Slater or Hayne

[Desert Qlder]

Both blessed with remarkable physical attributes that are completely different from one another.

Both benefit from their supreme arrogance and ability to think on a football field.

Both have improved their game as they have matured and consistently become better players.

Both fantastic to watch and easily above any other fullback over the last ten years.

Unfortunately the quality of their sides stand in sharp disparity. But this is no slight on Hayne.

Summation - I have enjoyed watching them both equally over the years, though I think Hayne will delight for a few more to come.

 

[hineyrulz]

If we aren't considering age, and we are just picking a player at the peak of their powers, then without a doubt it is Hayne.
If we are picking on current form, then it is Hayne.
If we are picking on 'best rep form', then it is Hayne.
If we are picking someone to carry a team by themselves, then it is Hayne.


If we are picking a player who will never get in trouble with the judiciary, no matter how what he does, then it's Slater.

:lol: Ken oath.

 

[POPEYE]

Who will get picked to play fullback in Four Nations . . . Slater, Hayne or Inglis. If the first choice is not available who will be the second

 

[hineyrulz]

Provided he doesn't go missing the next five like he did the last five

Hopefully the next 5 years Parra has a coach and a team around him that can do his talents justice, i'd love to see what Slater could do with a spine of Robson,Mortimer and Keating around him let alone lead them to a GF only to be beaten by a team 1.1m dollar overs the salary cap........

 

[betcats]

You forgot all those years Slater has been playing with the best fullback ever . . . not saying he masturbates mind you

You love bellyache pops, think of this..Bellamy is famous for bringing players to melb and getting more out of them in terms of form and consistency, hypothetically apply that "Bellamy bonus" to Hayne and imagine.

 

[Tommy Smith]

This might sound silly, but I think "individual brilliance" is overrated. People always talk about Hayne's ability to carry a shit team through moments of individual brilliance.

But there has to be something said for Slater's unmatched ability to combine so well with his team. Slater is the tip of the spear so to speak. He probably doesn't have Hayne's ability to come up with freakish plays... in fact he doesn't... the only guy that comes close is Greg Inglis.

But I've never seen a fullback combine so well with his teammates like Slater. Whether it be his uncanny backup play, utilising his ridiculous acceleration in and around the ruck by being in the right place at the right time, or his quick hands on the end of a backline movement.

He's also the best defensive fullback I've ever seen. His positional play is brilliant. And I've lost count how many times he's held someone up over the line. Everything he does, he does at a minimum 9/10 level. The ONLY thing I can fault him on is his bomb catching at Origin level under pressure. I've seen him grass a few. That's it.

In an awful team Hayne will win you more games. But I don't think it's a bad thing that a player like Slater can make a very good team a truly great team by providing the polish on almost every play.

I'm not saying he's definitely better. Just playing devils advocate in a heavily Hayne favoured argument.

 

[carcharias]

This might sound silly, but I think "individual brilliance" is overrated. People always talk about Hayne's ability to carry a shit team through moments of individual brilliance.

But there has to be something said for Slater's unmatched ability to combine so well with his team. Slater is the tip of the spear so to speak. He probably doesn't have Hayne's ability to come up with freakish plays... in fact he doesn't... the only guy that comes close is Greg Inglis.

But I've never seen a fullback combine so well with his teammates like Slater. Whether it be his uncanny backup play, utilising his ridiculous acceleration in and around the ruck by being in the right place at the right time, or his quick hands on the end of a backline movement.

He's also the best defensive fullback I've ever seen. His positional play is brilliant. And I've lost count how many times he's held someone up over the line. Everything he does, he does at a minimum 9/10 level. The ONLY thing I can fault him on is his bomb catching at Origin level under pressure. I've seen him grass a few. That's it.

In an awful team Hayne will win you more games. But I don't think it's a bad thing that a player like Slater can make a very good team a truly great team by providing the polish on almost every play.

I'm not saying he's definitely better. Just playing devils advocate in a heavily Hayne favoured argument.

Correctamundo.
Hayne isn't even the second best fullback in the game.

 

[_Johnsy]

On current form, Hayne in a heartbeat.

 

[carcharias]

On current form, Hayne in a heartbeat.

Was Hayne part of the team that got flogged in consecutive weeks recently?

 

[gypsy]

Slater is the most consistently brilliant player I've ever seen play the game

I disagree there

 

[Penrose Warrior]

If you were to send one human to send into the solar system to play the best the extra-terrestrials have to offer, with the earth's very existence at stake, you'd go Hayne.

I don't know that at any time you would've gone Slater over GI, Hayne or anyone else who was the biggest swinging dick at the time.

Stupid scenario but I like it.

 

[gypsy]

I often use an analogy of Tendulkar vs Lara when speaking to this very topic.
Both great players. If Tendulkar didn't get runs however, Dravid, Sehwag, Laxman, Ganguly would mostly cover things nicely. If Lara failed, well they were rolled for 80.

Hayne (Lara) the better of the two.

 

[Twizzle]

Provided he doesn't go missing the next five like he did the last five

The whole team went missing for which we can credit Sticky and Kearney.

Hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys.

 

[hineyrulz]

I often use an analogy of Tendulkar vs Lara when speaking to this very topic.
Both great players. If Tendulkar didn't get runs however, Dravid, Sehwag, Laxman, Ganguly would mostly cover things nicely. If Lara failed, well they were rolled for 80.

Hayne (Lara) the better of the two.

I like it

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Fastnet LaraHayne

 

[JJ]

This might sound silly, but I think "individual brilliance" is overrated. People always talk about Hayne's ability to carry a shit team through moments of individual brilliance.

But there has to be something said for Slater's unmatched ability to combine so well with his team. Slater is the tip of the spear so to speak. He probably doesn't have Hayne's ability to come up with freakish plays... in fact he doesn't... the only guy that comes close is Greg Inglis.

But I've never seen a fullback combine so well with his teammates like Slater. Whether it be his uncanny backup play, utilising his ridiculous acceleration in and around the ruck by being in the right place at the right time, or his quick hands on the end of a backline movement.

He's also the best defensive fullback I've ever seen. His positional play is brilliant. And I've lost count how many times he's held someone up over the line. Everything he does, he does at a minimum 9/10 level. The ONLY thing I can fault him on is his bomb catching at Origin level under pressure. I've seen him grass a few. That's it.

In an awful team Hayne will win you more games. But I don't think it's a bad thing that a player like Slater can make a very good team a truly great team by providing the polish on almost every play.

I'm not saying he's definitely better. Just playing devils advocate in a heavily Hayne favoured argument.

Good points, but I am not sure how we can be sure Slater's ability to combine with teammates is unmatched - those team mates, like Slater, have been all time greats - whereas the Eels teams Hayne has been in haven't had much in the way of playmaking ability for him to compliment - to an extent that's been true at Origin level too, and of course the f**kwit Stuart didn't seem to think Hayne was up to being fullback - obviously Stuart and the Dugan are very fine players, but I am not clear what drugs Stuart was on...

 

[hineyrulz]

Fastnet LaraHayne

:lol:

 

[thehattrickrabbit]

Rugby League is a team game and each team have different formations in place.

It's pretty hard to compare a Fullback playing behind a completely different structure or "non-structure" in adlib play to a No.1 playing behind deep structure.

I ask the question how GI would go for Parramatta when given all the ball in the world and is stationed behind the or equal to the centres half the time.

Compare GI and Billy all you like however I don't think it's very feasible to accurately say who is better when each of the players in mention are asked of slighty different roles to attain.

Deep structure will hold similarities doesn't matter the particular formations each coach uses however when your talking ad-lib play there is many possibilities available to utilise.

In structual assignments no player is bigger than the team and that is the football that reigns supreme over a side who plays to the strength of just one player.

 

[Tommy Smith]

If you were to send one human to send into the solar system to play the best the extra-terrestrials have to offer, with the earth's very existence at stake, you'd go Hayne.

I don't know that at any time you would've gone Slater over GI, Hayne or anyone else who was the biggest swinging dick at the time.

Stupid scenario but I like it.

 

[_Johnsy]

Was Hayne part of the team that got flogged in consecutive weeks recently?

So team form now = individual form.

Top shelf effort. Considering you follow Scumnulla it actually makes a bit more sense.