Stalled and stagnant Sydney clubs

[Wb1234]

It

can be but I bet you it won’t be, they need to sell the ninth game before they announce another club and those negotiations wont start until 2025/26 at earliest.

Vlandys is playing 5d chess whilst you are playing checkers

why do you think there have been leaks about the next side being announced in 2025. He will see what money afl gets and then go to broadcasters with the extra carrot of a 9th game on top of bigger ratings than the afl

 

[Perth Red]

20k is a small capacity is it ? Lol

By modern stadiums standards, yes 20k is small.

 

[Perth Red]

Vlandys is playing 5d chess whilst you are playing checkers

why do you think there have been leaks about the next side being announced in 2025. He will see what money afl gets and then go to broadcasters with the extra carrot of a 9th game on top of bigger ratings than the afl

Have you been following the nrl very long lol?

 

[Colk]

I don’t think anyone is suggesting going to 20 anytime soon. Perth next in 2027. Then nz2 in 2032 then either adelaide or brisbane3, whichever makes most sense, in 2035 would be something like possible.

Exactly. You can plan for 20 teams over the next 10-15 years.

You can do this by attacking RU and looking at Pacific talent (we only have about 20 or so players born in the Pacific which is an incredibly small number really considering it should be a goldmine for talent, investing/funding in junior talent properly, fixing inequities with the salary cap etc.

This post is full of so many contradictions.
If people from central coast already have a side then so do the dolphins

so did the broncos
So did the cowboys

You can’t be this silly can you. The point of capitalism is that people can only actively consume a product when they have access to it or have a choice. Active support means buying memberships, attending games etc.

Even if I were a supporter of the Broncos pre Cowboys, it’s not like I am going to fly down from Cairns/Townsville to watch the Broncos thousands of miles away (at least very often). So distance and access is a problem.

If I’m in Brisbane and I don’t like the Broncos, I’m not going to attend Broncos games and buy a Broncos membership am I? Choice is a problem.

In either of these cases I’m not detracting from Brisbane’s active supporter base because I don’t have access to the product or there is very little choice given to me.

In the CC example, I live an hour away from Sydney and Newcastle. I have the ability to actively consume a product of any one of 10 clubs. If I follow the game, I already follow a club and I’m much more likely to be an active supporter because I have choice and I have access to the product.

 

[Wb1234]

Have you been following the nrl very long lol?

I’ve been following the nrl since it was the nswrl!

 

[Wb1234]

By modern stadiums standards, yes 20k is small.

Perth Rectangular Stadium - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Lmaoooo

 

[Perth Red]

Perth Rectangular Stadium - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Lmaoooo

What you laughing at? I know hbf needs a new west stand and by modern stadiums standards is a small stadium. I’d have a 25k min capacity for nrl stadiums. WA govt can get its finger out and finish hbf off if it wants an nrl club.

 

[Wb1234]

What you laughing at? I know hbf needs a new west stand and by modern stadiums standards is a small stadium. I’d have a 25k min capacity for nrl stadiums. WA govt can get its finger out and finish hbf of it wants an nrl club.

So all this time you have been blaming the arlc for not having a Perth nrl team when the real reason they haven’t got a team is because the wa government hasnt gotten them a ground the right size for an nrl team ?

looool

 

[Perth Red]

So all this time you have been blaming the arlc for not having a Perth nrl team when the real reason they haven’t got a team is because the wa government hasnt gotten them a ground the right size for an nrl team ?

looool

dont be a dck, you know as well as I do there is no min criteria for nrl grounds. I mean we play games at local country parks and afl ovals that hold 12k Ffs.

 

[Wb1234]

dont be a dck, you know as well as I do there is no min criteria for nrl grounds. I mean we play games at local country parks and afl ovals that hold 12k Ffs.

So then what you said about central coast stadium was fake lol

maybe you meant the ground criteria should only apply to places you don’t want to have a team rather than have it consistently applied to all

 

[Perth Red]

So then what you said about central coast stadium was fake lol

maybe you meant the ground criteria should only apply to places you don’t want to have a team rather than have it consistently applied to all

I swear you dont read these threads and things just materialise in your head lol. What do you think I said about gosford stadium?
all I actually said is it is small by modern stadium standards, and it is. That’s all I said about it lol

 

[Wb1234]

By modern stadiums standards, yes 20k is small.

I swear you dont read these threads and things just materialise in your head lol. What do you think I said about gosford stadium

all I actually said is it is small by modern stadium standards, and it is. That’s all I said about

I swear you dont read these threads and things just materialise in your head lol. What do you think I said about gosford stadium?
all I actually said is it is small by modern stadium standards, and it is. That’s all I said about it lol

Well I figured you were agreeing with the previous guy who used it as en excuse why they’ve shouldn’t get a team hence why you quoted it.

 

[Colk]

I swear you dont read these threads and things just materialise in your head lol. What do you think I said about gosford stadium


Well I figured you were agreeing with the previous guy who used it as en excuse why they’ve shouldn’t get a team hence why you quoted it.

The stadium was the least of the problems with a Gosford stadium. They have a nice stadium, albeit a little small. The location is also great.

This doesn’t mean they should have a side. Manly/Roosters/Souths etc can play the occasional game and that is more than enough.

 

[Perth Red]

I swear you dont read these threads and things just materialise in your head lol. What do you think I said about gosford stadium


Well I figured you were agreeing with the previous guy who used it as en excuse why they’ve shouldn’t get a team hence why you quoted it.

lol You literally asked if 20k is a small capacity, I answered you with yes it is by modern standards, which it is. There are many reasons Gosford will never get a team of its own, the stadium is one of the last of them!

but to my point I’d give clubs a ten year warning that they must be in 25k min capacity or risk losing their license and I wouldn’t bring in any new club with a stadium that didn’t meet this criteria. Wa govt has a $13billion surplus, it can afford $100mill for a new stand at hbf That would take it over 25k.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sunshine Coast has an nrl team

wollgongong certainly can support an nrl team as the crowd showed today

the Gordon’s are billionaires.

The Redcliffe Dolphins are based in Redcliffe, Moreton Bay. They'll play less games on the Sunshine Coast than the Dragons do in Wollongong.

Neither Sunshine Coast nor Wollongong deserve a team of their own.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yep there’s no chance a Sydney club will move now with the funding the way it is

If Foxtel goes tits up, which is a real possibility given they're $2 billion in debt and don't generate enough revenue through Kayo Sports to break even to counter the loss of traditional Foxtel subscribers, then funding will drop significantly. FTA is only going to get weaker.

 

[reanimate]

Your argument falls way short.

Most importantly, The Dolphins don’t have 10 other sides within the vicinity of them. Neither do the Cowboys. CC would.

Anyone who follows league on the Central Coast would already have a side and have ample opportunity to actively support a side. If you add a CC side, all you are doing is shrinking the support of Sydney sides, many which can’t afford that to happen. This is the same thing with corporates - if you know the area, you’ll know there are practically no corporates on the CC as they are already in Sydney - where is the investment going to come from?

Secondly the whole point of a second side in Brisbane is to have a game in Brisbane every week. Also, there would be enough people in Brisbane who don’t like the Broncos for a second team to have potential supporters, at least if the Dolphins do a good job.

The Central Coast TV market is also included in with Sydney, it adds nothing to broadcasters when you look at it from that perspective. That market has 9 teams, they aren’t going to get value for money by putting a 10th in that same market.

 

[Wb1234]

The Redcliffe Dolphins are based in Redcliffe, Moreton Bay. They'll play less games on the Sunshine Coast than the Dragons do in Wollongong.

Neither Sunshine Coast nor Wollongong deserve a team of their own.

Oh well both do have teams. Maybe you should write a letter to vlandys and tell him to move those teams

 

[Colk]

The Central Coast TV market is also included in with Sydney, it adds nothing to broadcasters when you look at it from that perspective. That market has 9 teams, they aren’t going to get value for money by putting a 10th in that same market.

Exactly mate. From any perspective (TV, fans, corporates) it makes no sense.

 

[johnny plath]

Oh well both do have teams. Maybe you should write a letter to vlandys and tell him to move those teams

So I live on Sunshine Coast... who's my team in the nrl???