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T-Boon

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Agreed that its not entirely a new problem but its been extremely noticeable this time and London.

But on a general note, I was reading something that the only individual male winners we have had since 1992 are as follows;

Thorpe - 3 times
Hackett -2 times
Perkins- 2 times
Horton -1

Its a very small list isn't it... for all of the success we think we have had in that time its only our elite that can break through at the Olympics......

The women have been better but still I can think of a lot of disappointments mixed in with the Jodie Henry's and Stephanie Rice's....

I know that the US has their college system but I still don't see how this impacts on our guys not swimming their best in the Olympic Finals.. Also other countries athletes that don't attend US colleges can bring their A game to the Olympic finals...

Perhaps there is a psychological thing where they qualify for the team ( which lets be honest is an amazing achievement in its own right) but they celebrate this perhaps to much and then they just do their own thing for 4 months whilst the rest of the world increases their hunger and workloads...

As I demonstrated with Horton earlier, the task has probably just started when you qualify for the team... More likely than not, you are going to have to improve on this time to win, yet the majority seem to go backwards...

Interesting...the other thing that shows is all our success has been at distance freestyle.
We should fully priorities those event as they are winnable for us (in that I don't think the Americans are too fussed about the 400 and 1500 and probably don't have too many 200 either).
Maybe we should have a big $ prize race for 400 and 1500 each year so that all our freestylers just focus on that.
 

Frankus

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Interesting...the other thing that shows is all our success has been at distance freestyle.
We should fully priorities those event as they are winnable for us (in that I don't think the Americans are too fussed about the 400 and 1500 and probably don't have too many 200 either).
Maybe we should have a big $ prize race for 400 and 1500 each year so that all our freestylers just focus on that.
Well the US were fussed enough about the 1500 to offer Hackett citizenship and $1mil to compete for them at Athens I believe. They want to win every event at the Olympics if possible.
 

Shorty

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Well the US were fussed enough about the 1500 to offer Hackett citizenship and $1mil to compete for them at Athens I believe. They want to win every event at the Olympics if possible.
Why does this not surprise me,
 

nick87

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Just here to vent about how much i hate James Magnussen
God he's a piece. He ruined the Olympics for everyone last time and by god he's done it again.

We should make him swim home, cancel his citizenship halfway here and then when he gets within sights of our majestic beaches, we should detain him as an illegal and ship him off to Christmas Island for processing.

f**k James Magnussen, Forever and always.
 

Micky75

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Just here to vent about how much i hate James Magnussen
God he's a piece. He ruined the Olympics for everyone last time and by god he's done it again.

We should make him swim home, cancel his citizenship halfway here and then when he gets within sights of our majestic beaches, we should detain him as an illegal and ship him off to Christmas Island for processing.

f**k James Magnussen, Forever and always.

Well, I think 4 years ago the weight a nation was on him & he was a young fella and also, we never won the 100m freestyle - it was .02-3 margin.

I like Mack De!!! He calls a spade a spade - I'll noticed some members saying they're trolls with different threads - parra thread, manly, sharks and so forth - Mack getting hammered by Chinese posters - haha - personally I reckon Mack doesn't give too hoops.

I'm past my bedtime - Lol! Starting at noon tomorrow.

It's quite insightful with different posters. I'm amazing I haven't swore too much. Aspasia it's hard to express the extant words, but with swear words it's plain & simple.
 

alien

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Rio 2016: Lilly King 'wags the finger' and calls out at drug cheat rival Yuliya Efimova to stoke grudge match flames
Efimova was cleared to compete in Rio after winning an eleventh hour appeal against a doping ban
Monday 8 August 2016

Lilly King, the American swimming medal hope, has become something of a cult hero in her home country after sending a message to her Russian rival Yuliya Efimova.

Efimova was cleared to compete at the Rio Olympic Games after winning an eleventh hour appeal against a doping ban.

The Russian was banned by the IOC for having previously served a suspension for doping, only to have the decision overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport on Saturday.

Efimova subsequently won the first women’s 100m breaststroke semi-final and celebrated by wagging her finger, apparently demonstrating that she was ‘no 1’.

King had performed the same move earlier in the day and, watching Efimova on TV, responded in king, with a gesture reminiscent of the former basketball player Dikembe Mutombo’s trademark.

The 19-year-old Evansville-born swimmer then beat her rival’s time to claim top seed position in Monday’s final.

“You wave your finger ‘No1’ and you’ve been caught drug cheating … I’m not a fan”, King later told NBC.

The crowd in Rio’s Olympic Aquatics Stadium has greeted Efimova’s appearances at the pool with boos. The 24-year-old Russian also failed a test for meldonium earlier this year but her provisional suspension was lifted by Fina, world swimming's governing body.

The showdown between the King and Efimova on Monday promises to provide this Games’ first true grudge match.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...iya-efimova-finger-wag-swimming-a7178396.html
(includes video)
 

Twizzle

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Emma McKeon on why she was not at her best.

She swam late in the night got to bed well after midnight then got woken up before 6 AM for a doping test, couldn't get back to sleep.

FMD.
 

hineyrulz

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Emma McKeon on why she was not at her best.

She swam late in the night got to bed well after midnight then got woken up before 6 AM for a doping test, couldn't get back to sleep.

FMD.
lol, oh boo hoo!! How soft are these swimmers???? Get all the cash and all the endorsements and offer very little.
 

Shorty

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lol, oh boo hoo!! How soft are these swimmers???? Get all the cash and all the endorsements and offer very little.
Yeah I dont think our swimmers earn that much "cash".

Getting woken up at ridiculous o'clock for a drug test if you're clean would be annoying.
Has Mack Hortons family apologised???
If so they shouldn't have, China needs to get over themselves.
 

hineyrulz

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Yeah I dont think our swimmers earn that much "cash".

Getting woken up at ridiculous o'clock for a drug test if you're clean would be annoying.
Has Mack Hortons family apologised???
If so they shouldn't have, China needs to get over themselves.
They get the majority of the money from the AOC compared to other sports. And time and time again they choke on the big stage when it matters.
 

Shorty

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Again, Emma has never won anything at olympic level (apart from the relay) and the butterfly event the best she has ever got was bronze 2 years ago at CG.
She tends to do better at freestyle.

I'm beginning to think people don't really follow these swimmers apart from the olympics..
 

nick87

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Well, I think 4 years ago the weight a nation was on him & he was a young fella and also, we never won the 100m freestyle - it was .02-3 margin.

I like Mack De!!! He calls a spade a spade - I'll noticed some members saying they're trolls with different threads - parra thread, manly, sharks and so forth - Mack getting hammered by Chinese posters - haha - personally I reckon Mack doesn't give too hoops.

I'm past my bedtime - Lol! Starting at noon tomorrow.

It's quite insightful with different posters. I'm amazing I haven't swore too much. Aspasia it's hard to express the extant words, but with swear words it's plain & simple.

Mack Daddy won us a gold. He can do as he f**king pleases and that cheating f**king chinese bastard and his countrymen can suck it
Hope Mack Daddy give its to him in the 1500 too, after Perko and Hackett, it doesnt seem right that Australia isnt dominating the 1500m
 

hineyrulz

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Again, Emma has never won anything at olympic level (apart from the relay) and the butterfly event the best she has ever got was bronze 2 years ago at CG.
She tends to do better at freestyle.

I'm beginning to think people don't really follow these swimmers apart from the olympics..
The two choking backstrokers were world champs, I wasn't just singling out one swimmer. They are all overrated pampered sooks. Mack is the few with a bit of merkin in him. They all should have his sort of attitude.
 

BuffaloRules

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Again, Emma has never won anything at olympic level (apart from the relay) and the butterfly event the best she has ever got was bronze 2 years ago at CG.
She tends to do better at freestyle.

I'm beginning to think people don't really follow these swimmers apart from the olympics..

I agree that she is a better freestyler and was never really going to be a threat in the 100m Fly......

I am a bit concerned though about her mental toughness to deliver on the big stage although her lead off in the 100m relay was good.

McKeown swam 1.54.83 at the Aust Trials in April for the 200m Free ...

Lets she how she goes tonight...
 

BuffaloRules

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The two choking backstrokers were world champs, I wasn't just singling out one swimmer. They are all overrated pampered sooks. Mack is the few with a bit of merkin in him. They all should have his sort of attitude.

I agree mate...

There seems a bit of preciousness in some members of the team
 

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