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Superthread LXXIII: Honouring He Who Shall Not Be Named

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Misanthrope

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Might have to ditch my Ashley Madison account

:lol: Serves them right tbh. If you're going to sleep around and get off on the thrill at the prospect of being caught, then you pay the consequences when you do get caught.
 

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For sure.

Some people though (and I don't mean Mis here just to be clear) come back from travel with a sense of superiority and bitch about everything that isn't as good as the 2 months they spend overseas with no responsibilities.

The opposite problem is merkins who go on a holiday and loudly proclaim how much better everything is back home when they don't get their way.

But mostly what I don't understand is why people feel guilty or ashamed because some dickhead they didn't vote for happens to run the country poorly for 3 years. These same people tend to be anti-nationalism, frown upon people with a strong sense of national pride, but are happy to jump all aboard the shame train when something negative happens. Baffling.

But it's true. :crazy: :sarcasm: :cool:
 

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I should make it clear that I'm bloody proud to be Australian. I love our social welfare system (while it lasts), I love our country's national beauty, I'm damned proud of our many achievements across countless fields, and I love a lot about our culture.

Just not a huge fan of Australians sometimes :lol:
 

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Yeah. I really do love Australia, but then I also love when I get tor travel around areas that aren't Australia.

There's a point that being out of the country can give you a bit more objectivity over your views of your home country, gives a different reference point.

I think I could easily live in some other areas, but there's something about this place which is quite unique, given our bush and our wildlife and such, which I love. Being overseas once where there had been a plantation of eucalypts, that smell takes you home straight away.


Good Henry Lawson poem about the immediacy of that sensation -

http://www.telelib.com/authors/L/LawsonHenry/prose/billyboils_1/countryafterall.html

I love Australia and time overseas has really made me appreciate it here, but I don't think I could live here anymore.
 

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Good Henry Lawson poem about the immediacy of that sensation -

http://www.telelib.com/authors/L/LawsonHenry/prose/billyboils_1/countryafterall.html

I love Australia and time overseas has really made me appreciate it here, but I don't think I could live here anymore.

That's pretty much my stance. Every time I've come home for an extended period of time, I've quickly become unhappy. It's just not for me anymore. Nothing wrong with it or with the people who love living there, but for me it's not 'home'.
 

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That's pretty much my stance. Every time I've come home for an extended period of time, I've quickly become unhappy. It's just not for me anymore. Nothing wrong with it or with the people who love living there, but for me it's not 'home'.

In a nutshell. This.
 

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I'm not and I never will be a patriot. I find it hard to be objectively proud of a country as I don't believe that Australia is objectively better than a multitude of countries. Even in areas where it can be quantified in terms of various metrics that Australia achieves greater results than other countries it has occurred through luck and conquest rather than as a result of some kind of divine fiat that would make Australia inherently better than any other nation-state.
 

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I believe if you can't be proud of where you come from, your nation and culture and history in all its glory and for all its flaws, then you can never understand or be proud of yourself. Just IMO.
 

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I believe if you can't be proud of where you come from, your nation and culture and history in all its glory and for all its flaws, then you can never understand or be proud of yourself. Just IMO.

I'm very proud of myself and elements of Australia. I'm not overly proud of our history (genocide etc.)
 

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There are parts to be proud of and parts not. As with any country. I have a lot I could say on the matter but tbh I've been standing by a dark road waiting for a ranger to put down a poor little roo in the rain and cold and I'm going to bed....
 

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There are parts to be proud of and parts not. As with any country. I have a lot I could say on the matter but tbh I've been standing by a dark road waiting for a ranger to put down a poor little roo in the rain and cold and I'm going to bed....

Right after you submitted South Canberra orders, right?



Right?



























Right?
 

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I do really like Australia and it feels vaguely homey, but you know there is trouble when you go out with some friends for Thai food and you can't have anything with peanuts or spiciness.

I mean, seriously, wtf? why bother? Might as well have Pizza without tomato base.

Six months will be enough for me imo. Enjoying it now, won't be enjoying by Christmas.
 

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I do really like Australia and it feels vaguely homey, but you know there is trouble when you go out with some friends for Thai food and you can't have anything with peanuts or spiciness.

I mean, seriously, wtf? why bother? Might as well have Pizza without tomato base.

Six months will be enough for me imo. Enjoying it now, won't be enjoying by Christmas.

I'm home for six-seven weeks after this current trip and that ought to do it for me. Celebrate Christmas with the family, catch up with my friends, and then blast off again to someplace different via China.
 
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Sure, Australia has its faults. Every country does.

What I find funny is how the people that rubbish it are generally the same people you see waving an Aussie passport in the air like a winning lottery ticket as soon as they're caught up in any sort of shit overseas.

I've travelled extensively through Europe (including Scandinavia) and Asia. Been to the likes of Fiji and Hawaii as well. Nowhere I've been so far even comes close to this great country of ours.
 

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By a lot of metrics though the Scandinavian countries are better. More income equality, better healthcare system, less religious, broadly more tolerant.
 

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Sure, Australia has its faults. Every country does.

What I find funny is how the people that rubbish it are generally the same people you see waving an Aussie passport in the air like a winning lottery ticket as soon as they're caught up in any sort of shit overseas.

Can't say I've ever been caught up in shit overseas. I do my best not to make an asshole of myself when I leave the country. I've got to make up for my countrymen and what they've done to Phuket and Bali.
 

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That's pretty much my stance. Every time I've come home for an extended period of time, I've quickly become unhappy. It's just not for me anymore. Nothing wrong with it or with the people who love living there, but for me it's not 'home'.

I wonder if you or the others that prefer life overseas would feel a little different if you didn't have the option of coming back. Rhetorical question obviously as the option will never be taken away from you, but is Australia to you (and others) just a comfy old slipper in the back of the cupboard so to speak? Not that great when its only a short jump away, but things would change if were accidentally sent out with the garbage.
 
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