Should the Dolphins debut be delayed to 2024?

[Perth Red]

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They'll do better than reds & crushers..

Let’s see, in a 20 team comp Reds finished 11th first year. Dolphins would need to finish 9th to match that.

 

[Pippen94]

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Let’s see, in a 20 team comp Reds finished 11th first year. Dolphins would need to finish 9th to match that.

..& died after three seasons. Yeah, dolphins will do better than that

 

[Perth Red]

..& died after three seasons. Yeah, dolphins will do better than that

Well heck you’d hope so lol. Or maybe a once in a Century war will break out over tv rights ripping the game apart and seeing a number of clubs annihilated in the aftermath.

You’ve said some dumb sht but that’s up there.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It's time to face reality: It is now June 2022, and the Dolphins are expected to be a fully functional, up and running League team with at least a top 21 players by November. That's 5 months.......Do any of us really see that happening? With where they're at right now? With the distraction of the World Cup waiting around the corner for a lot of players and coaches?

It might be time for the NRL to own up to blowing their load early on this. Right now we're dooming the Dolphins to a dead last finish for maybe their first 2 or 3 seasons until they can actually lure some players of worth. For my part I think they need another 12 months in the oven to make sure they can actually put up some sort of a fight, rather than start off as an embarrassment that nobody wants to support, basically the Titans 2.0. It's going to cause issues with the broadcast deal but what would the networks prefer: A team that can perform that actually draws viewers, or a cellar dweller with no profile and no history that couldn't fill a barn house with spectators?

No history?

Redcliffe were around long before your mob showed up in 1988.

If you're so worried then send Adam Reynolds and Selwyn Cobbo to The Dolphins.

 

[MugaB]

Typical bull in a China shop Vlandys. No Strategy, no investment, no idea.
Should have been two year build time and salary cap concessions to sign players outside current nrl plus relocation allowances for first two seasons. But no rush them and watch them be a basket case for first few years. You’d think they’d have learnt something from the titans.

Whats another 6 months gonna do? Who cares, wheres this deadline of roster management? Its not like they are going to kick off next year and not field the team just coz Munster isnt there, youve all got rox in ur head, the way everyone talks down the roster is as if it were a world cup event that happens once every 4 years, the dolphins are here to stay forever... in 10 years from now, caring which merkin goes there won't matter, they be talking about, whos going to fill a perth team

 

[Iamback]

Whats another 6 months gonna do? Who cares, wheres this deadline of roster management? Its not like they are going to kick off next year and not field the team just coz Munster isnt there, youve all got rox in ur head, the way everyone talks down the roster is as if it were a world cup event that happens once every 4 years, the dolphins are here to stay forever... in 10 years from now, caring which merkin goes there won't matter, they be talking about, whos going to fill a perth team

Yeah they have a good mix of old heads and kids. Elite coach and pathways in place

Nothing to gain by holding it out

 

[Pippen94]

Well heck you’d hope so lol. Or maybe a once in a Century war will break out over tv rights ripping the game apart and seeing a number of clubs annihilated in the aftermath.

You’ve said some dumb sht but that’s up there.

Dolphins saw their entire competition become 2nd rate after creation of broncos, but still kept kicking & growing to point of being accepted into NRL. Difference between plastic club & one with roots in community

 

[yakstorm]

If it was true the tv deal would have been $423mill a year but it isn’t, it’s $403mill.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting this $403m figure from? It's not a figure I'm seeing in any releases, media articles or even annual reports.

 

[Iamback]

Brenko Lee added. Another rep player added to this side... Yep keep them back 12 months

 

[Perth Red]

If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting this $403m figure from? It's not a figure I'm seeing in any releases, media articles or even annual reports.

Jump over to the media section, all the details are laid out in there. Nrl announced a deal of “just over” $2billion for 5 years
$130mill nine
$32.8mill skynz
$240mill fox

 

[Perth Red]

Dolphins saw their entire competition become 2nd rate after creation of broncos, but still kept kicking & growing to point of being accepted into NRL. Difference between plastic club & one with roots in community

so dolphins we’re kicked out of the top flight and had to survive with no revenue and no pokie den? Nah didn’t think so.
We’ve got nrlwa clubs as old as the dolphins.

 

[Pippen94]

so dolphins we’re kicked out of the top flight and had to survive with no revenue and no pokie den? Nah didn’t think so.
We’ve got nrlwa clubs as old as the dolphins.

Yeah, brl was top flight until 1988 & after it was not. Dolphins had roots in community, while reds were just some marketing creation

 

[Pippen94]

If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting this $403m figure from? It's not a figure I'm seeing in any releases, media articles or even annual reports.

He just makes up shi..

 

[mongoose]

I think there is too much focus on their roster . Didn't the Titans have a bunch of marquee players when they started? - Prince, Campbell, Bailey, Rogers? didn't help them much in the long run. There is a lot of different variables and things that contribute to a successful club than just what the roster looks like.

 

[Perth Red]

Yeah, brl was top flight until 1988 & after it was not. Dolphins had roots in community, while reds were just some marketing creation

Like Raiders, Knights, Panthers, Sharks, Broncos, Storm, Titans, Warriors lol. Every clubs history starts somewhere. If Sl hadnt happened Reds would now be 28 years old. Would they still be a 'plastic' club? Maybe they should have promoted North Beach or South Perth instead in 1995 lol.

 

[Perth Red]

He just makes up shi..

for a so called fan of the NRL you dont seem to know much!

 

[Pippen94]

Like Raiders, Knights, Panthers, Sharks, Broncos, Storm, Titans, Warriors lol. Every clubs history starts somewhere. If Sl hadnt happened Reds would now be 28 years old. Would they still be a 'plastic' club? Maybe they should have promoted North Beach or South Perth instead in 1995 lol.

If they had fans would've survived

 

[Pippen94]

for a so called fan of the NRL you dont seem to know much!

Nah, everybody knows the bs you pedal. Overstating popularity of game in Perth & underestimating media deal to suit ur purposes..

 

[Perth Red]

I think there is too much focus on their roster . Didn't the Titans have a bunch of marquee players when they started? - Prince, Campbell, Bailey, Rogers? didn't help them much in the long run. There is a lot of different variables and things that contribute to a successful club than just what the roster looks like.

I think they should go ok, and by ok I mean not be wooden spooners for their first three years. Id expect them to be around 10th with that pack, higher if they can land Munster and Walsh. They will be rebuilding pretty much from day one anyway given the age of most of the pack they have signed so by year 4 they will have replaced half the squad. I still thin with an extra year to sign two lots of players off contract plus some concessions for signing outside the NRL then we could have seen a better outcome. How many people are going to trek from the north to Suncorp to see a team getting beaten most weeks? If they only draw 10-15k in their couple of years and bounce along at the bottom it'll be seen as a bit of a disaster and could set expansion back even further.
Anyone on here from Brisbane feeling much hype or seeing much promotion of Dolphins and memberships etc in the city area? How's the Brisbane media covering them?

 

[Perth Red]

Nah, everybody knows the bs you pedal. Overstating popularity of game in Perth & underestimating media deal to suit ur purposes..

So come on Einstein how much was the tv deal for?