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looks like you were to late to edit that post old mate.
we thought because my son was to start school this year, Grade One, we'd bring them to Bali to get the language the culture spend time with the family.
Q: So you're not a long-time Bali resident?
A: No.
carcharias said:It is from the Sunday program and the interview that has been shown twice now.
I've watched it twice .
I don't know anything about that website , I only used the extract.
here's the exact same interveiw from the Sunday nine nmsn website
http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/cover_stories/transcript_1775.asp
Does it make any difference?
I didn't even notice the banner nor do I care about it.
Have you read what I wrote????
here I''l refresh your memory
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The report in the Australian talks about how they smuggle the drugs.
If your so convinced "Links" will solve the case;
Tell me or show me a link where it shows from whom or where she got the drugs.
They know where the Bali 9 got theirs.
ROSS COULTHART: And he says his investigations ten years ago revealed corrupt police were involved with drug traffickers using airports to move drugs around the country.
People want to be told it's a kangaroo court, but it's dangerous to pander to that kind of stuff.
carcharias said:First of all Jae , Mercede's Corby lives in QLD .
Her husband is Balinese, his family still lives there.
I've already shown you that, if it was a lie do you think she would get on national tv and say it?
Now Borat, I already said I dont have anything to do with that website and nor do I care about the banner.
I have no opinion what so ever.
Never been there , never met anyone who is involved so it's not my place.
The link I supplied showd the story I was talking about .I have since supplied another link to the exact same story.
This rascist talk has nothing to do with me.
You mentioned it.
I will not remove any link.
My intension's where clear and honest.
I only put one point of view across and at no point did I say I was right and you were wrong.
I have spoken with a lady @ Qantas with over 30 years service in check in.
I have also spoken with a baggage handler at Qantas.
They both believe she had nothing to do with it.
Chanel 9 has nothing to do with my opinion.
Like I said I thought she was guilty until I spoke with those people.
Independent commentary, free from the left-wing, politically correct bigotry of the majority of journalists
Corrupt and biased Indonesian authorities lock up Schapelle Corby for 20 years
:lol: Further inspection reveals some more wonderful "independent" little comments:The hypocrisy, prejudice and corruption of the Indonesian legal system was glaringly highlighted on Friday 27 May 2005 when three Indonesian judges sitting in a crowded Bali courthouse found 27-year-old Australian tourist Schapelle Corby guilty of possessing 4.1 kg of marihuana, sentencing her to 20 years in a stinking, overcrowded, rat-infested jail.
In the barbaric conditions of an Indonesian jail, this was tantamount to a death sentence. Most long-term prisoners are dead within ten years of being locked up. Without food and medicine supplied by family and friends, Corby's life expectancy in jail will be short.
Corby was never going to get a fair trial. Barely able to conceal his racist glee in putting a white woman in her place, Chief Judge Linton Sirait smugly boasted during the trial that in 500 drug trails he had never found a defendant not guilty.
Why should we respect the barbaric legal system of one of the most corrupt nations on earth?
A recent visitor to Corby reported that the daily ration of food consists of a rancid bowl of rice with one or two prawn heads. She also reported that the squat toilet in the room was blocked, creating an overpowering stench.
:lol: And still more!The federal government should immediately employ a team of carers to visit Australians jailed in third world countries as frequently as possible to ensure their health, nutrition and safety needs are met.
Australians live in a modern civilised society. None of our citizens, guilty or not, should be subjected to the depravity of living in third world hell-holes.
Source: http://www.australian-news.com.au/Corby.htmIndonesian authorities will routinely sentence to death by firing squad persons found guilty of possessing marijuana (and all accused are found guilty), but gleefully rake off millions of dollars in taxes from the legal sale of alcohol to tourists and locals.
Azkatro said:I just love how this site manages to stay "free from the left-wing, politically correct bigotry of the majority of journalists".
:lol: :lol:
So that would include this part...NPK said:Yes, but I agree with those points you highlighted.
According to Jakarta Post:Indonesian authorities will routinely sentence to death by firing squad persons found guilty of possessing marijuana
Not one person in Indonesia, foreigner or otherwise, has been sentenced to death for trafficking marijuana.
First of all Jae , Mercede's Corby lives in QLD .
Her husband is Balinese, his family still lives there.
I've already shown you that, if it was a lie do you think she would get on national tv and say it?
I don't know about that, but I do believe there is an element of racism in the ruling. It wouldn't surprise me if the judge(s) just loved the idea of sentencing a white Australian girl. Of course I have no proof, it is just an opinion.Willow said:So that would include this part...
According to Jakarta Post:
Which one do you prefer to believe?
Plus you agreed with an article that said the Indonesian authorities are corrupt, racist, barbaric, uncivilised... and until you heard otherwise, you also believed their tale that Indonesian authorities routinely shoot people found guilty of possessing marijuana.NPK said:To me, the Indonesian judicial process lacks credibility.
lol. Thats fine, you believe whatever you like.NPK said:Of course you don't agree, but I'm not asking you too.
Fair enough, the stuff about the link I thought was misleading and I said so thats all. I realised straight after posting that it originally came from the Sunday program and I corrected. Is there a problem.
If you don't want to change the link then thats your perrogative. Just a suggestion to provide links to a credible website than one thats not. Its a non issue. I never said you were racist I said the website was and thats the link you provided.
I too have my own opinion and have posted as much. If I have disagreed with you I have also posted as much.
It has been good to see your opinion because you do back it up with links to back your claims and you make some relevent points. There is nothing personal intended in any of my posts, just putting my point of view.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1381437.htmAustralian Broadcasting Corporation
TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT
LOCATION: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1381437.htm
Broadcast: 31/05/2005
Perth QC on board for Corby appeal
Reporter: Kellie Tannock
KERRY O'BRIEN: When Shapelle Corby begins her lengthy appeal process she may be armed with a much stronger defence team than she has had in Bali. Veteran Perth QC Tom Percy has come on board, with a second silk facilitated by the Australian Government to help with the appeal. Percy is renowned for clearing the names of West Australians John Button and Daryl Beamish more than 40 years after their convictions. Both men served lengthy prison terms for murders they didn't commit. So can the boy from Kalgoorlie do the same for Schapelle Corby within the confines of Indonesia's legal system? Kellie Tannock reports.
KELLIE TANNOCK: There's no doubting the determination behind the bid to free Schapelle Corby. But the Corby clan will need more than will and bravado to successfully navigate the Indonesian appeal system.
We're gonna prove it. We're gonna prove it beyond any possible shadow of a doubt!
KELLIE TANNOCK: This is one of the men on whom Schapelle Corby's future may now depend, an Irish pub singer, racehorse owner, Aussie Rules obsessive and a renowned champion of the seemingly hopeless case.
TOM PERCY QC, BARRISTER: If there's one thing that really terrifies me and really drives me on, it's the fact that there are a number of people in jail here in Australia who are comprehensively not guilty.
KELLIE TANNOCK: It might be just the impassioned rhetoric of a long-time criminal barrister, if not for his extraordinary success in one of Australia's longest running and most infamous cases of injustice. Perth man John Button was wrongly convicted of running down and killing his girlfriend, Rosemary Anderson, in 1963, after a lovers' quarrel. Despite protesting his innocence, he was sentenced to 10 years' jail for manslaughter. Two years earlier, another Perth man, a deaf and mute petty criminal named Darryl Beamish was convicted of murdering socialite Jillian Brewer. His death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment and he served 15 years in jail. But another man confessed to both murders. Eric Edgar Cooke was arrested in 1963, and later hanged for a series of murders which terrorised Perth over 15 years. But despite his confession, both men remained in jail. It took 45 years for both men to be exonerated, and it took Tom Percy to clear their names, Button in 2002 and Beamish just last month.
JOHN BUTTON: They offered their services free of charge, to see this case fight through to the end, which they honestly believe and have absolutely optimistic about, will at some stage prove my innocence beyond doubt.
ESTELLE BLACKBURN, AUTHOR, 'BROKEN LIVES': He does wonderful pro bono work. He put hundreds of thousands of dollars of legal work into the Button and Beamish cases and he won it, where the best lawyers in the land couldn't win it 40 years ago.
KELLIE TANNOCK: Estelle Blackburn told the story of Beamish and Button in her book 'Broken Lives' which compelled Tom Percy to take on their appeals.
ESTELLE BLACKBURN: Tom Percy is the cleverest lawyer that I know. He has a mind like a steel trap. He has a great social conscience. Compassion for the underdog. He hates mob mentality.
BRET CHRISTIAN, MANAGING EDITOR, 'THE POST': He has a burning sense of justice, he wants to see the right thing done and he's quite prepared to put in the time and the effort to make sure that injustices are righted.
KELLIE TANNOCK: Journalist Bret Christian formed part of the investigative team which helped Tom Percy in the Button and Beamish appeals. He says the QC, who has spoken out many times against capital punishment, will see the Corby case through to its very last legal avenue, especially in a country where death is still a penalty.
BRET CHRISTIAN: When the death sentence is a possibility, you will find Tom doubly committed to the case.
TOM PERCY: Brought up in a Kalgoorlie pub, Tom Percy's early clients were the brothel madams and two-up operators of his home town. On his path to the silken ranks of law's elite he has defended Alan Bond and footballer Jimmy Krakouer. But it's the case now being debated in pubs and homes around Australia, that of Schapelle Corby, that may just deliver his most famous defence to date.
TOM PERCY QC: To find yourself in a foreign country, in a foreign jail, is something that really inflames people's passions, and I'm not immune from that. It's not the profile of the case but I think it's the empathy that has attracted me to the case, for just the poor girl who finds herself in that situation.
KELLIE TANNOCK: Tom Percy didn't solicit the Corby case, the Australian Government asked for his assistance for no fee, along with that of QC Mark Trowel. The two have worked together on drug cases for 25 years. It's Trowel who has the connections within Indonesia's legal system. Unable to appear in an Indonesian court, both QCs will act as advisers to Corby's Indonesian legal team. But being in the back room doesn't mean they'll take a back seat.
MARK TROWELL QC, BARRISTER: We'll provide whatever they want us to provide. I mean, we want to do it on our own terms. We're not there for window dressing. Schapelle Corby's situation is very dangerous. As has been discussed generally, I mean, she is still in great jeopardy. And we would like to assist in bringing some sort of focus as to the appeal. We think that there should be a senior Indonesian criminal advocate who would handle the appeal.
TOM PERCY QC: We're also going to review what might be available by way of fresh evidence in the case, and I couldn't discuss it now, but there are a number of leads which look reasonably promising in that regard.
KELLIE TANNOCK: What's the best case scenario for Schapelle Corby?
TOM PERCY QC: Total exoneration, and I think that's what we should be looking at at the outset. If it has to be something less at the end of the day, I'd be disappointed, but obviously as any appellate lawyer who has a client asserting their innocence, nothing but a total acquittal would suffice.
KELLIE TANNOCK: With the 20 year sentence already and the prosecution appealing for life in jail, there have been suggestions Corby should swallow her pride, admit she brought the marijuana into Bali and beg for a presidential pardon.
TOM PERCY QC: I suppose that's an option for anyone in her position.
KELLIE TANNOCK: But how does that sit with you as a principle?
TOM PERCY QC: It doesn't sit with me. Just really reluctant to look for anything other than a full acquittal when someone is asserting their innocence.
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT
LOCATION: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1381436.htm
Broadcast: 31/05/2005
Customs probe uncovers security black spots
Reporter: Jonathan Harley
KERRY O'BRIEN: But first - the nation's biggest airport is back in the spotlight tonight with a top secret Customs report revealing what they call "a hot bed of criminal activity." The leaked report claims Sydney staff with high-level security clearances, including air crew, cleaners and baggage handlers are involved in drug smuggling and stealing from passengers. News of the report, completed in early 2004, came as a major surprise to the Federal Government and the aviation industry who were all apparently kept in the dark. It's believed the Customs probe has uncovered numerous security black spots - areas of the airport which can't be captured by surveillance cameras and are reportedly exploited by staff involved in drug trafficking. Jonathan Harley reports.
SENATOR CHRIS ELLISON, CUSTOMS MINISTER: I haven't seen the report.
JOHN ANDERSON, TRANSPORT MINISTER (IN PARLIAMENT): I didn't become aware of the report until this morning.
KIM BEAZLEY, LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (IN PARLIAMENT): The complacency of the Minister is extraordinary.
JONATHAN HARLEY: It appears to be the country's best-kept secret. When the 'Australian' newspaper splashed across its front page sensational details of a classified Customs report into alleged security breaches at Sydney airport, everyone from government ministers to the nation's aviation bosses were oblivious to the report's very existence.
GEOFF ASKEW, QANTAS SECURITY CHIEF: Qantas was very surprised to read the article in The Australian this morning. We had no idea of the existence of that report.
JONATHAN HARLEY: Max Moore-Wilton, have you read the classified customs report flagged in The Australian today?
MAX MOORE-WILTON, SYDNEY AIRPORT CORPORATION: No, I have not.
JONATHAN HARLEY: Were you aware of it?
MAX MOORE-WILTON: No, I was not, not until I read The Australian.
JONATHAN HARLEY: It's startling that a document with such alarming findings was not made known to those whose job it is to protect national security and fight crime. The report details a range of serious security breaches and illegal activities across airport operations allegedly involving baggage handlers, ramp and trolley workers, security screeners, cleaners and even air crew.
KIM BEAZLEY (IN PARLIAMENT): We've got a genuine matter of urgency here on our hands, Mr Speaker, and we need an explanation of considerably more detail than we managed to get out of the Deputy Prime Minister in Question Time.
JONATHAN HARLEY: In Parliament, the Opposition seized on the report.
ROBERT McCLELLAND, OPPOSITION HOMELAND SECURITY SPOKESMAN: Well, applying again the pub test, Mr Deputy Speaker, what Australians realise is those who are most self-righteous frequently have the most to hide.
JONATHAN HARLEY: The Government tried to turn defence into attack, by accusing the Opposition of refusing to receive an official briefing on a report that none of them knew about.
JOHN ANDERSON: If he were being genuinely responsible on this, he would have sought a prior private briefing on it. He is yabbering away over there, as is his want, but he knows full well that the right thing to have done here would have been to have sought a proper briefing.
JONATHAN HARLEY: This evening, Labor has formally requested to see the report. Someone else who wants to read it is the man who runs Sydney airport.
MAX MOORE-WILTON: In all of the major criminal cases which have come to light in the last six to 12 months, they've been conducted by law enforcement agencies and they specifically have not informed Sydney airport, specifically.
JONATHAN HARLEY: Do you feel left in the dark?
MAX MOORE-WILTON: I've expressed my concern to state and federal ministers.
JONATHAN HARLEY: How forcefully?
MAX MOORE-WILTON: Well, we've expressed our concern.
JONATHAN HARLEY: There are as many as 60,000 workers here at Australia's largest airport, everything from small retailers to senior intelligence officers. They have many masters, but ultimately it's a question of who bears the responsibility for matters of national security, fighting crime and traveller safety.
MAX MOORE-WILTON: The great majority of people work for the airlines, and ground handling companies and contractors, and they are subject to regulations set by the Federal and State Government. Let's be 100 per cent clear about that.
GEOFF ASKEW: We have no information or evidence to suggest that there actually is organised crime occurring at Sydney airport.
JONATHAN HARLEY: Australia's biggest airline, Qantas, was also unaware of the alarming allegations but says it will do whatever is asked of it.
GEOFF ASKEW: And I think we need to do what's necessary to restore the public's confidence. We will - we will, Qantas, support any initiative by the government to introduce screening of staff going to the workplace at the major airports.
JONATHAN HARLEY: The Customs report alleges that 39 security screeners out of 500 at Sydney airport have a serious criminal conviction. Two Customs operations dubbed Tempest and Berlap have focused on criminal links, such as the alleged cocaine smuggling racket busted by police earlier this month. But inevitably, it raises questions about security against terrorism.
KIM BEAZLEY: Logically, if you can move drugs around an airport, logically, if you can move things around an airport, then there in logic there must be the possibility that you can move semtex around by the same show.
SENATOR CHRIS ELLISON: There are a number of investigations under way. I can't comment on those investigations. We are taking this very seriously, but it's not cause for public panic in relation to travelling, in fact, I'd say to the Australian public that they should not panic and that they can rest assured that we have safe and secure skies.
JONATHAN HARLEY: Nearly eight months after Schapelle Corby was arrested, what began as a trickle of concerns about Australian airport security is now threatening to become a torrent.
MAX MOORE-WILTON: There is community concern. We need to stringently review the current measures, and see whether any more can be done and that's what I understand the authorities are doing. Sydney airport will cooperate with that. But the fundamental responsibility for law enforcement and terrorism enforcement rests with government.
KERRY O'BRIEN: Jonathan Harley with a story that seems to just keep growing.