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Stay on your wing ffs!!

T.S Quint

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I Think there was a website that did do that for Eels games they did a couple but it does open your eyes on a few things I might get bored in the offseason and have a look at our games and do some screen shots of tries scored.

It’s really good way to get a look at the game after the fact. With losses especially most people don’t tend to go back and watch the game again, and so only have the emotion-fueled memory to fall back on.
 

JokerEel

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Ok Lets look back at Round 1:

Try 1 By Sivo.. (Well the wanker officials called it forwards..)

But it shows we do have some nice plays.

First Tackle in a 6 again set Reg goes to the left
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Tackle 2 Paulo take it back to the middle, this is where the magic happens..
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Reg and Moses have gone from the right to the left, Reg is a decoy Moses links up with Brown (which I love!)
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Which causes a 4 on 3 overlap and Sivo putting it down in the corner..
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JokerEel

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Official Try Number 1
This time we see Brown coming across to the right to create an overlap..
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After the Brown tackle Hodgo darts from dummy half creating huge overlap which Paulo (for the first time in his life doesn't pass)
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There is still a Huge overlap which we expose and score

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JokerEel

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Storm Try Number 1..

3 Men in the tackle and we couldnt get him to the ground and he gets a quick play the ball which leads to the try..
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3 players out of play but we still have numbers due to Gutho staying in the line who then cant cover out the back..
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Grant darts looks short but passes long which drags Carty in and Brown has to take the man leaving Meanie out the back free to take a pass.
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Blake comes in but its not his fault they then had an overlap . Meanie scores
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JokerEel

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Try 2:

Hodgo with some trick play here
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Munster rushes up as he always does, the inside Storm players only have eyes for Hodgo and miss that Paulo is pushing up and staying flatexpecting the ball to go out to Moses.
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Hodgo goes flat Paulo uses his speed and scores a nice try..
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JokerEel

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Stormer Try 2:

Storm already with an extra man from the scrum
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But Gutho and Hodgo come out of the scrum to cover the extra man
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Munster with the show and go which causes Moses to come in to tackle NAS, Penisni here should have raced in and belted Munster (maybe even an elbow to the head)
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Munster then burns Penisini for speed and get outside him Lumelume also needed to make a decision come in or slide not wait..
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Lumelume's speed and the Storm not passing to their winger almost stopped the try..
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We ended up with 3 players having a good crack at saving the try..
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JokerEel

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Storm Try 3:

Hopgood with the fatigue slow to get to marker and Grant seeing this.
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Dart from dummy half
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3 players plus Hodgson in the area to make the tackle but all just fell away.. ( I bet if they knew they need this win to make the 8 they all would have tried that extra few %)
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T.S Quint

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This was posted by Eric Grothe Jr on a Parra fan Facebook page. It was in reply to the regular ‘sTaY oN yOuR wInG’ comments about Sivo.

“Stay on your wing” truly is a non-educated supporter’s take on edge defence and unfortunately so many footy fans go straight to that when they’re frustrated. Believe me. I know 😂

If there are even just one pair of hips turning in opposed to staying square (facing opposition tryline), even if those turn hips are 4 or 5 defenders inside of the winger, very quickly the rest of the line has to compensate/adjust, leaving the winger in a 2 on 1 situation or sometimes worse.

The reason a winger then chooses to “go in” is often because if he “stayed on his wing” then the attacking ballplayer simply hits his centre who is also unmarked.

If a winger comes in it’s also often because it’s more of a challenge for the ballplayer to pass long rather than short, so wingers often come in and hope that their inside defenders peel around the back of them and cover the long pass. Obviously it depends on where you are on the field at the time.

Either way, if you really love footy and you’re someone who has to say something to or criticise a player after their game, just make
sure you never say “Stay on you wing” in front of too many people because without realising it, that player and those standing nearby who do know a bit more about the technical side of it all will immediately chuck you in the “punish” (dumb & loud) category and nothing you ever say about footy from that point onwards will ever hold any weight.

If it was as simple as “staying on your wing”, wingers would always stay on their wing.

Not to say wingers don’t ever get it wrong 🙋🏻‍♂️, just saying they often get the blame and often wrongly for the tiny mistakes (like in-turned hips) made by inside defenders.

Another thing. Sitting in the crowd or at home watching the tv and looking down upon the field gives a supporter a birds-eye view. Completely different to being on the field at eye level. Our video sessions were only the birds-eye camera angle so we could see it like a game of chess and not at eye level where there’s little time to think/react.

When watching from birds-eye view, it’s easy to see what a team should be doing 2-3 plays in advance because you can see the entire field from where you watch and you can see shapes, numbers and momentum from an easier perspective. When on the field at eye level, things are so fast and split-second decisions are made on a whim and a prayer.

Basically I never made a mistake… it was everyone else’s fault 😂

Nah but seriously… “Stay on your wing” as a criticism loses all respect, certainly from players and staff, but also from the smarter supporters.

Just though it would be interesting hearing from someone who actually played the position at the top level, as opposed to idiots sitting on the couch.
 

yy_cheng

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This was posted by Eric Grothe Jr on a Parra fan Facebook page. It was in reply to the regular ‘sTaY oN yOuR wInG’ comments about Sivo.



Just though it would be interesting hearing from someone who actually played the position at the top level, as opposed to idiots sitting on the couch.
Its guthos fault. We need a faster fb
 

Poupou Escobar

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To me its all Sivo.

The Ball leaves Boyds hands its not going to their fullback at all who Sivo races up to stop.

The center is covered by Brown, Simmonson has their fullback.
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At the same time, Sivo has scored plenty of tries untouched. Should his shitbag opponents have just stayed on their wing? It’s fine to trust your inside defender but that’s exactly how Penisini scored his try on the weekend. The opposition winger thought his opposite number was more of a threat than the merkin with the ball. Ultimately though, the defender has to make a decision and hope the attack makes a mistake. And if a winger jams in there should still be more defenders coming across in cover.
 

T-Boon

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I’d be going for intercepts. Fien to go in, then go out, then come in - confuse f**k out of the centre - then when they are visibly rattled and pass out of panic be there and snap it up. I’d do that every time.
 
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