Slater or Hayne

[WaznTheGreat]

People still saying Hayne is inconsistent,LOL.

He was brilliant against the Storm,brilliant against the Sea Eagles(twice),brilliant against the Doggies(twice),brilliant against the Cowboys(twice),brilliant against the Panthers


8 games off the top of my head without even thinking about the rest,he is more consistent then Billy SLATER EASILY.

 

[stormbati]

People still saying Hayne is inconsistent,LOL.

He was brilliant against the Storm,brilliant against the Sea Eagles(twice),brilliant against the Doggies(twice),brilliant against the Cowboys(twice),brilliant against the Panthers


8 games off the top of my head without even thinking about the rest,he is more consistent then Billy SLATER EASILY.

That's good but try doing it week after week year after year and actually have some impact in a Grand Final.

 

[Schiltzenberger]

That's good but try doing it week after week year after year and actually have some impact in a Grand Final.

It's no good, they're in denial.
I think I will avoid the Eels forum for a while now, I've just been told Hayne was always in the right position.:crazy:

Most of the Eels fans on this site are deadset morons, there's a few of us that have some clue, but the majority have no idea.

I love Parra but it doesn't mean I can't see flaws in some players. Hell I can understand people being fanboys but some are in total denial.

 

[CliffyIsGod]

Despite the scoreline, Hayne still had a great game. Hayne is as consistent as they come, it's just that the majority of Parra players are as inconsistent as they come.

He scored a great solo try, put Tahu in a roaring gap, ran down that centre...

 

[Moffo]

Despite the scoreline, Hayne still had a great game. Hayne is as consistent as they come, it's just that the majority of Parra players are as inconsistent as they come.

He scored a great solo try, put Tahu in a roaring gap, ran down that centre...

you are a goose, much like your idol

 

[boxhead]

As a fullback, Slater is still better....
But as a player? Hayne for mine.
To me, and a tonne of experts in the NRL (as well as veterans), Jarryd Hayne as all the skills of Andrew Johns, Darren Lockyer, Billy Slater, etc, etc rolled into one, and is super strong and pretty darn fast.

Jarryd gets my vote because he is still very young and is potentially the most talented player in the world, and can do things other players can't even dream of.....i.e. it can takes years and years for some players to even have a go at the no-look pass and all these other skills; Jarryd Hayne already has all of those skills, and is constantly improving as the years go by.

Still, as fullbacks go, Slater is the more traditional and more suited to the role.....but we will wait and see when we can look back on both their careers and THEN decide who is the better player; as it stands, I would gladly take either player in my team.

 

[Billythekid]

okay i will try and post without being to bias...

okay hayne isnt the best positioned in defence but to say that slater would have stopped those tries... your kidding right? Hayne was not in position to stop them.... why?
As the defence in front of him should have made those stops. I personally dont think ANY fullback would have stopped those.
Yes his positioning isnt the best... but those tries were a result in poor play from the whole TEAM.

Did you even watch the game? Two of the tries he let in were off kicks. How was the defense in front supposed to stop that? Any other fullback would have made those stops, Haynes positioning was terrible.

There was also the kick down field where he let the opposition get to the ball before he did and almost gave away another try.

The line breaks where he didn't get anywhere near the players are debatable. Yes he didn't do as good as some other fullbacks like Slater but i think a lot of fullbacks struggle there.

The poor positioning off kicks isn't debatable.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

How many games has Billy Slater cost Australia with geniused mistakes,he is a plodder.

 

[netic]

Why are some parra fans just morons....honestly....even the commentators comment on how bad his positioning is........for gods sake that break that Aubusson made which was by memory over 30 metres + out he didnt even touch him until he crossed the tryline, any other fullback would of slid over with the ball and seen that the pass was gonna be thrown and prepared for a running player busting through the line.

He was on the other side of the field when the break was made, he was in line with the play the ball still, he hadnt moved at all

 

[JJ]

depends on who's around them in the team... Parramatta rely on Hayne for everything... not sure Slater could do that... but in a team with quality halves, Slater, and clearly he's the better traditional fullback... but he's a grubby little sh*t, so I take Hayne on principle

 

[simostorm]

Slater is not only the best fullback.. but best player in the world at the moment.. and by a mile..

 

[Avenger]

Slater is not only the best fullback.. but best player in the world at the moment.. and by a mile..

Thurston is, if not Hayne.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Thurston is a myth and Billy Slater is not even in the top 5 players in the NRL

 

[the Lock8]

Jarrod Hayne is the Greg Lougainis of the NRL. He's a diver. The only thing he has going for him is speed. Slater is a thoroughbred with a proven track record for consistency and reliability over years. Hayne can't even be relied upon to bring one shoe for each foot to a game. Slater is acknowledged as probably the best ever fullback by a lot of players both past and present. Now you Hayne groupies can live in denial if you like, but until your little diver puts in consistent complete seasons, one after the other, then he is just another flash in the pan.

 

[Eelementary]

When we win, it's all Hayne and nobody else.

When we lose, it's all Hayne and nobody else.


???

He didn't deserve a 9 out of 10 against the Roosters. But he wasn't awful, either. He wasn't brilliant positionally and whatnot, but he tried hard and was the only bloke in the Parramatta 17 actually having a red hot go. I'd say a 6 or 6.5 out of 10 would be a fair assessment.

My point is that, yes - the media wanks on about him too much. Yes, Slater (IMO) is the better all around fullback right now. But Jarryd Hayne (when he doesn't do dumb sh*t like take a dive or milk a penalty) is a very good footballer and a joy to watch.

And honestly, with the "state" the game was in a little while ago, with Tahu, Gasnier, SBW, Tuqiri, Rogers, Sailor, etc. all leaving the code, isn't having a guy like him putting bums on seat worth it? After all, he's advertising rugby league - the greatest game of all.

 

[dollyhands]

After the Roosters game the votes for Hayne stopped almost dead, while Slaters kept moving along. Wonder what will happen if Hayne has a blinder this weekend?? Will there be enough voters left to bring him back to even???

 

[Eelementary]

After the Roosters game the votes for Hayne stopped almost dead, while Slaters kept moving along. Wonder what will happen if Hayne has a blinder this weekend?? Will there be enough voters left to bring him back to even???

I'd simplify it further - if the Eels beat the Gold Coast, the Hayne bandwagon will swing back into full force.

I know we don't exactly have great halves, and 95% of our attack honestly does stem from Hayne. But when we have won recently, our forwards were just bloody outstanding. Against the Dogs when we scored off the first set of the game, our forwards made plenty of metres, which in turn allowed Hayne to do his thing. But the Roosters pack dominated ours, and so Hayne was seemingly less effective.

All I am saying is he is playing good football in an inconsistent side. Slater is playing consistently good football in a consistently good side. Who is the better fullback? IMO, Slater. But would I swap him for Hayne? Absolutely not.

 

[Dave Q]

Billy Slater....he's just about the ultimate footballing machine.

Hayne is also magnificent, breathtaking even.... but on balance, just a few metres behind the kid.

Ladies, we are blessed to see these two super-heroes play our game.

 

[mrpwnd]

:lol:
So you take the stats for ONE game....when Melb was playing aginst a top four team ...
& compare it to ONE Parra game against cellar dwellars
Once again :lol:

You see that?Read it again and tell me you understand what you are saying.
I don't think 'a team well over the cap' vs a top 4 team constitutes towards anything.

 

[mrpwnd]

That's good but try doing it week after week year after year and actually have some impact in a Grand Final.

I think all the calls about Slaters apparent consistency really can be scrapped to an extent. I rate him as a brilliant full back theres no doubt, but everything he has done is on the back of:
a team over the cap
a superior origin side
the best national team in league
to think that this kind of debate is happening despite Hayne's situation is pretty amazing. Lets look shall we?:
team under the cap, has to carry them on most occasions
sh*t origin side, again has to carry them to an extent...from the wing-_-

Still think that 'week after week' 'year after year' or even 'impact in a GF' has any weight to it? Please, until you can prove me wrong on ANY of the above i'm perfectly within my own bounds to label Hayne more consistent and the better fullback. Again, don't like it? Then please, try to prove me wrong.