice.

But anything I’ve read about the non completion of the agreement has sweet bugger all to do with the women.

 

[Iamback]

You really think there is a demand for 3,000 acl ops?

Depends how far back the past player agreement goes, hence why it needs to be limited

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Depends how far back the past player agreement goes, hence why it needs to be limited

How many aged acl ops are out there?

 

[Iamback]

How many aged acl ops are out there?

How many players are running around in country footy or ESL that played NRL, Or left the game after being a fringe player?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

How many players are running around in country footy or ESL that played NRL, Or left the game after being a fringe player?

That doesn’t answer my question. You had asserted that acls were the issue. I’m just exploring that claim further with you.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

The reality of the NRL is that the few stakeholders make a lot of money and the vast majority do not.

Players risk life and limb every week and a modest and measured correction of this grossly unsatisfactory state of affairs which is adversely effecting the most needy and disadvantaged in our game is long overdue.

It’s time the game took players post career welfare and well being seriously. They give a lot and I think as a group they deserve a lot more than the crumbs and abandonment the overwhelming majority are forced to endure.

Without this correction, we probably won’t have a game.

These guys pay a high price and in many cases it’s indefinite pain, misery, unsatisfying jobs and disability forever.

We must do the right thing, we must try.

 

[morton's beanie]

Do you know how much it makes? I don’t. But a lot of people certainly watched the SOO and finals games. Not a stretch to assume a decent quality comp will attract more and more as it builds. It’s not like they are earning heaps anyway, they’re paid bugger all.

I don’t get the hate, really don’t.

No hate, just stating that getting paid to make a product that loses money and being championed for it is a pretty good gig.

It will grow and its good for RL. If women ever start watching and paying to see it it might even make a dollar in a couple decades.

Gets too much noise for a 6 week comp with a handful of teams that relatively f**kall people are interested in. Its great for the players, for young girls to aspire too etc. I'll never watch it but in saying that I don't bother with blokes footy outside Sharks much anymore either.

 

[Iamback]

That doesn’t answer my question. You had asserted that acls were the issue. I’m just exploring that claim further with you.

I used that as an example, Shoulders can be an ongoing issue too

 

[Craigshark]

It’s not even about what the nrlw players are paid as such. the fact they get treated in every sense like a professional sporting competition from all the staff costs to the travel costs, the kit. Everything involved. It would be costing an absolute fortune and there is no way it would be bringing in enough to cover it all. The carry on from some of the players as if they are the be all and end all is embarrassing. Celebrating a gf win after a 6 week competition wearing the snow goggles. Seriously.. Would you rather watch a reserve grade game with 34 blokes who have played their whole lives, who work all week who are getting paid a pittance and getting no publicity at all, or nrlw?

 

[Eion]

It’s not even about what the nrlw players are paid as such. the fact they get treated in every sense like a professional sporting competition from all the staff costs to the travel costs, the kit. Everything involved. It would be costing an absolute fortune and there is no way it would be bringing in enough to cover it all. The carry on from some of the players as if they are the be all and end all is embarrassing. Celebrating a gf win after a 6 week competition wearing the snow goggles. Seriously.. Would you rather watch a reserve grade game with 34 blokes who have played their whole lives, who work all week who are getting paid a pittance and getting no publicity at all, or nrlw?

It’s now a 10 team comp, who knows how many rounds because…the nrl haven’t released a draw…but it’ll be more than 6 weeks.

The nrl is a business, they think it’s worth money long term…or that they’ll lose money if they don’t go down this path with sponsors etc. Either way, V’landys is not a bleeding heart and it is a business decision.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I used that as an example, Shoulders can be an ongoing issue too

With respect, I think you need total quantum to sustain your claim.

I don’t expect you can deliver such a figure and please note I’m not being critical.

I doubt that the RLPA and affiliates are minded to send the game broke. That does not make sense.

 

[Chimp]

I completely understand the need for post-career support, however it can become very murky - how do they prove that injuries/issues in later life are a direct result of their NRL career, and haven’t been sustained doing other things? That will be the issue with any insurance type cover - the cost will be astronomical, as you’re likely just having to cover them for everything, for the rest of their life.
Another similar issue, and people won’t like this, is around mental health and the health of the brain. Unfortunately, the typical demographic of a rugby league player, coupled with the social climate of being in and around a rugby league team, and exasperated by things like never having to have had a ‘proper job’, being molly coddled since being a talented junior, and having their whole life routine planned for them throughout their career, and that suddenly not being the case after retirement, means they are more susceptible to making poor decisions around alcohol and drugs - both of which have serious ramifications on health and life stability. The NRL picking up the tab for these issues doesn’t feel right, and again will cost a fortune. And the RLPA want the NRL to pay for it, but let the RLPA run it.
If the RLPA are so keen on this sort of thing, why don’t they increase their membership fee, and they can cover the cost in future?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I completely understand the need for post-career support, however it can become very murky - how do they prove that injuries/issues in later life are a direct result of their NRL career, and haven’t been sustained doing other things? That will be the issue with any insurance type cover - the cost will be astronomical, as you’re likely just having to cover them for everything, for the rest of their life.
Another similar issue, and people won’t like this, is around mental health and the health of the brain. Unfortunately, the typical demographic of a rugby league player, coupled with the social climate of being in and around a rugby league team, and exasperated by things like never having to have had a ‘proper job’, being molly coddled since being a talented junior, and having their whole life routine planned for them throughout their career, and that suddenly not being the case after retirement, means they are more susceptible to making poor decisions around alcohol and drugs - both of which have serious ramifications on health and life stability. The NRL picking up the tab for these issues doesn’t feel right, and again will cost a fortune. And the RLPA want the NRL to pay for it, but let the RLPA run it.
If the RLPA are so keen on this sort of thing, why don’t they increase their membership fee, and they can cover the cost in future?

Enjoyed the post, but disagree.