Switching codes? Warriors approach Spencer

[OVP]

How old is he ?

I know his skills are tremendous and i think he'd be great value for the warriors and league in general.

 

[The Camden Leisure Pirate]

How old is he ?

I know his skills are tremendous and i think he'd be great value for the warriors and league in general.

He is 29 mate.

 

[OVP]

How old is he ?

I know his skills are tremendous and i think he'd be great value for the warriors and league in general.

He is 29 mate.

Thats far from old ... he still has another 4 years in him ... i reckon it'd be great. Go Carlos !!

 

[Garts]

From the fact the backline spends half the game lined up simply waiting for the ball to come out of the ruck and maul.

Ask Wendell, Lote and Rogers who's backline sees more ball.

As far as pressure is concerned do you really think the avergage game of Super 12's has the same sustained intensity as an NRL game? The slower the game the more time you have.

you said they get more time and room to move in union than league boys do. nothing was said about how much ball the boys get.

dont forget Union does not have the 10 metre rule like league, this cuts down the time and space given to the halves in Union.

 

[League Freak™]

One thing is for sure....he'd be better then Stacey Jones who is playing like s**t.


I think this bloke is worth a punt as far as the Warriors are concerned. Play him at 5/8th, move Fein to halfback......they'd then atleast have some direction and got rid of some of the cancer from their club.


Next on this list, getting rid of Clinton Toopi.

You must be ripping your gruts seeing Stacey is running 3rd/4th in the Dally M's this year. It must be tearing you to shreds to see your prejudged opinion of him is being laughed at by the rugby league pundits.

Prejudged?



Oh....thats right....the Warriors want to get rid of him because he is playing well. :roll:


He is a loser, a cancer and the warriors will be a much better team with him.


Once4 he has gone, the have a few more players with similar attitudes to get rid of...they need to bring through the young players and get back to trying to build a winning culture.

 

[Darth Bobo]

From the fact the backline spends half the game lined up simply waiting for the ball to come out of the ruck and maul.

Ask Wendell, Lote and Rogers who's backline sees more ball.

As far as pressure is concerned do you really think the avergage game of Super 12's has the same sustained intensity as an NRL game? The slower the game the more time you have.

Disagree.

Remember, the halves have to contend with the opposition standing in their face when they receive the ball, whereas in league you get a free 10 metre start to create some space for yourself.

But the ball doesn't get centralised in League like it does in Union when the ball is in the ruck and maul. The defence may be back 10 metres but it's also coming at you 10 metres faster than the slow lumbering Union defensive line. And it happens every tackle, not just when the time is right.

 

[The Camden Leisure Pirate]

From the fact the backline spends half the game lined up simply waiting for the ball to come out of the ruck and maul.

Ask Wendell, Lote and Rogers who's backline sees more ball.

As far as pressure is concerned do you really think the avergage game of Super 12's has the same sustained intensity as an NRL game? The slower the game the more time you have.

you said they get more time and room to move in union than league boys do. nothing was said about how much ball the boys get.

dont forget Union does not have the 10 metre rule like league, this cuts down the time and space given to the halves in Union.

And there are two more players on the field,
who's jobs it is basically to hit you as soon as you get the ball,
if you are playing Fly Half/ 5/8.

 

[shiznit]

ive been a huge fan of Los' since i 1st saw him play for Horowhenua against Auckland when he was a school boy.

he has sublime skills when it comes to attack but in the last few years his defence has been pathetic to say the least. if he's serious about the switch then he needs to really work on his defence. its weird because i remember back about 3-4 years ago he used to put in some huge hits then after his knee operation he seemed to have lost confidence in his defence.

ive been wanting him to play league ever since i 1st saw him play. he's always seemed abit of a waste in rugby union. i think if he swtiched to league with the extra room and space he can really show off his skills.

On Stacey Jones, it would be sad to see a guy like stacey go. hes done so much for NZRL and the Warriors. Stacey to the Warriors is like Chief and Joey to Newcastle, E.T is to Cronulla, Alf to Brissy, Wally Lewis to QLD. hes been the heart and soul of the Warriors from the start. if he was booted out of the club by watson and his cronies then that would be a very sad day indeed for NZRL and the Warriors.

 

[Garts]

From the fact the backline spends half the game lined up simply waiting for the ball to come out of the ruck and maul.

Ask Wendell, Lote and Rogers who's backline sees more ball.

As far as pressure is concerned do you really think the avergage game of Super 12's has the same sustained intensity as an NRL game? The slower the game the more time you have.

Disagree.

Remember, the halves have to contend with the opposition standing in their face when they receive the ball, whereas in league you get a free 10 metre start to create some space for yourself.

But the ball doesn't get centralised in League like it does in Union when the ball is in the ruck and maul. The defence may be back 10 metres but it's also coming at you 10 metres faster than the slow lumbering Union defensive line. And it happens every tackle, not just when the time is right.

you have me confused with this. I dont see your point.

anyway, watch a game of Union and see how little time the halves have.

 

[shiznit]

From the fact the backline spends half the game lined up simply waiting for the ball to come out of the ruck and maul.

Ask Wendell, Lote and Rogers who's backline sees more ball.

As far as pressure is concerned do you really think the avergage game of Super 12's has the same sustained intensity as an NRL game? The slower the game the more time you have.

Disagree.

Remember, the halves have to contend with the opposition standing in their face when they receive the ball, whereas in league you get a free 10 metre start to create some space for yourself.

But the ball doesn't get centralised in League like it does in Union when the ball is in the ruck and maul. The defence may be back 10 metres but it's also coming at you 10 metres faster than the slow lumbering Union defensive line. And it happens every tackle, not just when the time is right.

Mate, the Openside Flanker's(number 7) Job is to rush up as quickly as possible on the First Five. especially against spencer. theres a rule to playing against Los'. if you give him time he will cut you to shreads. if you come up on him quickly and cut his time and space hes prone to having brain explosions.

 

[Misty Bee]

Spencer would wind up in Premier League. Watch the first Willy Mason/Nathan Hindmarsh/Shane Webcke/Ben Kennedy charge at him and see how his Union-learned tackling skills stand up. ball skills may be OK, but as League is so much faster, he'd struggle.

Union defences don't rush uplike League's do - there is no need for the defence to negate the 10m that Leagues has to. Therefore, a League 5/8 would play closer to the BULK of the defence than Union fly halves. They would also handle the ball a hell of a lot more. That's why a lot of League fullbacks (Lockeyer, Peachey, Bowen) play a 5/8ish role in attack, because they come from deeper and have more time against a rushing defence.

Has anyone heard about Andy Farrell defecting?

 

[Misty Bee]

Mate, the Openside Flanker's(number 7) Job is to rush up as quickly as possible on the First Five. especially against spencer. theres a rule to playing against Los'. if you give him time he will cut you to shreads. if you come up on him quickly and cut his time and space hes prone to having brain explosions.

Nullified by a sidestep. One player rushing out of the line is not like a wall of 10 players doing it.

 

[Iafeta]

From the fact the backline spends half the game lined up simply waiting for the ball to come out of the ruck and maul.

Ask Wendell, Lote and Rogers who's backline sees more ball.

As far as pressure is concerned do you really think the avergage game of Super 12's has the same sustained intensity as an NRL game? The slower the game the more time you have.

Disagree.

Remember, the halves have to contend with the opposition standing in their face when they receive the ball, whereas in league you get a free 10 metre start to create some space for yourself.

But the ball doesn't get centralised in League like it does in Union when the ball is in the ruck and maul. The defence may be back 10 metres but it's also coming at you 10 metres faster than the slow lumbering Union defensive line. And it happens every tackle, not just when the time is right.

Disagree again. Just like league, you can lose go forward and space through being driven over in a ruck.

The Blues pack hasn't been that good over the past 4-5 years, so constantly he's getting either slow ball, or poor quality ball out from the forwards.

Centralised? Rah-rah seems to play more blind side than league.

 

[League Freak™]

Can anyone think of a supposed star player thats has lose more games then Jones?

 

[shiznit]

Mate, the Openside Flanker's(number 7) Job is to rush up as quickly as possible on the First Five. especially against spencer. theres a rule to playing against Los'. if you give him time he will cut you to shreads. if you come up on him quickly and cut his time and space hes prone to having brain explosions.

Nullified by a sidestep. One player rushing out of the line is not like a wall of 10 players doing it.

:lol:
that easy is it!! :lol:
wow, youve figured out the key to winning rugby union games!! use the step!! :roll:
you try stepping Richie McCaw, Marty Holah, Josh Blackie, George Smith, and Schalk Berger :roll:
as for Premier League goes, 1st off if he plays for the warriors he wont be playing PL. and his defence is no worse then Stacey Jones, Matt Orford or Benji Marshalls. he would probably defend out wide. hes also a Fullback in union so he knows how to tackle. if he were to make the switch he would go over his defence. as for Willy Mason and whoever else you were talking about, your ignorant arent ya. do you think League is the only sport with big strong runners? hes played and Defended against players like Jonah Lomu and Jerry Collins. im sure he can cope.

 

[Tighthead]

Spencer would wind up in Premier League. Watch the first Willy Mason/Nathan Hindmarsh/Shane Webcke/Ben Kennedy charge at him and see how his Union-learned tackling skills stand up. ball skills may be OK, but as League is so much faster, he'd struggle.

Good call - that's why no union player could ever make it in league.

 

[shiznit]

Can anyone think of a supposed star player thats has lose more games then Jones?

Craig Gower

 

[Iafeta]

Can anyone think of a supposed star player thats has lose more games then Jones?

The Warriors record over their existence is W114-L128 which is 47%.

I'm fairly sure you'll find Cowboys players with far worse record. He also spent most of one year out with a broken arm, where the Warriors didn't go too flash. And didn't start until later in the year in 1995, again after the horse had bolted a fair bit. So he's probably closer to 50%.

Don't let preconcieved ideas though get in the way of a good dribble.

 

[Iafeta]

Can anyone think of a supposed star player thats has lose more games then Jones?

Craig Gower

In all honesty, I'd like to see the comparison. You are probably right.

 

[Jordan]

I think he'd go alright in League. The first time I really watched Union was the 2003 World Cup.. Not too many players impressed me, but he did. He reminded me of Andrew Johns, only not as good..