Sharks cap superthread - latest: NRL clears Flanagan to assistant coach from 2020

[Storms Light Fire]

The NRL takes a completely dystopian approach to salary cap cheating.

There is one rule for one team and one rule for another.

Just highlighting what a joke the whole thing is.

Hypocrites pointing the finger at other hypocrites.

My take - No chance in hell the Sharks were clean in 2016. Cap rorting doesn't magically stop for 12 months. It ramps up. Putting that aside for a moment, the illegal payments made in 2015 helped them keep an illegal team for the 2016 season, no matter how you slice it... They should be immediately stripped on the 2016 title.

but if the Sydney-bias let the Eels continue playing for points, I have a bad feeling it will let the Sharks keep their title

 

[taipan]

A normal CEO would just say they are cap compliant for 2018.

A moron CEO would say they are $500K under the cap.... which actually makes them not compliant under the terms of the current CBA.

The sharks it seems have since made statements that they will spend their entire cap this year, so toddles was indeed pulling figures out his ass

Like some of the "moron" CEO that have appeared with our public institutions and companies in the last few years LOL.Banks,Dreamworld,Telstra,Dick Smith. Yep.

A sporting organisation involving a number of clubs, who(clubs) employ directly the performers involved, is a different kettle of fish to a Bank or Insurance Co.The head body provides the bulk of the clubs; financing to the individual ,employing clubs.

In fact these sporting organisations are in reality not for profit, but for the benefit of propagating the code.They of course want to make money, to have a future fund to cover for a drop in TV revenue down the line.or for infrastructure.

The decision by the CEO of said sporting organisations,is there to ensure all of these individual clubs ,act in accordance with the rules and regulations of the organisations and are to be treated fairly and supposedly equally.

You're going off half cocked.Greenberg is simply spelling out the facts, on the information he has received,all clubs are under the cap(based on the signing deadline also).He has at the same time by doing so, given a sense of relief to all fans of all NRL clubs, who may be expressing doubts on their own clubs.If showing concern for fans of all clubs is moronic, you live on a different planet.

You understand all clubs including the Sharks have to utilise 95% of their Cap,but it doesn't have to be now.We still have a month or so to soak up the difference.Like winning a G/F etc.

The reason the Sharks spelt this out is obvious, because there may be naive and gullible people and a prowling press, who need to be advised ,the club has to have spent the 95% by .......date.It's not rocket science.it's not pulling figures out of a*ses.
He's being open and transparent .something we've accused him and rightly so in the past of not being so.

 

[Exsilium]

Somehow this is the Roosters fault....

 

[Generalzod]

The NRL takes a completely dystopian approach to salary cap cheating.

There is one rule for one team and one rule for another.

Just highlighting what a joke the whole thing is.

Hypocrites pointing the finger at other hypocrites.

My take - No chance in hell the Sharks were clean in 2016. Cap rorting doesn't magically stop for 12 months. It ramps up. Putting that aside for a moment, the illegal payments made in 2015 helped them keep an illegal team for the 2016 season, no matter how you slice it... They should be immediately stripped on the 2016 title.

but if the Sydney-bias let the Eels continue playing for points, I have a bad feeling it will let the Sharks keep their title

Listen pal no one does salary cap rorts like the Melbourne Storm...

 

[Stephen 'Stevo' Stevenson]

At the risk of drowning further into the mire, by arguing with an alt of an alt, .....I wasnt talking about the Sharks.

Hmm

So you jumped the gun, now resorting to the good old 'alts' bullshit.

And every other team I mentioned has been found guilty of a major salary cap breach, so don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, probably best you back off from this one.

 

[taipan]

The NRL takes a completely dystopian approach to salary cap cheating.

There is one rule for one team and one rule for another.

Just highlighting what a joke the whole thing is.

Hypocrites pointing the finger at other hypocrites.

My take - No chance in hell the Sharks were clean in 2016. Cap rorting doesn't magically stop for 12 months. It ramps up. Putting that aside for a moment, the illegal payments made in 2015 helped them keep an illegal team for the 2016 season, no matter how you slice it... They should be immediately stripped on the 2016 title.

but if the Sydney-bias let the Eels continue playing for points, I have a bad feeling it will let the Sharks keep their title

That can be your take.Doesn't mean it's correct,if the Sharks have been found to have intentionally systematically rorted the system in 2016,then there is an argument for doing whatever.That has not yet been shown to be the case.

Players left in 2015,and remember one player( no names )complained about being underpaid ,compared to others in a similar position.

Oh and the code has a Commission now ,not half owned by a media company,and a CEO who despite his faults ,cares more about the fans that the former New's lawyer did.

Greenberg pointed out when involved in the Parramatta dramas,a different approach is in operation now, with the new H/O administration.That also happens in business.

Every case has to be taken on its merits or demerits.So far repeat so far ,to compare Waldron's efforts over years with this is ludicrous.

 

[Generalzod]

Just get rid of 3rd party payments it will solve the problem...

 

[mave]

Hmm

So you jumped the gun, now resorting to the good old 'alts' bullshit.

And every other team I mentioned has been found guilty of a major salary cap breach, so don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, probably best you back off from this one.

One club has a solid appeal in the process of being deliberated upon.
Not guilty until the appeal is finalised by the supposedly independent panel.

 

[Storms Light Fire]

Seeing the Sharks fans try and defend this on social media is hilarious.

The very same people who were baying for blood in 2010, appalled by the systematic cheating, are now clambering over one another to defend it. Almost all of them are now trying to say, "This is way different to the Storm in 2010, we were under the cap, we just didn't record our TPAs correctly".

Huh??? That is exactly the same you disingenuous people. Not reporting all TPAs to the NRL, organising a number of TPAs, using existing club sponsors, guaranteeing TPA payments = All illegal TPA deals. If it is illegal, it gets included in your Salary Cap - THE SAME AS US!

As we all agree, YOU are hypocrites.

 

[franklin2323]

How many clubs have been fined for restrospectice cap breaches? Many is the answer if you need clarification.
Thought they got it right I guess

Either way we aren't to know what teams do off the books. Also Kangaroos test coming up will allow bonuses, finals bonuses etc to say every club is fine is just a guess on Greenbergs part

 

[Storms Light Fire]

Yes Greenberg has proven in this mess and every other mess that has hit his Titanic like administration that lettuce leaf limp Todd Greenberg hnfi.

 

[Weaponhead]

Seeing the Sharks fans try and defend this on social media is hilarious.

The very same people who were baying for blood in 2010, appalled by the systematic cheating, are now clambering over one another to defend it. Almost all of them are now trying to say, "This is way different to the Storm in 2010, we were under the cap, we just didn't record our TPAs correctly".

Huh??? That is exactly the same you disingenuous people. Not reporting all TPAs to the NRL, organising a number of TPAs, using existing club sponsors, guaranteeing TPA payments = All illegal TPA deals. If it is illegal, it gets included in your Salary Cap - THE SAME AS US!

As we all agree, YOU are hypocrites.

RUOK?

 

[Generalzod]

Seeing the Sharks fans try and defend this on social media is hilarious.

The very same people who were baying for blood in 2010, appalled by the systematic cheating, are now clambering over one another to defend it. Almost all of them are now trying to say, "This is way different to the Storm in 2010, we were under the cap, we just didn't record our TPAs correctly".

Huh??? That is exactly the same you disingenuous people. Not reporting all TPAs to the NRL, organising a number of TPAs, using existing club sponsors, guaranteeing TPA payments = All illegal TPA deals. If it is illegal, it gets included in your Salary Cap - THE SAME AS US!

As we all agree, YOU are hypocrites.

Go and blow your own trumpet...

 

[Storms Light Fire]

Surely, we stand as hypocrites - if we suspend society’s usual ethical standards in our pursuit of the unethical behaviour of football clubs?

Do we excuse the suspension of our usual standards – based on the seriousness of the claims against these Clubs because the offenders ‘deserve it’?

Can we expect ethical changes in Club behaviour - if we don’t demonstrate ethical behaviour ourselves?
The NRL is not above criticism – it is not a sacred cow; there is no blasphemy law applicable here; it is a football league – and not above robust debate and an expectation of certain standards.

It is morally indefensible - to see “collateral damage” as the cost of progress; this can not be considered a principled stance – and, as well, it is unlikely to achieve its ultimate goal.

Any League or hierarchy that suspends ethical considerations on the altar of advancing another ethical goal – inevitably risks sabotaging itself; it risks tarnishing the final outcome.

For the NRL, the principles of accountability and responsibility are pivotal - if we are to hold the game of rugby league in trust and as highly as we all wish we could.

 

[Miller was a legend]

Waaa waaa waaa

 

[rlforever]

Hope this scum club gets taken down. They should have been banned after the peptide scandal. Now salary cap??!! Take their 2016 Premiership off them. NOW!!!

 

[Miller was a legend]

Hope this scum club gets taken down. They should have been banned after the peptide scandal. Now salary cap??!! Take their 2016 Premiership off them. NOW!!!

How is la la land today?

 

[Storms Light Fire]

La La land is fully of hypocrites

 

[Miller was a legend]

La La land is fully of hypocrites

Say hello to your friends

 

[rlforever]

Say hello to your friends

Your club is going down in flames. Hahahaha