Sharks cap superthread - latest: NRL clears Flanagan to assistant coach from 2020

[Russell Crowe's Band]

He rolled over....

on who? flanno?

 

[Frailty]

A very guarded and muddy response by Greenberg last night on league life when asked why sharks title not stripped like storms were

“On the occasion of the Sharks, we felt in 2016 the decisions we made on sanctions had no ability for us to change the premierships.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/n...m/news-story/f4fd036f322be13969d7f7ed250a8c1a

I don't know how it is muddy at all.

Third Party agreements that are not declared or have been arranged by a club in breach of the Salary Cap have always had that amount applied to the Salary Cap. That is the precedent that has been set by the NRL for years. In 2016, the Sharks player contracts were below the salary cap even with these amounts applied - therefore they did not exceed the salary cap or provide an unfair advantage.

It's that simple.

 

[txta2]

Paul Gallen was saying most of the 3rd party money wasn't even paid, that is why Barry went digging.

 

[txta2]

How did Lyle Gorman get off scot-free?

How did Bellamy get off scot-free?

 

[Generalzod]

A very guarded and muddy response by Greenberg last night on league life when asked why sharks title not stripped like storms were

“On the occasion of the Sharks, we felt in 2016 the decisions we made on sanctions had no ability for us to change the premierships.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/n...m/news-story/f4fd036f322be13969d7f7ed250a8c1a

So Paul Kent was also on League Life last night f**k it's pretty obvious his f**king agenda....

 

[Dragon Slayer]

The cocky geek that sits next to Paul merkin was in full Sharks hate mode last night.

He’s got the Sharks playing state cup and bringing in Redcliffe.

I felt like pushing his glasses into his eye sockets.

 

[Perth Red]

I don't know how it is muddy at all.

Third Party agreements that are not declared or have been arranged by a club in breach of the Salary Cap have always had that amount applied to the Salary Cap. That is the precedent that has been set by the NRL for years. In 2016, the Sharks player contracts were below the salary cap even with these amounts applied - therefore they did not exceed the salary cap or provide an unfair advantage.

It's that simple.

But they did have a system in place to cheat the cap, the fact they couldnt even get that right and get enough money into that cheating system to go over the cap surely should be irrelevant?
Or is the nrl saying it is ok to have illegal tpa agreement systems in place as long as it doesn’t put you over the cap? Kent has gone on hard on this all week and no one has refuted it, suggesting it is correct that sharks had an illegal system in place but were too inept in 2016 to make it pay, the fact the 2016 squad was built thenprevious 2 years using this illegal system seems to have escaped Greenberg!

 

[Perth Red]

How did Bellamy get off scot-free?

The coach isn’t in charge of contracts, the ceo is in charge of dodgy tpa backdoor systems being set up, bit of a difference.

 

[Perth Red]

So Paul Kent was also on League Life last night f**k it's pretty obvious his f**king agenda....

No he was asked the question by a Storm fan in audience then probed gently by the panel. They let him off lightly as no one questioned the real issue, which is “ is it ok to set up cheating systems as long as you’re not over the cap?”

 

[Generalzod]

No he was asked the question by a Storm fan in audience then probed gently by the panel. They let him off lightly as no one questioned the real issue, which is “ is it ok to set up cheating systems as long as you’re not over the cap?”

The Gospel according to Paul Kent...

 

[Miller was a legend]

But they did have a system in place to cheat the cap, the fact they couldnt even get that right and get enough money into that cheating system to go over the cap surely should be irrelevant?
Or is the nrl saying it is ok to have illegal tpa agreement systems in place as long as it doesn’t put you over the cap? Kent has gone on hard on this all week and no one has refuted it, suggesting it is correct that sharks had an illegal system in place but were too inept in 2016 to make it pay, the fact the 2016 squad was built thenprevious 2 years using this illegal system seems to have escaped Greenberg!

Hmm I thought the ramped up attempt to breach anything was 2017?

Yes small breaches found including that the club reported in 2013-15 but again we don’t know what or how, however the real thought out attempt was apparently 2017 and all related to an what the NRL said was an attempt. They themselves said not acted upon.

So all we really know is some breaches, some reported, some found and an attempt or plan that wasn’t acted upon. Is that about it?

 

[Perth Red]

Hmm I thought the ramped up attempt to breach anything was 2017?

Yes small breaches found including that the club reported in 2013-15 but again we don’t know what or how, however the real thought out attempt was apparently 2017 and all related to an what the NRL said was an attempt. They themselves said not acted upon.

So all we really know is some breaches, some reported, some found and an attempt or plan that wasn’t acted upon. Is that about it?

Well Kent has been very clear and forthright in calling out that the tpa cheating systems were in place and operational in 2016. Neither the sharks or nrl has come out and challenged this. I wonder why?

In the mean time another very ugly annual report is showing the the rivers of gold still aren’t flowing fast enough,

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...t/news-story/8d9da55a677b2467f56addfae6283a88

 

[SBD82]

Does anyone know what happens to the NRL grant if clubs don’t spend the full amount? Is it returned to the NRL?

 

[unforgiven]

Does anyone know what happens to the NRL grant if clubs don’t spend the full amount? Is it returned to the NRL?

No

 

[Perth Red]

Does anyone know what happens to the NRL grant if clubs don’t spend the full amount? Is it returned to the NRL?

Do you mean the salary cap component? Grant is $13mill, cap $10mill. My understanding is that cubs have to spend at least 90% of cap amount, Did the football cap ever come In?

 

[SBD82]

Do you mean the salary cap component? Grant is $13mill, cap $10mill. My understanding is that cubs have to spend at least 90% of cap amount, Did the football cap ever come In?

Yep. The cap component.

Do you know what the penalty is for not spending 90%?

 

[myrrh ken]

The real vice of unregistered TPAs is if they are used as a mechanism to breach the salary cap.

If no breach, then a slap on the wrist is all that's required.

No harm, no foul.

 

[Perth Red]

Yep. The cap component.

Do you know what the penalty is for not spending 90%?

I don’t think it’s ever happened, clubs would rather run up debts than not carry full squads it would seem.

 

[Perth Red]

The real vice of unregistered TPAs is if they are used as a mechanism to breach the salary cap.

If no breach, then a slap on the wrist is all that's required.

No harm, no foul.

Haha, maybe we should take same approach to drug cheating, only punish players if it actually makes them better?

 

[Miller was a legend]

Well Kent has been very clear and forthright in calling out that the tpa cheating systems were in place and operational in 2016. Neither the sharks or nrl has come out and challenged this. I wonder why?

In the mean time another very ugly annual report is showing the the rivers of gold still aren’t flowing fast enough,

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...t/news-story/8d9da55a677b2467f56addfae6283a88

Lost me right at “Kent”

What he is the expert?

Show proof that the Sharks has a systematic cheating scheme in place until the 2017 time line the NRL spoke about? You know the one where they said it was clear there was intent, even if the Sharks didn’t go ahead with it.

Maybe Todd isn’t saying anything because the Sharks are in the shit for more the stupidity of their attempt or intent, than anything else

As for the annual report. Who cares, it will change and the rivers of gold all clubs get from the NRL will continue to roll in