Sharks boycott team photo shoot.

[Craigshark]

Surely there would already be some form of insurance in place already if a player was injured and couldn’t play or work like most other jobs?

 

[DJDL]

The players don’t more money.
they want to have programs set up and included in the cba for post career. Serious injury funds etc.

So they're asking the NRL to shell out more money, on top of their pay demands.

The NRL coffers are not the financial equivalent of a magic pudding.
If the players are serious about their demands, surely they need to accept concessions need to be made elsewhere to fund what they are after.

 

[shaggs]

So they're asking the NRL to shell out more money, on top of their pay demands.

The NRL coffers are not the financial equivalent of a magic pudding.
If the players are serious about their demands, surely they need to accept concessions need to be made elsewhere to fund what they are after.

I agree and the announcement of the salary cap was done before the players had completed the CBA with these programs. That is the issue. Not the money. I doubt the players even asked for that much of an increase, but the nrl have the issue now because they need to add more now since they didn’t follow procedure

 

[Sharkman]

Damn, some of you lot are tough on the players making as much bank as they can.

the NRL is cesspit of dodgy contracting deals, outsourced providers and any other corporate money making businesses you could name. The creative accounting that would take place to lower the profitability of the NRL would be next level.

Don’t cry for Vlandys for fgs sake. That like crying for Joyce because baggage handlers want better conditions and work slow. If Vlandys could outsource the players to a cheaper provider he would

Fg the establishment. Fg Vlandys. And fg Joyce too.

 

[Ozzi_78]

Joyce would love that.

 

[Eion]

Got to laugh at some of the female players on their socials posting things about it like “no players, no nrlw” ahhhh I don’t think many people would lose too much sleep over no nrlw

How dare they want a comp sorted out a month before it maybe starts. Come on dude, it matters to them and pretty shit the nrl haven’t sorted it out. I want to see the draw and may well check out a game or 2.

 

[Craigshark]

How dare they want a comp sorted out a month before it maybe starts. Come on dude, it matters to them and pretty shit the nrl haven’t sorted it out. I want to see the draw and may well check out a game or 2.

totally entitled to your opinion and your interest in it. To try and insinuate they don’t already have it pretty bloody good is a stretch.

 

[King Ben]

We all have it pretty good in comparison to somebody else, doesn't mean we all don't deserve better.

 

[Craigshark]

We all have it pretty good in comparison to somebody else, doesn't mean we all don't deserve better.

the difference being the company they work for is most likely bleeding money from keeping their jobs going. The rest of us would be sacked or made redundant.

 

[Eion]

totally entitled to your opinion and your interest in it. To try and insinuate they don’t already have it pretty bloody good is a stretch.

How have they got it pretty bloody good? Serious question.

 

[Craigshark]

How have they got it pretty bloody good? Serious question.

is that a serious question? Serious question

 

[Chimp]

How dare they want a comp sorted out a month before it maybe starts. Come on dude, it matters to them and pretty shit the nrl haven’t sorted it out. I want to see the draw and may well check out a game or 2.

The fact the women’s game is covers by the same CBA as the elite men’s game is ridiculous.
The womens game is a completely different landscape, with very different commercial realities and strategic priorities. The NRLW is a millions miles away from being comparable to the NRL and should be governed entirely separately, even if it still sits under the umbrella of the NRL.

 

[Eion]

The fact the women’s game is covers by the same CBA as the elite men’s game is ridiculous.
The womens game is a completely different landscape, with very different commercial realities and strategic priorities. The NRLW is a millions miles away from being comparable to the NRL and should be governed entirely separately, even if it still sits under the umbrella of the NRL.

I assume it was the men in the RLPA that let the women join in the first place so I guess the players only have themselves to blame if it’s a problem.

But is it really women’s issues that are driving this thing going unresolved? Doesn’t seem that way to me, even if I personally have the shits the schedule hasn’t come out.

 

[bad boy bubby]

I am usually in favour of the players across the board.
I read an article in the nrl forum, which I'm not quite clear on yet, where it reads like this:
The players have never had to pay for their own personal Health Insurance (not work cover related, personal insurance). The Clubs have had to pay it for them. With the pay rises, the NRL have said that the players now have to pay for their own Health Insurance, in turn, saving the clubs some cash to spend on other causes.
The players have then come out and said that their pay rises aren't as big as stated because they now have to pay their own personal Health Insurance......
If this is real then the players have lost me.
We, the general public, all have to pay our own Health Insurance, and it has become very hard to keep up with the Insurance Companies upward trends.
If this is true, a heavy dose of reality is required to the players.

 

[Mr Angry]

Oi, stop cutting into Uncle Ruperts profits.

Do not care why, just cut it out.

And FFS let the Broncos win, Lachlan has not a win for while.

Bitches.

 

[Chimp]

Just listened to Wade on the James Graham podcast - he comes across very well to be fair. The ex-player welfare stuff that they’re chasing for is all well and good and absolutely makes sense, but it costs and would be difficult to manage, and it appears the players believe this should be payed for by the NRL, but managed by the RLPA, and should be paid over and above their salary rise.
There were a couple of comments that stood out on the CBA stuff that alluded to the fact the players have been eager to take action for a while, sounded very much like they’ve been waiting for an excuse to ‘take action’ as a group - he said nothing to change my opinion that the players and the RLPA are getting too big for their boots - they want to have their cake, eat it and also be stood above the chef telling him exactly how to bake it, despite not being chefs themselves….
On the positive side, when he talked about why he hasn’t had a player agent/manager since being 26, it showed what qualities he will have as a leader of men, which certainly made me probably soften my stance on him being here still. He talked about taking control of his own life and actions, and to be a man, he shouldn’t have to have his manager/agent basically wiping his backside for him. How can he teach his kids to be accountable for their actions and future if he leaves everything to a manager. Certainly the sort of personal accountability I’d like him to be passing on to our young blokes.
There was 1 bit that I didn’t like, where he talked about the game being ‘easier nowadays’ as he doesn’t stress before a game or after results etc, which I could be taking out of context, but I’d say that’s a sign of a little bit of complacency and rather crudely, not caring as much anymore. That may not be the case, I’m sure he’s meaning about being older and wiser and understanding there’s no value in stressing, but it could be interpreted that the drive isn’t as strong as it once was, which is natural as you get older, have kids, have a different perspective of life in general, particularly after you’ve already reached the top of the mountain once.

 

[Special K]

If this is true, a heavy dose of reality is required to the players.

100%

From listening to the Wade podcast with Graham there were times that I wanted to bash my head against the desk. The wiggle room around concessions/better deal just did not seem logical at times. You don't always get what you want and it seems their representation isn't being clear with the NRL/Players on certain things which creates confusion. If the NRL is thinking it is one way based on conversations and the players think it is another then there is an issue.

Other times there was clear logic such as talking about the retirement fund that was cut from 12k to 3k in covid and isn't in the salary cap but is for every top 30 player. They want it back to 12k for everyone to help everyone rather than the salary cap going up so much. Seems like the right thing to do but how does that get lost at this point when the salary cap is agreed upon. How did they not follow up and confirm this multiple times? You can blame the NRL for sending it/leaking it but Wade even said they had agreed to the salary cap and it was "all sweet". You can't have it both ways - do they now reduce the salary cap or is that "going backwards". What a shit show.

Newton comes across as super inexperienced and someone who can't explain things correctly. The posts the players get followed by "do we have your attention yet" was so lame. Wade would be a good leader for it if he gets more real world experience in cutting deals. RLPA should go out and get someone from the business world to get it done for them next time.

I hope they get everything they want just give the fans proper contracts that can't be broken when a player feels like it - ie Miller and a proper transfer period. In the real world I have 4 weeks notice that I have to give/get given if I am to change my job. 15 months or whatever it is now is a piss taking joke.

 

[PJ]

That last paragraph.

Contract is a contract.

Player wants 2 back themselves go year to year.

Sick to death of the bs breaking contracts, and does seem to favour the players.

 

[Special K]

No other sport has contracts as weak as ours besides soccer who basically trade contracts. This narrative that clubs can cut players is total bullshit - see Fifita, Moylan, Dugan, Ash Taylor etc. Without cause clubs can't cut underperformance. They can manage it as in freeze them in cup but that punishes both parties but as soon as someone kicks on while on a good deal the first thing brought up is their next deal. Hynes who I love and is handling this as perfectly as possible under the current rules will get an upgrade for 2024 making the current deal we took a risk on really a 2 not a 3 year deal.

Nathan Brown said it when coaching... You can't do a good deal because as soon as you do someone tries to break it. Look at Haas and his drama last year. AFB walking out on Manly in 2021. Look at players who try and walk to another club/union/ESL. Essentially we ask clubs to do a gentlemans agreement because the contracts are not worth shit. The one thing about Suaalii I respect is he is being up front about it. Fans want to know the players they attach themselves too will actually be at their f**king club.

In the NBA guaranteed is guaranteed money. In the NFL there is non guaranteed money. If the players want the flexibility then lets bring in non guaranteed deals.

 

[morton's beanie]

How have they got it pretty bloody good? Serious question.

Getting paid to play in a comp that doesn't make money is pretty good.