Switching codes? Warriors approach Spencer

[Iafeta]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Look at all these idiots.

"Hey, I'll bag Gower...that will show him" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Did I say Gower was good. No.



Jones has done nothing, won nothing. His career reads even worse then Frank Endacotts.



So give it up. Jones has nothing.....a bloke from a different sport would be better and the club knows it!

:roll: Slava, slava, come out from hiding.

I was wondering where he went, thought he'd got banned - no, he's just reinvented himself into the Covell clan, and League Frank. Welcome back slava.

One of your best nospam49. Said nothing, proved nothing, your comments read worse than Mr Ed's. And to think you even did yourself up a website to spank off about how good you are. If only you knew the truth :lol: Onya slava.

 

[shiznit]

i think the best switch made from League to union was brad thorn. he had a bloody harder switch than the other wingers in aussie and he didnt do it for the mega bucks that the others got. he did it because it was his childhood dream to represent the all blacks. and he did it ofcourse. great story that.

 

[Bumble]

Carlos Spencer is the best union player. I'd love to have him at Souths, so good pickup for the Warriors.

 

[Misty Bee]

that easy is it!!
wow, youve figured out the key to winning rugby union games!! use the step!!
you try stepping Richie McCaw, Marty Holah, Josh Blackie, George Smith, and Schalk Berger

For the slow, I'll rephrase. The argument was made that Spencer usually has one player rushing out of the line on him. Same as a League player on the 6th tackle attempting a kick. Mostly, the kicker merely sidesteps, and kicks. Lockeyer, Kimmorley, Orford and Johns di it habitually (Gower doesn't because he's too bloody slow, but I digress...)

In League, defensive lines rush up. In Union, because the seperation distances are different, this isn't usually done. Plus, the extra 2 men mean that a sliding defence is not needed as much. sliding depends on mobility, as done the umbrella defence.

But yes, sometimes a sidestep is all that's needed to beat a typical Union defence. That, or 16 consecutive penalty goals.

as for Willy Mason and whoever else you were talking about, your ignorant arent ya. do you think League is the only sport with big strong runners? hes played and Defended against players like Jonah Lomu and Jerry Collins. im sure he can cope

Jonah Lomu. Pfft.

We sent Wendell over to put the Rugby World into orgasm at the prospect of them going head to head. The fact that Wendell was constantly monstered by Adam MacDougall escaped Union's notice. Young Eric Grothe didn't do a bad job on him either.

League has bigger stronger runners, because they are fitter. And used to the impact of gang tackles, and not the laboriuos slog of ruck and mauls.

I look forward to Hindy running at Spencer the next time we meet!

 

[Tighthead]

The fact that Wendell was constantly monstered by Adam MacDougall escaped Union's notice. Young Eric Grothe didn't do a bad job on him either.

Must have escaped league's notice too, given their respective representative records.

Big fan of revisionist history are you.

"Wendell only went to union because he was a failure at league."

 

[Garts]

the old Union v League debate. Hard to compare as both are very different games.

Not too many league forwards would make it in Union and the same for Union forwards in League.

Good to see things dont change, people bash Union when they have no idea about the game and Union people do the same to league. Personally I can appreciate both games!!!

 

[Misty Bee]

Misty Bee you will find not many have switched over when league went full time pro as Union also did around the same time. League was semi pro previously so Union players would come across for $ as Union was still amateur.

Once Union went professional and the players got paid why would they come over to league? thats the reason why not many union people stand out in league as not many have come across.

Very true, but quite a few still enter League at Flegg level (or equivalent). Still, whose to say that the Flegg player from Union isn't from the top of the talent pool for their age? Ben Kennedy springs to mind as an example.

Union always looked after their stars with cash payments. Now it's a transparent process, like Leagues. What is different is the pool size. There are approx 45 pro Union players in Australia, and 375 pro League players. Prospective Union juniors have a far wider career path in League. Therefore, if they are up to it, Union juniors represent potentially a rich mine for League talent scouts. Hence my question.

 

[Tighthead]

Good to see things dont change, people bash Union when they have no idea about the game and Union people do the same to league. Personally I can appreciate both games!!!

Except no ones bashing league here.

 

[Misty Bee]

Must have escaped league's notice too, given their respective representative records.

Big fan of revisionist history are you.

"Wendell only went to union because he was a failure at league."

Wendell never scored a try in his entire Origin career. That's some indication. Mostly because of MacDougall, but partly because of Sailor's own ability levels. Sailor was certainly not a failure at League. BUt he wasn't the best either, unlike yourmob who likened his signature to Dally Messengers!

But if you can only quote stats, rather than watching the game, you had better stick to Union websites. Or under the bridge where trolls are supposed to live.

 

[Garts]

well you would hope not tighthead, it is a league forum.

 

[Misty Bee]

Maybe Tighthead's a Union forum contributor who has switched codes!

And, typically Union, he's struggling!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Parrasque]

The chance to be one of the few dual internationals for NZ may be the temptation needed to get him into league.


Remember there was the same story about Jonah Lomu a few years back, it wasn't true and i am unsure this one will be.

 

[Big_Bad_Shark_Fan]

Carlos is a freak
honestly aruond the world cup time was the best player in the world

 

[ozbash]

Whats Stacey got?

a pair of golden boots

Jones has done nothing, won nothing

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: you are a tosspot, you do not know what you are talking about.

ive watched that guy since his debut in the auckland vulcans and even as a 17 year old stace had class written all over him.

the 'greatest' player in the world ( well according to the aussies), andrew johns said stacey was the best player he has ever had the privilege to play against.

wipe your chin freak, your mouth runneth over,, again

 

[ozbash]

carlos would be ok, maybe.

the guy is way too unpredictable, even carlos doesnt know what carlos is going to do.

 

[t-ba]

Union Players do have more time to plan attack.

Unlike league, where players tend to just try and immediately regain momentum in attack if it is lost (momentum=Key in the 10m gap game), Union halves will often take thier time in clearing the ball allowing the backline to set. The fact that the ball tends to move less upfield with every play also assists this. I don't think there's much doubt that when the ball is genuinely in play in union there is probably less time to make a decision, but that is more than made up by all of the time the ball is lying at the bottom of a ruck or somewhere in the crush of bodies that is a maul.

That said, It'd be 'interesting' to See Carlos play league. can't see it happening though.

 

[strong_latte]

Carlos played quite alot of league in his earlier career in NZ and said in an interview once that in some ways he liked it more than union because you get more ball and better space... He's definately got the skills for league and he'd be a great lift for the warriors.

 

[Iafeta]

Must have escaped league's notice too, given their respective representative records.

Big fan of revisionist history are you.

"Wendell only went to union because he was a failure at league."

Wendell never scored a try in his entire Origin career. That's some indication. Mostly because of MacDougall, but partly because of Sailor's own ability levels. Sailor was certainly not a failure at League. BUt he wasn't the best either, unlike yourmob who likened his signature to Dally Messengers!

But if you can only quote stats, rather than watching the game, you had better stick to Union websites. Or under the bridge where trolls are supposed to live.

Wendell Sailor has been particularly poor at rugby union.

I think he was a far more successful rugby league player than a union player. He doesn't have the attributes or tactical skills more to the point to play union to the level he played league at.

 

[Matt M]

I think Carlos Spencer is one of the few union 5/8's that could make it far in league. He seems to play a lot more like a league 5/8 than other do. Stephen Larkham is one who I don't think would make it, he is a great union 5/8 but he just doesn't seem to play enough like a league 5/8 does.

 

[shiznit]

Jonah Lomu. Pfft.

We sent Wendell over to put the Rugby World into orgasm at the prospect of them going head to head. The fact that Wendell was constantly monstered by Adam MacDougall escaped Union's notice. Young Eric Grothe didn't do a bad job on him either

you mention Jonah Lomu in the same vein as Wendell Sailor? Jonah was twice.... wait.... 10 times better than anything Wendell had to offer. Jonah at his peak was the best winger to ever lace a boot. in both codes. the likes of Wendell, Lote, both Guru Snr and Jnr had nothing on him.
if you cant see that then your dillusional.
as for hindy,
look..... im a parra fan. have been since i was about 5 years old. but dont get me started on hindy. hes physically strong and has speed to burn. hes quite an athlete. but sometimes i jusr get the feeling hes soft upstairs. he seems to be awesome in the premiorship games. but when it comes to the big stuff, he seems to be mentally abit weak. infact, the bloke pissed me off after we lost to the knights in 01'. the guy started crying!! brian smith had to hold him like his little daughter!! and hes the leader of our forward pack? yeah, im sure Los' will be quaking in his boots.