Sloan

[Carlton]

Couple of 20m restarts last game. Sloan runs back wanting players to get on side. Taps it and passes it.

That sort of stuff, looks very bad for a 50 plus NRL future star.

I dont understand the point here, you cant tap the ball until all of your players are behind the 20 m line.

 

[Lennyb]

I dont understand the point here, you cant tap the ball until all of your players are behind the 20 m line.

If he is rushing blokes to get back who have been doing the hard yards. Then cant do them himself.
Is the point.

 

[Carlton]

If he is rushing blokes to get back who have been doing the hard yards. Then cant do them himself.
Is the point.

Which blokes do the hard yards more than the fullback? And you think because he is tapping and passing that he is not doing the hard yards himself?

 

[Spazer]

If the defensive line is set I don't get why he would take the hit up in that situation.

On another note someone taught him how to catch bombs he's nailed them the last 2 games.

 

[Lennyb]

Excuses.

Catching bombs should be learnt before playing NRL.

 

[Lennyb]

Same as getting across to atleast try to stop tries on the edge.

 

[JubileeJeffro]

His high ball has improved. He is still caught out of position often and is a a poor front on defender near the line. Needs to put 5kgs on his frame

 

[Lovemedragons]

His high ball has improved. He is still caught out of position often and is a a poor front on defender near the line. Needs to put 5kgs on his frame

He has made a huge improvement with taking bombs and a small improvement in bringing the ball back - small. But he has stopped backing up, he could be causing real issues by following forwards like Sua and Couchman when they make their runs through the middle. His defence is a worry amongst the big boys too, its hard to say if he is going to make it in the long run.

 

[slippery5]

His high ball has improved. He is still caught out of position often and is a a poor front on defender near the line. Needs to put 5kgs on his frame

I mentioned in another post, he is caught out of position because he gives up ground by tracking foward diagonally, instead of just crabbing across to cover the in goal kick, this gives away valuable metres that he always is trying to recover by chasing the kick backward with a charging kick chaser.

 

[Bin Chicken]

His high ball has improved. He is still caught out of position often and is a a poor front on defender near the line. Needs to put 5kgs on his frame

What he needs to put on is a reserve grade jersey. That’s where you learn not in first grade

 

[Lennyb]

He lopes across in defence on the line because he hates contact. Decides to get a move on when no hard contact will be made.

He does the same on our wins.

 

[<StGeorgeDragons>]

How long did we debate Dufty until we all decided he was just not up to standard? This all feels similar as much as I want Sloan to be the big star I know he can be.

I reckon if we had more strike out wide and far more intelligent halves suddenly Sloan is twice the player in attack. He is better suited as an added weapon then the primary source of points. His defensive game is improving and while not perfect in positioning, you'd still give him more time. However now it seems to have come at the cost of his sweeping runs/ backing up.

Considering we can't even replace Lomax yet, or get in any decent halves, we will just have to persist with him.

 

[jeffdragon]

He has made a huge improvement with taking bombs and a small improvement in bringing the ball back - small. But he has stopped backing up, he could be causing real issues by following forwards like Sua and Couchman when they make their runs through the middle. His defence is a worry amongst the big boys too, its hard to say if he is going to make it in the long run.

Look at the Storm Faalogo and Sharpe for Knighrs you can tell they are footballers and played a few games
Even Weekes for Raiders and Kini for Titans.
Sloan has played many more and we still don't know

 

[John moz]

Dragons outside backs suck can not compete with other teams with speed.
Sloan flanno fenei brothers wow they are nsw cup players only .

 

[Bin Chicken]

How long did we debate Dufty until we all decided he was just not up to standard? This all feels similar as much as I want Sloan to be the big star I know he can be.

I reckon if we had more strike out wide and far more intelligent halves suddenly Sloan is twice the player in attack. He is better suited as an added weapon then the primary source of points. His defensive game is improving and while not perfect in positioning, you'd still give him more time. However now it seems to have come at the cost of his sweeping runs/ backing up.

Considering we can't even replace Lomax yet, or get in any decent halves, we will just have to persist with him.

Dufty is 10x the player Sloan will be . We need to find a new Fullback if we are to move forward . Not attacking his character here but he is not a NRL player

 

[<StGeorgeDragons>]

Dufty is 10x the player Sloan will be . We need to find a new Fullback if we are to move forward . Not attacking his character here but he is not a NRL player

Not sure the disparity is that large. Both have been victims of playing alongside substandard backlines. Put Sloan or Dufty in at the Roosters or Storm and they’d look far superior. My point is neither are a silver bullet. We are in dire straits with our squad in the short term future and that’s what makes losses like this hurt as it will be more of the same next season.

 

[Sage63]

Dragons outside backs suck can not compete with other teams with speed.
Sloan flanno fenei brothers wow they are nsw cup players only .

So what your solution genius?

 

[TheRev]

I agree with all the negative stuff, but given there is noone better sitting in nsw cup, atleast hes doing a bit better with the basics...

Longer term I think the solution is we try get some skillful tackle breakers like Blaize or similar, if they kill it at training, it gives Flanno options to swap Sloan out, but until that happens, Flanno has to work with what hes got.

 

[saint-stefano]

How long did we debate Dufty until we all decided he was just not up to standard? This all feels similar as much as I want Sloan to be the big star I know he can be.

I reckon if we had more strike out wide and far more intelligent halves suddenly Sloan is twice the player in attack. He is better suited as an added weapon then the primary source of points. His defensive game is improving and while not perfect in positioning, you'd still give him more time. However now it seems to have come at the cost of his sweeping runs/ backing up.

Considering we can't even replace Lomax yet, or get in any decent halves, we will just have to persist with him.

as much as i like sloan i think dufty was a much better fullback he scored tries and set plenty up with his bullet like passing game ....sloan only scores in open field breaks with his speed dosent set up to many tries,

 

[since77]

We're still blaming the fullback for not stopping the tries that 12 other players in front of him let happen?