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Generalzod

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Gould was an absolutely arrogant, disrespectful tool on the Footy Show today. I was hoping Gallop would get up and smack him in the mouth, which is exactly what he would have deserved. Fortunately Gallop has more class than that. All I heard from Gould was one excuse after another for the Storm cheating, trying to make out that they were the poor victims in all this. Then he rattles off a list of players that debuted at the Storm, AS IF NO OTHER CLUB HAS SUCH PLAYERS??? I'm not watching the show again this year. They are a blight on the game IMO. Disgusting.


Totally Agree with you and to think Vossy also played a video of a debate in 2007 about the salary cap and how fair it was (Waldrons words) all we got from Gould is poor Melbourne.
There a bunch of cheats an liars.
 

Scarves

Juniors
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I'm all about doing what's best for our game, whether if my point of view agrees to a certain extent with Phil Gould or whether that be Mahatma Cote, I really don't care. Many in here bag Gould for playing the man and not the issue, I think the same people do a similar thing when they criticise Gould for his thoughts on the Salary Cap as many of his points make clear sense.

There are many issues that are concerning for the game, but since the Storm saga, these issues relating to the Salary Cap have become pertinent to assist in preventing a situation where the game has to severely mutilate itself to cut out a cancer.

In that context here are three main issues which I believe are are imperitive for our game to either continue doing, or to start thinking about doing and in a hurry.

- We need to start to help our great game be in a position to keep our champions, this obviously relates to increased player payments for elite players. We need to keep our stars, our kids love them, the Gasniers, Lote's and the Sailors should have never left for the reasons they did. We have to as a game find a way to fix this issue. Whether that be through a 1 or 2 player per club Marquee (non counted salary) deal I don't really know what is best but something needs to be done.

- to raise the minimum player wage to at least $70K. If we raise the cap, we should also raise the minimum wage, so instead of the top flight talent scoring all the reward from a salary cap rise, the players on the lowest payments (which are about 60% of our current total NRL playing talent) need to be supported properly. These guys are young men from predominately working class backgrounds, and some from a young age have families. This is something a strong RLPA should be fighting hard for.

- to reward one club type players who have been developed by forward thinking development type club, thus encouraging all clubs to develop and invest in players from a young age. Perhaps if we have a rule in the cap that has a player who's been at a club for 10 years from debut and has only ever played first grade at that club, then when he reaches the age of 28 years old his salary should be counted only as 50% of his wage and when he turns 30 years old his salary shouldn't be counted within the cap at all. I think something like this has untold benefits, the biggest is keeping seniority at the clubs, seniority that assists the development of young players both on and off the field.

The Salary Cap in it's current form is not helping the the game and it is forcing both the champion players and the peripheral players out of our NRL competition way before their time, thus weakening the quality and depth of our competition. The Salary Cap is a necessity, but in its current form it is archaic.
 

DeeJ

Bench
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Exactly, this sort of thing should be encouraged. I for one am going to hate seeing Kris Inu in another clubs colours, just like im sure the Knights would love to have kept Tahu over the years.

Tahu left to get away from Hagan and play in the centers though. But I agree with you otherwise.
 

Hanscholo

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Another example of phil gould wasting the opportunity to make some changes because he cannot not grind his own axe.

The issue that phill failed to mention is that the storm side, choc full of players from other jnr areas were not raised by the storm at all. NONE of them were. They were poached, with huge dollars. Ofcourse Gus doesnt have an issue with that because his Roosters are the kings of it.

attacking gallop over and over is becoming a bore, sure you want the bloke gone...we all do. he has done a good job this week. I find it very difficult to have any sympathy for a side that is funded by the other clubs, then cheats, then has the hide to keep coming out telling everyone how they are the premiers etc...If the storm arent careful they will end up driving themselves out of the game.
 

nqcowboy87

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i think its time we brought in the bears as the 17th team, more teams to play for, therefore no losses to other codes
 
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Vicious

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Is that any different from how the likes of the Roosters and Parramatta poach players at a young age. Jarryd Hayne is not a Parramatta junior, he lived and played junior footy for Minto in the heart of Wests territory before Parramatta scouts come with their big cheque books at age 14 and lured him to play for Cabramatta so he could play junior reps for Parramatta. The Storm also lured Ryan Hoffman at a young age, but at that time the Wests Tigers already knew of Hoffmans abilities as he was starring in reserve grade at age 18.
 

big country

Juniors
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Totally Agree with you and to think Vossy also played a video of a debate in 2007 about the salary cap and how fair it was (Waldrons words) all we got from Gould is poor Melbourne.
There a bunch of cheats an liars.

gould should stick to just calling the games and not open his mouth with useless suggestions and opinions as to how the game should be run
 

barney gumble

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Yeah I've never minded Gould but he's lost me over this Storm issue. He really goosed himself on the sunday footy show, lost the plot completely.
He gave those examples of all the storm players who went to melbourne as young blokes and are still there. Gould tried to justify the deceit, lies and blantant cheating by saying the storm deserved to pay these players more because they turned them into first graders and rep players. bullsh*t!!!
All the players Gould mentioned were poached by news ltd from, mostly, QLD juniors. There are NO Victorian juniors playing for the storm.
EVERY club in the NRL raises juniors and later has to let them go because they comply with the salary cap. I'm sick of watching the Eels play and hearing commentators say how many 'former Eels' are in the opposition team.
Gould loves bagging the refs and calling on them to be punted for poor performance. Channel 9 should give Gould a long (preferably permanent) holiday after his baseless rants over this storm issue.
 
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Is that any different from how the likes of the Roosters and Parramatta poach players at a young age. Jarryd Hayne is not a Parramatta junior, he lived and played junior footy for Minto in the heart of Wests territory before Parramatta scouts come with their big cheque books at age 14 and lured him to play for Cabramatta so he could play junior reps for Parramatta.
so we bought one player parramatta still have plenty of home grown juniors
 

IanG

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Gallop has always sounded like a broken record though. "No other alternative" "No better solution"

As far as I'm concerned the sooner the Independent Commission is in place the better but I have to add that it has to a complete clean out with none of the same old shower in it. Anybody on there now must go and be started afresh.
 

butchmcdick

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Gallop has always sounded like a broken record though. "No other alternative" "No better solution"

As far as I'm concerned the sooner the Independent Commission is in place the better but I have to add that it has to a complete clean out with none of the same old shower in it. Anybody on there now must go and be started afresh.

Awesome. Get rid of everyone that actually has experience running the NRL and replace them with who ?
 

cornerposter

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Gould tried to justify the deceit, lies and blantant cheating by saying the storm deserved to pay these players more because they turned them into first graders and rep players. bullsh*t!!!
He wasn't justifying the deceit, he was taking potshots at Gallop about a Salary Cap that doesn't reward a club for turning 'potential' into First Grade talent.

FFS now I'm defending Gould, the worlds gone f*cking mad :crazy:
 
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Gould acted like a complete tool that he is on the Footy Show.

The whole panel on the Footy Show acted like tools.

Gallop was cannon fodder from the time he agreed to go on that Jerk of a Show.

Mr Gallop handled himself quite well against that moron who even had to interupt Mr Gallops final say!

Give yourself an uppercut Gould.
Power to you Mr Gallop
 

Jose93

Juniors
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http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...s-why-we-must-overhaul-nrl-20100403-rkot.html

A scary article by Mr Gould. What was he wrong about in that article again? Ok, so he knew it was coming - that was evident by his interview with Slater for The Footy Show a couple of weeks ago as well, but Gould's been speaking the truth for a long period of time. He's attacked News Limited's involvement for a long time, he's attacked David Gallop's hopeless leadership and he's attacked the crazy referees ruining games. He's got an agenda, but overall it's not one I disagree with.
 

Freddo

Juniors
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As fans of the game we are all hurt. now who are the ones being punished the storm, the other teams, the nrl or the fans.

we can argue a case for each one of these. first and foremost i agree with gus and everyone else who has said it. get the storm roster under $4.1 mil and let them earn points from that moment on. clubs are going to be getting a perstenage of the 1.1 mil fine. which like was stated could be used to pay some of the players that the storm will get. i dont see the storm cutting any big name players unless they want out. eg like jeff lima.

this is the game we love and its a game for the fans. and us as fans should have the right to decided what the out come for the storm should be.

like the nrl should put foward 3 possible solutions and let us the rugby league going public decide what happens.

were the ones who work our arses off, to pay the bills and do that little bit extra just so we can have an enjoyable time at the footy once a fornight roughly when our teams play at home
 

big country

Juniors
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heard Fool Gould on radio saying 'i still cant get my head around why the Storm have to finish below any other team' - aaah daaah, maybe it's because the cheated?? That they are even allowed to play this season is a big bonus for them
 

Springs

First Grade
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Really getting sick of the hate now. All the fools of so-called fans on this site seem to think that punishing cheats is more important than what is best for the NRL. It is like saying killing Hitler is more important than rebuilding the lands of Europe he destroyed.

Seriously sick of the hate. Getting to the stage where I would almost rather te Storm play on with an illegal team. At the end of the day it is 17 on 17, the only difference to me is that one team was being paid more than they should, not that they had too many good players. This is simply the result of greed and business, the effects it has had on the game is unbelievable. Footy really should not be about all this salary cap crap. It has always just been about 17 players on 17 players, out there for the love of it. Get back to that.

Stuff Business. Stuff Greed.
 

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