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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

bileduct

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my argument is the idea of a f**king Mary Sue...

is John Wick a Mary Sue??
Probably.. But I haven't seen any of those movies so I couldn't tell you.

Your argument is that this is some kind of sexist thing. Anakin was roundly mocked for the same reasons, as was Wesley Crusher in Star Trek where the term originated.
 

shiznit

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LOL!! Comparing Lukes arc to Super Dooper Rey??? She's even more OP in the last movie if you listen to reviews, not a Mary Sue lololololol. Rey = Biggest Mary Sue ever. Just a boring one dimensional character that can do everything better than everyone else yet has done nothing to earn it. She doesn't even have an Arc she is like Superman without the cape or the weakness to kryponite.

I’m losing it?? You’re the one who started off with the random rant about Rey...

now I disagree with your stupid internet dork fake ass alpha take I’ve somehow lost it??

get the f**k outta here with that bullshit son... :joy::joy:
 

hineyrulz

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I’m losing it?? Your the one who started off with the random rant about Rey...

now I disagree with your stupid internet dork fake ass alpha take I’ve somehow lost it??

get the f**k outta here with that bullshit son... :joy::joy:
Wat????? Yeah dude unraveling at a rate of knots. That barely made sense, sounds like it was written by Ruin Johnson. You are the one who pissed his pants when i called Soooooooper Doooooper amazing Rey a Mary Sue.
 

shiznit

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Anyway... I’m waiting for this shot to start...

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bileduct

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Wat????? Yeah dude unraveling at a rate of knots. That barely made sense, sounds like it was written by Ruin Johnson. You are the one who pissed his pants when i called Soooooooper Doooooper amazing Rey a Mary Sue.
Okay, honest question here...

If either one of Jar Jar Abrams or Ruin Johnson were going to write and direct the entire trilogy, who would you choose?

I think I'd go with Johnson. Jar Jar Abrams is a f**king hack with his one trick mystery box and endless regurgitation of previous films. By his own admission he's only good at starting stories and not so great at finishing them. See: Lost, the Star Trek reboot series and The Force Awakens.

Johnson at least tried to do something a little different with the shitty characters Jar Jar gave him.
 

hineyrulz

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Okay, honest question here...

If either one of Jar Jar Abrams or Ruin Johnson were going to write and direct the entire trilogy, who would you choose?

I think I'd go with Johnson. Jar Jar Abrams is a f**king hack with his one trick mystery box and endless regurgitation of previous films. By his own admission he's only good at starting stories and not so great at finishing them. See: Lost, the Star Trek reboot series and The Force Awakens.

Johnson at least tried to do something a little different with the shitty characters Jar Jar gave him.
Talk about Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich, I actually didn't mind the TFA on first viewing, even on second but the more you watch it the worse it gets. I disliked TLJ first time i watched it and i went along a second time with a friend who hadn't seen it yet and i walked about knowing i truly hated the movie. JJ is a massive hack, Johnson is probably the better film maker. I like Looper and Knives out is supposed to be quite good. Honestly If Johnson didn't write the script i would probably go for him.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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The problem with Rey is that Disney were so obsessed with her being a strong female character they forgot to make her interesting and that's not changing in Ep 9.

Comparing Rey's journey to Luke's is lol, it's not even comparable.

At least this is the end of it and they can start fresh with new trilogies/tv series.

If I HAD to choose someone to do all 3 I would lean to JJ, only because removing TLJ and replacing it would be the easiest way to get a cleaner narrative going.

If we could go back in time and start again I'd probably lean towards Johnson despite TLJ.
 

shiznit

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Just got out of it...

my son loved it... which I guess is what Disney is going for...

TBH I thought it was pretty meh... waaaay too much fan service.

I don’t want to give any spoilers but I will say they answer all the lingering questions... and I guess it does answer why Rey is so strong.

I f**king picked it in a thread going way back to TFA...

but to me it’s almost as if they were trying to tie up issues made by TLJ half the time.

I think it’s very clear they needed 1 writer/director fir the entire trilogy... this whole trilogy to me seemed like one of those games we played as a kid where you folded a paper in three and three different people drew each section of a character... just ended up with something a off...

anyway... I’ll sleep on it and see how I feel about it 2moro
 

bileduct

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That was a great big f**king yawnfest. What a mess. Fan service? Jesus Christ, I'm surprised Jar Jar Abrams wasn't waiting outside to personally blow everyone.

"We need more Holdo maneuvers!"

"That was a one in a million move!"

Hahahaha, f**k me.... Jar Jar just had to take a shit on Ruin Johnson even though he's an utter f**king hack himself.

Some Lost actors have obviously fallen on hard times.
 

Haffa

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I enjoyed it. Lots of fan service in their but we’ve all come to expect that now I really don’t care anymore.

Is it ok to say Old man Hamill struggles with anything beyond a cheesy smile or a brooding grandpa and that was part of the reason TLJ was such a frustration?
 

Springs09

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:joy::joy:

a Mary Sue??

So if she had a penis it would be okay??

:rolling_eyes::rolling_eyes:

who seriously cares....

Luke was the f**king same... dude was a f**king pro Jedi after poking a lightsaber at a floating ball with a helmet a few times.. Ohhh and jogging with Yoda on his back for a few days.

hell... going with that logic Mando’s probably almost a super duper Jedi as he’s been carrying a Yoda for a few weeks now and is even changing Yoda diapers...

Mary Sue... :joy::joy:

get the f**k outta here with that stupid shit...

characters have been written like that for 100 years... yet once they lose the Vagina the little dorks decide to give them a label... :rolling_eyes::rolling_eyes:

but they have no f**king problem with Bruce Wayne, James Bond even John f**king Wick...

I’m no feminist... but that argument is full of shit...

God you’re a little sook. Don’t dare criticise a female character or shiznit will be on you!
 

Generalzod

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That was a great big f**king yawnfest. What a mess. Fan service? Jesus Christ, I'm surprised Jar Jar Abrams wasn't waiting outside to personally blow everyone.

"We need more Holdo maneuvers!"

"That was a one in a million move!"

Hahahaha, f**k me.... Jar Jar just had to take a shit on Ruin Johnson even though he's an utter f**king hack himself.

Some Lost actors have obviously fallen on hard times.
The only reason why they made these new Star Wars films was to recoup the 5 billion dollars paid to George Lucas, that’s why you just had a Star Wars trilogy that made no sense as if they were meant to be watched individually the only good about the films was to pay homeage to the originally trilogy..
 
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shiznit

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God you’re a little sook. Don’t dare criticise a female character or shiznit will be on you!
You can criticise whoever you like...

just don’t start crying if I start ripping apart a stupid ‘Mary Sue’ argument.

I don’t give a f**k if the character is male or female... only internet dorks like you seem to care...
 

Matua

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Says the Last Jedi fan :joy:


Irony.
Says the prequels fan ... Irony.
This latest pile of shit will most likely rake in a billion dollars, but I'm sure that Disney would have been expecting much more than that.

The culmination of a 9 part series of films should have been an Avengers: Endgame level event. Instead it'll be on par with Captain Marvel, that movie people only went to see because they thought it would was "must see" viewing for Endgame.
Bahahaha, you're so full of crap, Captain Marvel was never marketed as must see viewing for Endgame.

All the little manbabies had meltdowns about it, then all made stupid predictions of failure and then had little meltdowns again when it didn't fail like they wanted it to. It was entertaining to see it play out.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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You can criticise whoever you like...

just don’t start crying if I start ripping apart a stupid ‘Mary Sue’ argument.

I don’t give a f**k if the character is male or female... only internet dorks like you seem to care...

There was less ripping apart an argument as much as there was oddly ranting about genitals.

The character would be just as bland regardless of gender and showed an unrealistic appitude for several abilities without earning them.

The character was just really poorly written.

However, Mary Sue is a term used to coin such a character if it's female and she fits a lot of characteristics of a Mary Sue. I doubt there will ever be a true Mary Sue as originally coined, but she sails pretty close to the wind thanks to Disney.
 

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