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Soccer at Shark Park

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Imagine the free advertising the Sutherland team qualifies for Asian Championship, you get seen throughout asia in each game, having the hotel attached to ground makes it easier for there fans to come over, major advantage here
 

Mr. Sharky

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Cronulla boss Lyall Gorman says Sharks can have A-League team up and running by 2017

December 8, 2014 - 11:00PM

Michael Chammas
Rugby league reporter

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"If you own a venue today, you want content": Cronulla Sharks chief executive Lyall Gorman. Photo: John Veage

New Cronulla Sharks chief executive Lyall Gorman believes the club can own the next A-League franchise and says they could be ready for the 2017 season when the FFA is expected to expand the competition.

Gorman, who joined Cronulla last month after two years at the Western Sydney Wanderers, isn't afraid to dream big and believes an A-League franchise is a logical option to help build the Sharks brand.

While Gorman has held only preliminary discussions with the club's powerbrokers over the prospect of entering a Sharks A-League team, he is confident a team could be up and running in time for the 2017-18 A-League season.

"Absolutely it can be ready," Gorman said on Monday.

"That's a conversation with the board to have within the Sharks, but you own your own ground, it's rectangular, you're in the heartland of the participation base. I have no doubt if the board thought it was the appropriate thing to do, time wouldn't be a challenge.

"If it ever came to fruition, it would be naive of the Sharks not to look at that and the business model and to see whether they can make it work. When you look at the leverage that shared services could provide you, one brand is a very strong case for that sort of model."

Gorman's vision, which would be boosted by the club's property development, also includes the Wollongong region, and Gorman is adamant the Sharks would have to embrace the south coast in order to reach their potential as an A-League franchise.

It's understood the FFA are also keen to include the St George region in any potential expansion team involving the Sutherland Shire, which has long been regarded by Sydney FC as their backyard.

"The fundamental principle is to get the current 10 clubs strong, financially viable and sustainable, that's the FFA's focus right now and rightly so," Gorman said.

"But logically a third team in Sydney makes sense with our population base. If you're going to look at where that might be, there's only two possible corridors. There's the south-west of Sydney, and you have to have that debate over whether the Wanderers own that fertile ground or not. The other logical place is the Sutherland Shire with the largest registered player participation in the country, going down into the rich multicultural diversity of Wollongong.

"A perfect model for me would be the marriage of the rich history of football that both areas bring and the cultural diversity it brings, therefore you get the passion, pride, parochialism, love and respect for the game of football that just flows from that. I just see it as a logical extension. You need solid population bases to run professional sporting franchises. If you can broaden that population base under a brand, it makes a lot of sense."

Despite rejecting interest from the Penrith Panthers to purchase the Western Sydney Wanderers last year, Football Federation Australia chief executive David Gallop is open to interest from the Sharks given there are sporting organisations around the world that have enjoyed success with teams in multiple codes, like the Seattle Seahawks and Seattle Sounders in the NFL and MLS competitions.

"Expansion is not on our immediate agenda, but clearly we want to move to more than 10 teams," Gallop said.

"We will need to carefully consider not only the financial viability of any new franchise but the impact of that new franchise on the league as well as the existing clubs. The big metropolitan areas of Sydney and Melbourne currently have two clubs and whether a third club would work is something we will look at in great detail.

"It's too early to consider a joint venture with a club from another code but there are models around the world where it has worked."

Remondis Stadium, which is owned by the Sharks, is currently used about 12 times a season for NRL, costing the club $50,000 per match in maintenance and utilities, as well as another $70,000 in operational costs.

Gorman said it was important for the business to get the most out of the venue.

"If you own a venue today, you want content," Gorman said.

"You want other diverse revenue streams flowing around. You go to the greatest football clubs in the world, they've got hotels, retail and commercial, plus content. The venue the LA Galaxy use is used 275 times a year. To make stadiums viable, you always need content.

"We have seen a model with football and rugby league with the Hunter Sports Group. We probably learnt some positives and negatives with that we could do differently moving forward. With the learnings that are there, it will be interesting to hear the FFA's view on that over time."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...m-up-and-running-by-2017-20141208-122mbc.html
 

Quigs

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Bums on seats, people in the club, money in the till.

Club venue used all year, promote Brand, new followers, increase club revenue.

Rinse and repeat.

Bums on seats, people in the club, money in the till.

Club venue used all year, promote Brand, new followers, increase club revenue.

Rinse and Repeat.
 

Mr. Sharky

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I'd honestly like to see Southern Districts break away from the Greater Sydney Rams NRC franchise and have a rugby team out of Shark Park.

Having a team from both rugby codes playing out of the same ground would be brilliant.
 

Delboy

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Not a Sharks supporter, but a bit strange that the first comment from an ex soccer CEO , now CEO at at a rugby league team is about soccer.

Don't know why it sends an odd signal, but I would have thought a big vision about the Sharks would have been more appropriate. A cynic may say, watch your back
 

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Not a Sharks supporter, but a bit strange that the first comment from an ex soccer CEO , now CEO at at a rugby league team is about soccer.

Don't know why it sends an odd signal, but I would have thought a big vision about the Sharks would have been more appropriate. A cynic may say, watch your back

Hardly the first comment from him though is it?
 

oikee

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Not a Sharks supporter, but a bit strange that the first comment from an ex soccer CEO , now CEO at at a rugby league team is about soccer.

Don't know why it sends an odd signal, but I would have thought a big vision about the Sharks would have been more appropriate. A cynic may say, watch your back

I can see what he is trying to do, link with soccer to make money for the club, but gee whiz. Talk about giving another code a free run.
The sharks have been on their knees for so long, and to lose more market share in a area where growth is hard to come by, is vertually the same as the Titans had happen to them.
Another code came along and were given a free run by local government and look what has happened. The Titans are now on their knees.

This guy is a soccer guy, he could not care less if the shark brand got destroyed while soccer took over. Why would he give a damn, he has no idea what this could do to the Sharks.

I now think it would be a better bet to move the Sharks, let soccer have this area if they really want it, and take the Sharks brand to a bigger city.
This whole area and club is holding back the brand. And the code.
 

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It makes incredible sense for the club to aim for an a league team. I had no faith we could have done anything other than let them use our ground but now Gorman is on board its a no brainer. Everything is in place for a team to slip right in and Gorman created a club from nothing only a few years ago. Puts our ground to use year round and doesn't clash with the Nrl team. Do a stadium membership like anz do and ill snap one up!
 

Frenzy.

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Wonder what colours they could have. The sky blue, black and white seems to be well spoken for in the A League.

Have nothing against this at all.
 

DJShaksta

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It makes incredible sense for the club to aim for an a league team. I had no faith we could have done anything other than let them use our ground but now Gorman is on board its a no brainer. Everything is in place for a team to slip right in and Gorman created a club from nothing only a few years ago. Puts our ground to use year round and doesn't clash with the Nrl team. Do a stadium membership like anz do and ill snap one up!

Absolutely.
It's a business.
It's aim is to make money.
An A-League team running out of Shark park wearing Sharks colours would make ALOT of money.
 

2012....Sharks Year

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I can see what he is trying to do, link with soccer to make money for the club, but gee whiz. Talk about giving another code a free run.
The sharks have been on their knees for so long, and to lose more market share in a area where growth is hard to come by, is vertually the same as the Titans had happen to them.
Another code came along and were given a free run by local government and look what has happened. The Titans are now on their knees.

This guy is a soccer guy, he could not care less if the shark brand got destroyed while soccer took over. Why would he give a damn, he has no idea what this could do to the Sharks.

I now think it would be a better bet to move the Sharks, let soccer have this area if they really want it, and take the Sharks brand to a bigger city.
This whole area and club is holding back the brand. And the code.
Hardly competition to the sharks if its in our off-season. Just another way of increasing our overall revenue stream and profitability......Meanwhile Dousty cracks another Crownie while he's on the phone to the Nrl for yet another handout to pay the rent at Jubilee!
 

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Absolutely.
It's a business.
It's aim is to make money.
An A-League team running out of Shark park wearing Sharks colours would make ALOT of money.

Why are you so sure? The NRL team has hardly had a sell out in over 15 years. This sports club idea is a bit rich. So Barcelona and Real Madrid have basketball teams. But their soccer teams can draw 80000plus. Their basketball clubs draw on the 80000. Our NRL team averages about 12k. A soccer team running out in Sharks colours could draw 5k. Shire people need to get behind the MRL team first and foremost. There have been many instances where the team have been let down by a poor attendance and no atmosphere at NRL level.

I for one can do without Wanderers dickheads or Sydney FC cappacinno set at Shark park.

We sing for Wanderers! What a load of shit.
 

Sharkman

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Im all for this.

Anything that enables the preservation of the club, the solidifying of our on going operations and the expanded use of the facilities in general.

Quigs covered it perfectly.

Also, whether is soccer tagged or NRL tagged, I don’t really care the precise nature of this current exposure.
What we have now the Sharks”brand” getting real estate in print and digital media.
That real estate over recent days, despite the very best attempts form DUI Bec and that other Kent, has been positive, non ASADA, non Gallen Kent tweet related.

That’s the biggest win of all.
 

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Why are you so sure? The NRL team has hardly had a sell out in over 15 years. This sports club idea is a bit rich. So Barcelona and Real Madrid have basketball teams. But their soccer teams can draw 80000plus. Their basketball clubs draw on the 80000. Our NRL team averages about 12k. A soccer team running out in Sharks colours could draw 5k. Shire people need to get behind the MRL team first and foremost. There have been many instances where the team have been let down by a poor attendance and no atmosphere at NRL level.

I for one can do without Wanderers dickheads or Sydney FC cappacinno set at Shark park.

We sing for Wanderers! What a load of shit.

Those wanderers fans have created arguably the best atmosphere in Australian sport. An A league team could draw crowds pretty close to what our Nrl team do I think. Thats not a tough expectation and brings revenue into the club for the 6 months the nrl is in off season.
 

Quigs

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George and coupe could be pissed off for all 12 months of the year.

Well that alone has made cemented my decision in the affirmative.

Forkem both - love it.

Just imagine the old ferkwit sitting in the driveway painting another Jesus sign every second weekend of the year. Priceless.
 
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Remember as well you have A/League team they qualify for Asian Champions League, this allows the development to get free advertising more investors, more tourists.

The more money into the club through diverse revenue streams benefits all.

On side issue what is situation with the golf course next door is that part of development
 

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