Stadium Re-development Thread

[Chimp]

I was aghast when I heard there were no such penalties in place. I'd be inclined to look at legalities towards the persons who agreed to not have them in place originally.

I’d completely agree with this. I’d be interested to know who signed it off and which legal team were involved. It’s so bad, such a basic requirement, it’s unheard of that there’d be no penalties or remuneration for delays, I’d also be having an investigation completed to see if said people who signed off on that had any financial links with the developers, either pre or post signing of a contract with no commercial protection in it.

 

[Eion]

They should finish building the club, sell the land that the football ground is on, and either work with the gov to build something somewhere else in the Shire or move to Allianz or whatever it's called these days. Currently it's all death by a thousand cuts and works in favour of those that would like to see us fail.

If the government would stump up cash to fund a new stadium, then surely it is cheaper to revamp the existing.

I have it from a reliable sauce that a major sticking point in getting gov stadium and CofE help has been our unwillingness to ‘share’. If we opened it up to co-ownership / got a partner or 2 for a centre of excellence…that’s a lot more palatable to any gov than just helping out 1 club from basically 1 seat who owns their own ground.

We’re not going to solely own any new ground anyway.

 

[Cheese sandwich]

I’d completely agree with this. I’d be interested to know who signed it off and which legal team were involved. It’s so bad, such a basic requirement, it’s unheard of that there’d be no penalties or remuneration for delays, I’d also be having an investigation completed to see if said people who signed off on that had any financial links with the developers, either pre or post signing of a contract with no commercial protection in it.

I think the club was run by well meaning yet vastly unqualified people. When we got the original green light for the development to stop us going bust I'm guessing we were taken for a ride and it has continued to snowball to this day.

 

[Ozzi_78]

Has anyone ever confirmed if the club has any commercial protection for these delays? We got paid whilst the ground was unavailable, is there any shortfall payment from the developers for lost revenue?

Raw

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

If the government would stump up cash to fund a new stadium, then surely it is cheaper to revamp the existing.

I have it from a reliable sauce that a major sticking point in getting gov stadium and CofE help has been our unwillingness to ‘share’. If we opened it up to co-ownership / got a partner or 2 for a centre of excellence…that’s a lot more palatable to any gov than just helping out 1 club from basically 1 seat who owns their own ground.

We’re not going to solely own any new ground anyway.

who would partner?
soccer? Rugby?
we should be all over that shit tbh

 

[bad boy bubby]

100% agree feej


where though? loftus Tafe?

What was Reefy's old suggestion? Was it Loftus or Sutho? I guess either could work.

It was Loftus. I'd say the best spot there would be where the Aussie Rules oval is.
I suggest the Govt would only come on board to build this if both the Sharks and the Dargons would be using it. A 25-30k all seater.
It's about 20 mins from Sharks Leagues, 22 mins from Kogarah Leagues and 40mins from WIN Stad.
The idea was floated about when a Chinese consortium wanted to put a team in the A-League to involve Southern Sydney and the Gong as a team.

 

[Cheese sandwich]

It was Loftus. I'd say the best spot there would be where the Aussie Rules oval is.
I suggest the Govt would only come on board to build this if both the Sharks and the Dargons would be using it. A 25-30k all seater.
It's about 20 mins from Sharks Leagues, 22 mins from Kogarah Leagues and 40mins from WIN Stad.
The idea was floated about when a Chinese consortium wanted to put a team in the A-League to involve Southern Sydney and the Gong as a team.

Couldn't see the dargons ever agreeing to play in our territory and rightly so plus I wouldn't want them seedying the place up. Missed the boat with the soccer even if the A League is a waste of time with crowds of about 30.

Can't see a new stadium ever happening in our area unless we had a billionaire owner unfortunately.

The only way was tarting up our current ground instead of building apartments and hotels right on top of it but as I've said a million times that I suspect that was deliberate and the ground will just be swallowed up into yet more of the soulless apartment blocks that have swamped Sydney over the last 20 years or so.

At the moment I struggle to see a viable future for us in the Sutherland Shire

 

[Eion]

who would partner?
soccer? Rugby?
we should be all over that shit tbh

Anyone we could get.
Look at the fapping over PNG. Get an Oceania High Performance f**ken thing or similar. Massive gov PR oops.

 

[Craigshark]

Sell it to council and with the agreement to redevelop Seymour Shaw at Miranda into a soccer/league stadium?

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

It was Loftus. I'd say the best spot there would be where the Aussie Rules oval is.
I suggest the Govt would only come on board to build this if both the Sharks and the Dargons would be using it. A 25-30k all seater.
It's about 20 mins from Sharks Leagues, 22 mins from Kogarah Leagues and 40mins from WIN Stad.
The idea was floated about when a Chinese consortium wanted to put a team in the A-League to involve Southern Sydney and the Gong as a team.

theres a very warm place that would have to freeze over for dragons to agree there

 

[bad boy bubby]

Couldn't see the dargons ever agreeing to play in our territory and rightly so plus I wouldn't want them seedying the place up. Missed the boat with the soccer even if the A League is a waste of time with crowds of about 30.

Can't see a new stadium ever happening in our area unless we had a billionaire owner unfortunately.

The only way was tarting up our current ground instead of building apartments and hotels right on top of it but as I've said a million times that I suspect that was deliberate and the ground will just be swallowed up into yet more of the soulless apartment blocks that have swamped Sydney over the last 20 years or so.

At the moment I struggle to see a viable future for us in the Sutherland Shire

theres a very warm place that would have to freeze over for dragons to agree there

I have no doubt they wouldn't want to play there, I also have no doubt that it's the only way a Govt funded built stadium would come. Don't forget, they play out of Govt owned stadiums now that only get used a handful of times a year each for NRL games.
Please note that I am not advocating this idea, just being realistic on how it could possibly happen.
Unless the NRL buy half of Endeavour and spend cash on it, as I can't see any Govt spending much, I'd say the SFS will eventually become the "home" ground, with a load of buses from the Leagues Club and back.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

I have no doubt they wouldn't want to play there, I also have no doubt that it's the only way a Govt funded built stadium would come. Don't forget, they play out of Govt owned stadiums now that only get used a handful of times a year each for NRL games.
Please note that I am not advocating this idea, just being realistic on how it could possibly happen.
Unless the NRL buy half of Endeavour and spend cash on it, as I can't see any Govt spending much, I'd say the SFS will eventually become the "home" ground, with a load of buses from the Leagues Club and back.

you are 100% right on all this.

oh i think that second bit is what's gonna eventually happen. not them buying sharks, us playing at moore park.

the club, will face a point (racing towards that point atm) where the economics of playing at shark park simply cant compete with corporate money at sfs etc

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

we really need more seats in the joint
every stand has a waitlist

just put f**kn temporary stuff in and never move it (See manuka oval)