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Soccer at Shark Park

Mr. Sharky

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Push for third team in Sydney as A-League aims to cash in on World Cup hype and record SBS ratings

June 21, 2014 10:00PM

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Football Australia chairman David Gallop says “the connection to the grassroots and our massive participation base is what sets our game apart”. Source: Getty Images

AUSTRALIAN soccer wants a third Sydney team in the A-League — smack bang in NRL territory — as part of future expansion and its next broadcasting deal.
Former NRL boss David Gallop plans to attack Sydney’s south, where the Cronulla Sharks are struggling and St George Illawarra have all but abandoned Kogarah Oval.

Cashing in on the World Cup hype and record SBS ratings, the subject of A-League expansion and long-term strategic planning have been discussed among FFA heavyweights in Brazil.

Corporate powerhouses Westfield and Nike have already indicated they will support the new venture.

There is talk of Socceroos legend Tim Cahill, who recently purchased a waterfront home in the Shire, becoming the face of the club.

Home grounds under consideration include Shark Park, Kogarah Oval and Wollongong.

As World Cup fever sweeps the nation and gives soccer another huge growth spurt, FFA is firming up plans that they hope will become a reality with the next TV deal in 2017.

The competition has remained stable at 10 clubs for the past three seasons, but several key stakeholders, including Frank Lowy, are pushing for a 12-club comp. The new markets under consideration are not likely to include provincial cities in the wake of FFA’s disastrous Townsville and Gold Coast play.

Instead, the major capital cities are under the spotlight.

On day one in the job as FFA chief executive, Gallop said A-League expansion should happen in markets where there are “millions of potential fans, not just hundreds of thousands”.

In Rio for the World Cup, Gallop told me: “The connection to the grassroots and our massive participation base is what sets our game apart. It makes sense to link clubs and communities in any expansion plan to keep the growth trajectory of the A-League on a steep incline.

“We need to fish where the fish are.”

Ironically, Gallop was the man in his rugby league chief executive days who always insisted that nine Sydney clubs and a saturation coverage of the city was the way to go.

For soccer, that means the focus will be Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Of these major markets, it’s understood that Sydney’s south and south-west and Brisbane’s west and south-west are regarded as prime territory for expansion.

Outside of the Shire, the other Sydney option is to take advantage of the south-west growth corridor from Liverpool to Campbelltown, where the planned new Badgery’s Creek airport will supercharge the economic growth in a region where soccer already has a massive following.

A third Sydney team to join Sydney FC and the Wanderers might seem ambitious at first glance, but the numbers show a huge market potential and a third club would deliver more of the
A-League’s hottest property — Sydney derby matches.

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There is talk of Socceroos legend Tim Cahill, who recently bought a waterfront home in the Shire, becoming the face of the club. Source: AFP

In the 2011/12 season, Sydney FC had the city’s market to themselves and had an average crowd of about 12,000 and membership of 7000.

The next season, the Western Sydney Wanderers were born and the Sydney soccer market changed forever.

Two seasons later, the market growth is phenomenal. Last season, Sydney FC had a crowd average of about 20,000 and membership of almost 12,000. The Wanderers packed Pirtek Stadium every week and ended with a 16,000 crowd average and a capped membership of 16,000.

On a fortnightly basis, the Sydney market went from 12,000 average attendances in 2011/12 to a combined 36,000 average in 2013/14. Membership went from 7000 to a combined 28,000.

They are staggering increases.

The Sydney basin is the heartland of Australian football, with 40 per cent of all registered players in this region. That’s more than 200,000 participants. Not only that, there are hot spots that don’t have a direct connection to an existing A-League club.

In my patch in the Shire, you’ll find the biggest suburban soccer association in Australia, the Sutherland Shire Football Association with about 20,000 players in 26 clubs, including Lilli Pilli, the biggest in the country.

Next door is the St George association, where the late, great Johnny Warren first kicked a ball on the fields of Botany.

This combination of grassroots numbers and heritage makes for a powerful case, just like the
Wanderers in the west of Sydney.

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Western Sydney Wanderers already have a massive fan base. Picture: Mark Evans Source: News Corp Australia

http://www.news.com.au/sport/footba...cord-sbs-ratings/story-fnk9a3dc-1226962606206
 

Mr. Sharky

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I can't see it happening (being a Sydney FC heartland for a start) but I feel as though a warning shot has been fired at the NRL not to throw us under the bus because of ASADA because if the NRL doesn't want us, then football will be more than happy to take over.
 

Mr. Sharky

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Shit. Thatd be the mother of all blindsides. Imagine if we changed codes.

I will be sticking with Sydney FC in any case but I hope this is the warning shot the NRL has had coming to it for a long time.

All the knockers and haters keep on calling for us for to be kicked out or relocated to to Bogabilla or Bandywallop etc. it is now in the NRL's interests to look after us otherwise they will now run the risk of losing the entire southern Sydney region to football.
 

Weaponhead

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From the perspective of the FFA, The Shire is the largest junior soccer association in the country. Wollongong had a team in the old NSL and could be tapped into for this side. There is potential there for a side that could average 12-14k per match.

From a Sharks perspective, we have an asset (Shark Park) that is unused apart from 12 days per year. Another tenant at the ground could attract investment to get it upgraded and bring in another revenue stream.

Makes sense.
 

stevie013

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From the perspective of the FFA, The Shire is the largest junior soccer association in the country. Wollongong had a team in the old NSL and could be tapped into for this side. There is potential there for a side that could average 12-14k per match.

From a Sharks perspective, we have an asset (Shark Park) that is unused apart from 12 days per year. Another tenant at the ground could attract investment to get it upgraded and bring in another revenue stream.

Makes sense.

its the largest in the southern hemisphere as well weapon. it would be a great plave to have a team and good for the club to have around 24 games of sport there a year. income generation would be heaps better and we would summer and winter covered.
 

Mr. Sharky

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It would make more sense to have Sydney FC leave Allianz Stadium and move to Shark Park as southern Sydney holds a large part of the club's fanbase as already.
 

Card Shark

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I get the feeling any team based out of Shark Park will be Cronullified before a ball is kicked in anger.

I'm so confident, I was nearly going to list them in the Cronullification thread.

What might happen is the RL club gets shipped to the other side of the country & the sole user is a FFA team.
 
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We don't want Wanderers fans coming to the Shire, they're just ex-Bulldogs fans who have found their true calling in life, football thuggery.
 

Mr. Sharky

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soccer is f**ked.

Carch, the way I see it, as Sharks fans we should be supportive of this move as it now forces the NRL to look after us as they risk losing the entire southern Sydney region if they force us out or force us into relocation because of ASADA.
 

Card Shark

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It would make more sense to have Sydney FC leave Allianz Stadium and move to Shark Park as southern Sydney holds a large part of the club's fanbase as already.

Would never happen. Allianz is a few levels above Remondis on many facets.
 

Mr. Sharky

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Would never happen. Allianz is a few levels above Remondis on many facets.

I know that, however the ground is far too big and Sydney hasn't got 40K there bar the derbies against the Hoolies and the 2006 Grand Final against Central Coast.
 

runatme

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i mentioned this a few months back

this has been in the works for months trust me
meetings with keogh have already been done
 

eddiesmith

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Do we own Shark Park? Because if so that would surely be a massive income generator having another tenant? Not to mention the Government will then pay up for any ground improvements wanted by the FFA, cant see an issue anywhere with this!

Even better, have the Cronulla Sharks Soccer Club, that would surely be a world first, competing codes under 1 umbrella?
 

Mr. Sharky

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Do we own Shark Park? Because if so that would surely be a massive income generator having another tenant? Not to mention the Government will then pay up for any ground improvements wanted by the FFA, cant see an issue anywhere with this!

Even better, have the Cronulla Sharks Soccer Club, that would surely be a world first, competing codes under 1 umbrella?

Yes we do Eddie. We're one of the only clubs in the NRL that still owns it's own ground.

Not really, it is common place in England as the Leeds Rhinos and Leeds Carnegie rugby team are operated by the same company and play at the same ground same as Barnet FC and now the London Broncos sharing the same ground.
 

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