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Old Timer

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I think you need to re-read your own posts.

You made that assumption about rehabilitating an innocent man, that has nothing to do with my positioning, which I put to you before you admitted innocence.

Keep up..
What a load of old codswallop and the usual obfuscation on your part.
You need to read your own posts and understand the inferences that you make and you need to be far less selective in referencing old posts.
For the record I didn’t miss your slight to my integrity when you used the word “claim” low tactic on your part.
Anyway in the end you really aren’t worth the effort so by all means keep living out your fantasy.
 

muzby

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What a load of old codswallop and the usual obfuscation on your part.
You need to read your own posts and understand the inferences that you make and you need to be far less selective in referencing old posts.
For the record I didn’t miss your slight to my integrity when you used the word “claim” low tactic on your part.
Anyway in the end you really aren’t worth the effort so by all means keep living out your fantasy.
Lol...

I’m sorry that you’ve been caught out again putting on field results ahead of societal issues, but there’s no need to get abusive when it happens..
 

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Lol...

I’m sorry that you’ve been caught out again putting on field results ahead of societal issues, but there’s no need to get abusive when it happens..
“Caught out”
I look forward to how you reconcile that
 

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I’m not the one who needs to.. My moral compass points in the right direction..
You really love besmirching people with no evidence to back it up other than your own misguided thought process and amateur psychology skills which repeatedly draw inaccurate and false conclusions.
You claim your moral compass is in the right direction thus inferring mine is in the wrong direction, well you are being called out as to how you come to that conclusion based on the contents of the posts in question.
 

muzby

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You really love besmirching people with no evidence to back it up other than your own misguided thought process and amateur psychology skills which repeatedly draw inaccurate and false conclusions.
You claim your moral compass is in the right direction thus inferring mine is in the wrong direction, well you are being called out as to how you come to that conclusion based on the contents of the posts in question.
Wow.. Look at that post.. Who’s the amateur psychologist?

I assume your next question will be about my relationship with my parents..?

But to answer your question and avoid another hissyfit, I draw the conclusion about your moral compass as you place results in a football field ahead of societal issues.
 

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Wow.. Look at that post.. Who’s the amateur psychologist?

I assume your next question will be about my relationship with my parents..?

But to answer your question and avoid another hissyfit, I draw the conclusion about your moral compass as you place results in a football field ahead of societal issues.
For the umpteenth time explain from the posts how you draw that offensive conclusion.
Don't just make a bland statement put all the evidence behind it to substantiate your position.
Or just admit this is how you cover up when you have made a complete and utter merkin of yourself.
 

muzby

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For the umpteenth time explain from the posts how you draw that offensive conclusion.
Don't just make a bland statement put all the evidence behind it to substantiate your position.
Or just admit this is how you cover up when you have made a complete and utter merkin of yourself.
You want me to explain it again?

Why should I have to put in more work to compensate for your clear lack of comprehension?

BTW you’re psychoanalysing again..
 

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You want me to explain it again?

Why should I have to put in more work to compensate for your clear lack of comprehension?

BTW you’re psychoanalysing again..
About what one would expect from you.
A man of little if in fact not any substance at all.
Happy to besmirch people and accuse them of all and sundry but provide no evidence whatsoever.
Of course you always look for and in fact encourage the angry response and no doubt tug off when it comes your way.
No doubt you have a room full of bats and balls because you would have taken home plenty.
 

muzby

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About what one would expect from you.
A man of little if in fact not any substance at all.
Happy to besmirch people and accuse them of all and sundry but provide no evidence whatsoever.
Of course you always look for and in fact encourage the angry response and no doubt tug off when it comes your way.
No doubt you have a room full of bats and balls because you would have taken home plenty.
More amateur psychology from you..
 

Old Timer

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More amateur psychology from you..
Oh the parrot is sweating on replies so he can show he is a good mimic.
The evidence is there for all to see I'll let others make a judgement.
Give me your address and Ill send you some antiseptic wipes as a Christmas present so you can wipe your hands after you tug off.
 

muzby

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Oh the parrot is sweating on replies so he can show he is a good mimic.
The evidence is there for all to see I'll let others make a judgement.
Give me your address and Ill send you some antiseptic wipes as a Christmas present so you can wipe your hands after you tug off.
Lol.. Calm down before you give yourself a heart attack..

I’m sorry that you get worked up after being called out, but that’s for you to process..

Do you even know what you’re angry about?
 

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Lol.. Calm down before you give yourself a heart attack..

I’m sorry that you get worked up after being called out, but that’s for you to process..

Do you even know what you’re angry about?
Gotta love the way you try to diffuse your overall stupidity and asinine behaviour.
You love to think that you make people angry with your behaviour.
Well sadly I have to disappoint you by telling you that you don't make me angry at all.
However I must admit I do love to watch you flounder and thrash around trying to come back with smart arse responses in an effort to try and gain the upper hand.
You obviously subscribe to the theory he who laughs last, laughs longest.
 

muzby

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Gotta love the way you try to diffuse your overall stupidity and asinine behaviour.
You love to think that you make people angry with your behaviour.
Well sadly I have to disappoint you by telling you that you don't make me angry at all.
However I must admit I do love to watch you flounder and thrash around trying to come back with smart arse responses in an effort to try and gain the upper hand.
You obviously subscribe to the theory he who laughs last, laughs longest.
More psychoanalysis...

But still, if this isn’t anger, do you even know what you’re ranting on about?

I’m happy to dial it back a few hours to my initial question to help you out...

Why did you say we should have stood by Fonua-Blake after he was convicted, but cut JDB loose before he’s had his time in court?
 

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More psychoanalysis...

But still, if this isn’t anger, do you even know what you’re ranting on about?

I’m happy to dial it back a few hours to my initial question to help you out...

Why did you say we should have stood by Fonua-Blake after he was convicted, but cut JDB loose before he’s had his time in court?
Jack is innocent of all charges at this point in time but unable to play football so the answer as previously stated is commercial reality.
We are paying a man unable to play and in fact he is costing us dearly as we have a squad of 29 not 30 before injuries and fatigue kick in.
 

muzby

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Jack is innocent of all charges at this point in time but unable to play football so the answer as previously stated is commercial reality.
We are paying a man unable to play and in fact he is costing us dearly as we have a squad of 29 not 30 before injuries and fatigue kick in.
So.. As I said your position on Jack is based on the impact of our performance on the field (or as you put it, commercial reality)..

So why then have you changed your position from this one, where you disagreed with sacking AFB on a commercial basis?

For me I would have like to see us help AFB and his family as that is in my nature to try and let people make it back into society.
I can understand if the club had sacked him immediately even whilst not agreeing with that action.
I can in fact understand the club making a commercial decision providing it outlined its case for doing so even though I don't agree with that action either.
What I can't understand is how they were willing to wait 6 months to dump him for something they already knew he was guilty of and I can't comprehend how people can possibly think the club didn't know.
My contention has always been if we spent 6 months doing stuff with him why would you not keep going after the sentencing?
We will do what we have to do for 6 months but then you can get stuffed and your out on your ear because the judge said your guilty just doesn't cut it with me I'm afraid whereas I can understand commercial reality whilst not agreeing with it.

You’re allowed to change your opinion on something.. I’m just curious as to what happened to swing you so far from one side of the argument to the other?
 

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So.. As I said your position on Jack is based on the impact of our performance on the field (or as you put it, commercial reality)..

So why then have you changed your position from this one, where you disagreed with sacking AFB on a commercial basis?



You’re allowed to change your opinion on something.. I’m just curious as to what happened to swing you so far from one side of the argument to the other?
Your just really don't get it or maybe you do and just don't admit it.
AFB pled guilty to charges and was given a pathway as to when he could return to the NRL so all things were on the table and his contrition was deserving of rehabilitation. No commercial decision was made but as I said I could understand it if they had made it whilst not agreeing with it.
JDB at this time is guilty of nothing but unable to play with no certainty around when he can play so the commercial reality is no different to if he had a long term injury.
His future is clouded with no certainty and the club suffers as a result of that so make a hard nosed decision and get someone in the squad who can play. Keeping in mind we are down a high quality rep footballer for an entire season plus.
Commercial reality is not always the outcome you would like but is more than often the most sensible from a business perspective.
 

muzby

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Your just really don't get it
I’ll just leave that there..
Your just really don't get it or maybe you do and just don't admit it.
AFB pled guilty to charges and was given a pathway as to when he could return to the NRL so all things were on the table and his contrition was deserving of rehabilitation. No commercial decision was made but as I said I could understand it if they had made it whilst not agreeing with it.
JDB at this time is guilty of nothing but unable to play with no certainty around when he can play so the commercial reality is no different to if he had a long term injury.
His future is clouded with no certainty and the club suffers as a result of that so make a hard nosed decision and get someone in the squad who can play. Keeping in mind we are down a high quality rep footballer for an entire season plus.
Commercial reality is not always the outcome you would like but is more than often the most sensible from a business perspective.
As mentioned to you(r) hours ago, you’re happy to accept a guilty man with open arms but willing to discard a potentially innocent man to the scrap heap.

This makes no sense.

You also clearly stated in your defence of AFB that you believed it was commercial but that you disagreed with making a commercial decision to discard a player.

They’re your words, there in writing.

I’m just curious to know why you’ve changed your position.


As also mentioned to you(r) hours ago, the reason Jack can’t play is due to the NRL, not the Dragons. Sacking him at this point would leave us open to a legal case with more commercial ramifications than keeping him.

How do you not get this?
 

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