Skandalis

[innsaneink]

On the whole Brook thing::

EA isn't she allowed to have an opinion? I'm sick of whenever Brook (or another Balmain/Western Suburbs fan) saying something not positive about a Western Suburbs player get shot down! Isn't a Balmain fan allowed to have an opinion on a Western Suburbs player that isn't 100% positive? Should we all be scared of voicing our opinion because we know you will call us bias?

No, definately not, everyone is allowed an opinion. But everyone's opinion that is posted here is subject to comment. And if I think brook's opinion stems from her club bias, I'll say it.

I wasn't the only one that thought that either.

brook came into this thread and immediately was negative about a Wests Tigers player who has just been picked to play Reps.

No fan from another club has been as negative about Skando as she was.

I'd also point out that brook's allegiances aren't in question, she is a Balmain supporter and her primary focus is on the teams under FG.

Than I see you have a go at Robbie Farah, who I think has played well in his limited oppurtunity in first grade. However youre entitled to your opinion so me, as an adult, respect your opinion and am happy for you to show it!

You missed the point.

brook was talking Farah up as a "champion in the making", yet he is still unproven in First Grade. He is also not a regular First Grade player as yet.

Skando is and on Friday night will play a match that is one step from Origin. Robbie Farah generally plays the match that is one step from First Grade.

If Farah deserves respect and support from the fans of this Club before actually earning it, why doesn't Skando deserve support and respect?
Because he's a Wests Junior?

This is the point I was trying to make with the two examples of brooks post re; Farah & Skando positive, negative opinion/prediction.

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This is total and utter crap. EA, I respect some of what you say mate, but are you just look for a blue or what?

Insan you're just a tool.

Several points
- Skandalis is not a blockbusting prop. He's integral to our team, no doubt about that. Our best player this season. He wouldn't dissapoint in origin in my opinion (that's where I disagree with Brook), however I do think there are better options that hit the line harder and are thus more suitable for origin.

- Calling Brook biased is ridiculous. Of course she has a soft spot for the Balmain juniors - she goes to every bloody match she can get to standalone or on before FG. Something i'm sure you do not do, so who the hell are you to critisize? The reason she is more likely to call for a Balmain player to make the step up is because those are the games she WATCHES. Often Brook'll say i'm sure there's plenty of deserving magpies players as well.

- Note in another thread Brook has called Hodgson outstanding this year, advocating him for fullback if mini is injured.

And finally, just to defend Robbie, I think he's been extremely good in his limited first grade. He's kicking hasn't been brilliant, but he's being eased into first grade and will find his feet with time. And when he does, it'll be nice to have the Australian hooker again

Tool?
Why are you sure I dont go to stand alone games?
Proves just how wrong you are, and Brook will know I go to Balmain stand alone games as I've posted things about those games that only someone being there woulda known. I'm sure I dont go to as many as she does but thats irrelevant.
I also go to many Wests Tigers games as well.....as many as "I can get to", :roll: when you start using facts instead of guessing...........then, and only then can you say "I'm sure", about something. You reckon me calling Brook biased is ridiculous?
I think that you, assuming that I do or do not do something when you dont know me nor have ever even met me...I think thats whats ridiculous.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

I dont see what him being a Wests junior has to do with anything.......its a lame old excuse really.I thought we were over this stuff,and now its been dredged up again.

Brook doesnt think Skando has what it takes to beat other candidates for SOO....."oh,she hates Wests"......but she openly champions players like Bryce Gibbs and Brett Hodgson....guess what,they are both Wests juniors.

If there is any bias here,its on your behalf,jumping the gun and drawing conclusion to conspiracies that dont even exist......

The scarey thing is,there are more than one of you......... #-o #-o #-o

And there's a few of you too.

Like brook, tigger etc.

I'm just glad most of them consider themselves Balmain supporters....

There's no conspiracy. brook won't be back in this thread because she knows that what I said about her anti-Wests bias is true.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

brook was talking Farah up as a "champion in the making", yet he is still unproven in First Grade. He is also not a regular First Grade player as yet.

What does 'in the making' mean to you??

:roll:

Potentially.

Potentially everyone is a champion. But not everyone makes it who has potential. My stance is that Skando deserves respect because he's past the "potential" stage and is an established First Grader and a Rep player.

I don't have the same resepct for Farah that I have for Skando for that reason. But other people seem to have the respect around the other way. They are willing to criticise Skando's ability to handle Origin when the bloke hasn't even played Origin yet and in his only rep game to date, he was MOM.

Does that make sense to you?

 

[Anonymous]

That wasn't even addressed to you insan.

Brook is only being negative in the context of Skando for origin. There's a big difference. She called him our best player this year in another post.


Besides she's allowed to have personal favourite players without you 2 smerkins calling her biased against the magpie side of the JV.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

smerkins?

hahahahahaha

Shaddap poo poo head.

 

[brook]

lol I wasn't going to post in here but this is incredible

I don't think Riddell is origin class either, despite never having seen him in origin, and he's one of my favourite non-tiger players

Are you honestly saying you can't judge a players suitability for certain levels of representative football without having seen them play there first?

Right - Corey Pearson for Australian prop and anyone saying otherwise is just biased cause he's a balmain junior :roll:

Do yourself a favour - check out Skandos stats from the penrith game - then have a look at webke and O'Meley from yesterdays match

then tell me there isn't a clear class difference.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

No, I'm sure you're a great judge of a player's suitability for rep football brook. Unilke the selectors.

Are you telling me that in your considered opinion, players don't rise to the occasion when put into Origin?

Corey Pearson?

hahahahahahaha

Tigger said he was a better prop than Skando ever will be and he can't even get in Parramatta's run on side.

Webke and O'Meley played in a bruising forward battle as proven by the fact that all 7 tries were scored by forwards.

Forward don't tend to miss blokes running at them they miss blokes who are running around or away from them.

Skando: 31 tackles, 23 hitups, 1 offload, 5 missed tackles, 0 errors.
O'Meley: 22 tackles, 24 hitups, 0 offloads, 3 missed tackles, 0 errors.
Webke: 28 tacklers, 16 hitups, 3 offloads, 1 missed tackle, 2 errors.

Well?

Go back to the match prior to their second rep matches and we'll compare notes then.

 

[Anonymous]

What are the metres made. If average metre gain for skando is higher or near webke I will (and probably others) eat my words.


EA just try to remember we'd all love to see skando make origin. Some of just don't think he will or should be selected. He does miss an awful lots of tackles...

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Skando - 163 metres / 23 carries = 7.08
Webke - 137 / 16 = 8.5
O'Meley - 185 / 22 = 8.40

But, the week before...

Webke 66/10 = 6.6 (v Penrith)
O'Meley 247/24 = 10.29 (v Souths)
Skando 181/21 = 8.60 (v Manly)

Doesn't look too bad to me.

It's easy to stick with the positive or the negative on raw stats. Neither Webke or O'Meley are playing with a lightweight pack with no rep players like Skando is.

 

[brook]

What are the metres made. If average metre gain for skando is higher or near webke I will (and probably others) eat my words.

My point exactly

and the selectors almost certainly won't pick skando for origin - so I guess its not me thats claiming to know better than them

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

So brook, why is he playing Friday night then, because the selectors feel sorry for him?

Deadset, you are borderline geniused at times.

Memo to John Skandalis:

brook says you're no chance for Origin Skando and she's a real expert. Don't bother playing C v C mate, just play for Balmain on the weekend in Premier League. At least that way when you do 35 tackles and 25 hitups, she mightn't bag you too much.

If Skando is playing in a rep pack, which he has done once before, he produced.

How about you wait until after Friday night to bag the guy's prospects fo Origin.

Have a little class for once.

 

[Once Dead]

So brook, why is he playing Friday night then, because the selectors feel sorry for him?

Deadset, you are borderline geniused at times.

Memo to John Skandalis:

brook says you're no chance for Origin Skando and she's a real expert. Don't bother playing C v C mate, just play for Balmain on the weekend in Premier League. At least that way when you do 35 tackles and 25 hitups, she mightn't bag you too much.

If Skando is playing in a rep pack, which he has done once before, he produced.

How about you wait until after Friday night to bag the guy's prospects fo Origin.

Have a little class for once.

Take your own advice mate

 

[innsaneink]

We're getting warmer.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

:lol:

Impellitteri, I'm bagging a nickname on a noticeboard, not a person who gives his heart and soul every week for the Rugby League club that I follow.

Faceless, mindless......

 

[851]

Thirdly, Luke Bailey was picked for Origin at a time when I thought he was a pretty good prop, but probably not up to Origin. He stepped up that night because he as given the chance. Skando deserves the same opportunity.

Fourthly, the Balmain people who aren't blinkered and have posted in here seem to disagree with you and brook.

If you pick a guy and he doesn't step up, you don't pick him again. From memory, Skando played one match for City two years ago and had a blinder.

Club loyalty aside, Skando, if he does it again this Friday should at least be on the bench for Origin. And so should Lance Thompson for exactly the same reasons. They've been playing well for so long it's hard to pinpoint their last bad match.

And, if they haven't played Origin, no-one, not even "experts" like you and brook know how they'll go playing Origin.

Thank God you aren't selectors.[/quote]
Spot on mate,could not have said it better myself.

 

[Once Dead]

:lol:

Impellitteri, I'm bagging a nickname on a noticeboard, not a person who gives his heart and soul every week for the Rugby League club that I follow.

Faceless, mindless......

We're not bagging him either, its just commenting and having an opinion, which obviously you are doing the same........just because opinions differ doesn't mean you bag a nickname a noticeboard just because its not real-life etc, faceless, mindless ring a bell?

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Yeah, and brook is such a stand up supporter of the Wests Tigers.

"He's not up to Origin standard".

Is bagging him.

I find it quite distasteful that a so called Wests Tigers supporter is critical of someone even they call our best player.

And yes, after spending time in the Wests Tigers forum and putting up with the nonsense there from the blinkered Balmain supporters, I'll be critical of them here if they show the same type of stupidity.

If the comment was made about a player from any other club, I wouldn't have said a word. But I'm sure that club's supporters would do the same as we're doing.

Defending him.

 

[simon says]

Wow,I thought we all got on pretty well in the Official forum.......

Conspiracy number 2433........

And yes, after spending time in the Wests Tigers forum and putting up with the nonsense there from the blinkered Balmain supporters

On Skandy,Id love to see him get picked.But I think he has got buckleys.I must have my Balmain blinkers on :lol: :lol: .Getting picked as a reserve for city/country is a pretty big clue(if ya ask me).

Id still love the big feller to get a chance,I know he would not dissapoint,but Im not geting my hopes up.

 

[brook]

Yeah, and brook is such a stand up supporter of the Wests Tigers.

"He's not up to Origin standard".

Is bagging him.

I find it quite distasteful that a so called Wests Tigers supporter is critical of someone even they call our best player.

you're kidding aren't you?

I don't think Mark O'Neil, Darren Senter, Dene Halatau, Bryce Gibbs (yet), Anthony Laffranchi, Daniel Fitzhenry or Ben Galea are up to origin standard either - and the first 5 of those are my favourite players in the wests tigers team

I don't accept the notion that to be a supporter of the wests tigers I must believe every player in our club is worthy of australian selection. I believe we have two players (Hodgson and Prince) who are up to playing state of origin and a handful more that will be at that class eventually - so I guess I'm no supporter of the wests tigers at all :roll:

But I guess by that standard I'm no Balmain supporter either 'cause I've said plenty of times that I don't think the majority of our squad will ever be up to first grade standard...I don't consider that bagging the players 'cause 99% of them are very good at their level.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Don't be so wet Simon.

There's no conspiracy, The Wests Tigers forum is a joke, it's no secret. It's nothing but a Balmain/Wests lower grade forum.