Tedesco rumour

[BrissyRedV]

Everybody please stop speculating about who the club can or can't afford due to salary cap increases. It doesn't work like that. It is calculated as a % of the salary cap. So if the salary cap goes up 10%, every players salary goes up by 10%. The only tricky part is TPAs but in relation or compared to professionally run clubs, TPAs isn't something SGI have to worry about.

No it doesn't.
https://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencecentre/salarycap/tabid/10434/default.aspx

 

[JDHD]

Have they confirmed that yet? Because last week, Graham only signed a two year deal because of uncertainty over next years cap. He is on record saying as much.

One of the RLPA reps was on Triple M a few weeks ago. He said it'll be more than 9, less than 10, so probably $9.5 mil

 

[dragonssamy61]

Everybody please stop speculating about who the club can or can't afford due to salary cap increases. It doesn't work like that. It is calculated as a % of the salary cap. So if the salary cap goes up 10%, every players salary goes up by 10%. The only tricky part is TPAs but in relation or compared to professionally run clubs, TPAs isn't something SGI have to worry about.

Check your fact you do not have any idea

 

[TheFrog]

Cap is going to $10m

Are you quite sure? A rise of 43% in one hit is some rise. Considering that the NRL is apparently having to borrow $100m+ just to keep the game afloat, you can see why they are reticent.

If normal workers are struggling to get a 2% rise, in fact some are getting less pay with penalty rates being cut, I'm not so sure how NRL players are able to demand rises that require the salary cap to rise by this much.

 

[Old Timer]

Everybody please stop speculating about who the club can or can't afford due to salary cap increases. It doesn't work like that. It is calculated as a % of the salary cap. So if the salary cap goes up 10%, every players salary goes up by 10%. The only tricky part is TPAs but in relation or compared to professionally run clubs, TPAs isn't something SGI have to worry about.

Absolute crap that every player goes up 10% you have no idea.
If the total pool per club goes up 10% how they distribute amongst the players is entirely up to the club.
No automatic increases for anyone that is why players have managers and individual contracts
According to your theory everyone is on a designated amount and is somehow linked to a CPI adjustment which in this case is 10%, just absurd.

 

[possm]

I have always believed that player salaries should be in the public domain, including TPA's. What we need is transparency and honesty.

Who really knows if SGI have TPA's running? I remember Gasnier had a TPA and I've got a feeling Hunt has a TPA.

Someone should set up a TPA agency and arrange sponsors for our elite players. Take a 10% cut and you're on your way to the big bucks.

 

[Gareth67]

Just getting back to the Tedesco rumour - it has just come out that the Tigers board purposely made up some 1st rate crap over the weekend ( Tedesco rumour ? ? ) to other members of the Club's hierachy to discover just where the many leaks to the media , etc. were coming from , interesting .

It would appear that we , as well as the Bulldogs fans , have been eating the same rotten cheese , that the Tiger's rat has been stuffing itself with .

 

[MilanDragon]

Possm I know where you are coming from about having the public salaries etc, but really for what purpose?

It's not a public listed company nor are the clubs and it's not public service.

If you look at other sports I don't know if they have to make their salaries public, why should the NRL be different.

 

[possm]

Possm I know where you are coming from about having the public salaries etc, but really for what purpose?

It's not a public listed company nor are the clubs and it's not public service.

If you look at other sports I don't know if they have to make their salaries public, why should the NRL be different.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...c/news-story/02576dd1ba327549fe83c70f07c06b98

Parramatta Eels boss Bernie Gurr calls for NRL player salaries to be made public, similar to US sports

WE know Daly Cherry-Evans is on a contract worth $10 million over eight seasons but how does that impact the rest of the Manly squad?
When Anthony Milford signs his new $900,000 a season deal, how can they fit so many internationals under their umbrella?

The public has long accused the Roosters and Broncos of having “no salary cap” but according to one of the game’s deep thinkers, there’s a simple solution.

Parramatta CEO Burnie Gurr - who did not reference any particular club - has called on the NRL to make players’ salaries public.

Gurr, who has been in the Eels job for five months now and is not short of ideas, told On The Couch With Sterlo, he would like to see rugby league follow US sporting codes like the NFL and NBA and list athletes’ pay packets in the public arena.

“I believe players’ salaries should be published,” Gurr declared.

“We’re no different really to a public company. Public companies publish the salaries of their senior executives and board members.

“I think it would add an element of theatre to the game, too.

“Fans can debate — well, you’re paying your right centre X amount of money and he’s no good and I’m paying this guy X amount of money and he’s better, or whatever it is.

“It adds a bit of theatre to it. I don’t see a problem with it.”

Players like Mick Ennis on NRL360 last year have previously shot down the idea and Gurr understands the reluctance.

Still, he’s confident it would be accepted and become common practice.

“Initially, you’ve got to expect that people would want to protect their salary,” Gurr said.

“I don’t have an issue with that position.

“The players would obviously not want to do it but it’s well entrenched in professional sport overseas so I don’t think it has caused the NFL any problems to have their salaries published.”

Publishing the players’ salary isn’t the only change Gurr would like to see the NRL make.

The former Rooster, who played first grade games, said he’d like to see a revamp of the schedule which mirrors an NFL formula where the competition is split into conferences.

Under Gurr’s plan, each team would play twice within their conference before facing the remaining teams only once.

“The big problem is the State of Origin players aren’t available for all their club games,” he said.

“We need to go from 24 games to 22 — 11 home, 11 away. Within those games, I think we should split into two conferences.

“We could play within your conference home and away, that’s 14 (games) and play the other eight teams in the other conference, that’s 22 games. It addresses the workload of the player as well.

“…It would be stand-alone weekends for Origin. At the moment it’s very difficult to get fans to grounds.

“Attendances are a problem in the game. One of the reasons in the middle year is the game goes a little dead at club level because the best players aren’t playing.”

 

[Capital]

No it doesn't.
https://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencecentre/salarycap/tabid/10434/default.aspx

You are a funny guy. You have stated you are ignoring me messages but then keep replying and in this case, seemingly did a (relatively) large amount of research to prove me wrong and then when you couldn't, proceeded to post a link, obviously hoping no one would read it, saying I was wrong.

But in this case the joke is on me. You posted that on purpose hoping I would look through it only to finally realize you are playing a joke on me in order to waste my time. If it was Old Timer.... well there is no way he witty enough to pull that off.

Anyway, as I'm sure you already know but for the benefit of the other "geniuses" who are saying I am wrong but who were obviously smarter than me and didn't waste time reading the information contained in that page, I'm right. BrissyRedV is merely conducting some kind of social experiment. I often do that. Sometimes it's fun except in this case when I am unwittingly one of the participants.

 

[BrissyRedV]

You are a funny guy. You have stated you are ignoring me messages but then keep replying and in this case, seemingly did a (relatively) large amount of research to prove me wrong and then when you couldn't, proceeded to post a link, obviously hoping no one would read it, saying I was wrong.

But in this case the joke is on me. You posted that on purpose hoping I would look through it only to finally realize you are playing a joke on me in order to waste my time. If it was Old Timer.... well there is no way he witty enough to pull that off.

Anyway, as I'm sure you already know but for the benefit of the other "geniuses" who are saying I am wrong but who were obviously smarter than me and didn't waste time reading the information contained in that page, I'm right. BrissyRedV is merely conducting some kind of social experiment. I often do that. Sometimes it's fun except in this case when I am unwittingly one of the participants.

Too long a post to maintain attention again. Your other post was so obviously very wrong within the first sentence, I felt the need to correct your stupidity. Your welcome.

 

[BrissyRedV]

You are a funny guy. You have stated you are ignoring me messages but then keep replying and in this case, seemingly did a (relatively) large amount of research to prove me wrong and then when you couldn't, proceeded to post a link, obviously hoping no one would read it, saying I was wrong.

But in this case the joke is on me. You posted that on purpose hoping I would look through it only to finally realize you are playing a joke on me in order to waste my time. If it was Old Timer.... well there is no way he witty enough to pull that off.

Anyway, as I'm sure you already know but for the benefit of the other "geniuses" who are saying I am wrong but who were obviously smarter than me and didn't waste time reading the information contained in that page, I'm right. BrissyRedV is merely conducting some kind of social experiment. I often do that. Sometimes it's fun except in this case when I am unwittingly one of the participants.

Actually, now that I did read it and attempted to interpret your garbage, you are wrong. And geniused.

 

[Coffs dragon]

Just getting back to the Tedesco rumour - it has just come out that the Tigers board purposely made up some 1st rate crap over the weekend ( Tedesco rumour ? ? ) to other members of the Club's hierachy to discover just where the many leaks to the media , etc. we're coming from , interesting .

It would appear that we , as well as the Bulldogs fans , have been eating the same rotten cheese , that the Tiger's rat has been stuffing itself with .

Hey Gareth it sure sucked in plenty on this 14 page Thread........LOL
Move along........next rumour!!!

 

[MilanDragon]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...c/news-story/02576dd1ba327549fe83c70f07c06b98

Parramatta Eels boss Bernie Gurr calls for NRL player salaries to be made public, similar to US sports

WE know Daly Cherry-Evans is on a contract worth $10 million over eight seasons but how does that impact the rest of the Manly squad?
When Anthony Milford signs his new $900,000 a season deal, how can they fit so many internationals under their umbrella?

The public has long accused the Roosters and Broncos of having “no salary cap” but according to one of the game’s deep thinkers, there’s a simple solution.

Parramatta CEO Burnie Gurr - who did not reference any particular club - has called on the NRL to make players’ salaries public.

Gurr, who has been in the Eels job for five months now and is not short of ideas, told On The Couch With Sterlo, he would like to see rugby league follow US sporting codes like the NFL and NBA and list athletes’ pay packets in the public arena.

“I believe players’ salaries should be published,” Gurr declared.

“We’re no different really to a public company. Public companies publish the salaries of their senior executives and board members.

“I think it would add an element of theatre to the game, too.

“Fans can debate — well, you’re paying your right centre X amount of money and he’s no good and I’m paying this guy X amount of money and he’s better, or whatever it is.

“It adds a bit of theatre to it. I don’t see a problem with it.”

Players like Mick Ennis on NRL360 last year have previously shot down the idea and Gurr understands the reluctance.

Still, he’s confident it would be accepted and become common practice.

“Initially, you’ve got to expect that people would want to protect their salary,” Gurr said.

“I don’t have an issue with that position.

“The players would obviously not want to do it but it’s well entrenched in professional sport overseas so I don’t think it has caused the NFL any problems to have their salaries published.”

Publishing the players’ salary isn’t the only change Gurr would like to see the NRL make.

The former Rooster, who played first grade games, said he’d like to see a revamp of the schedule which mirrors an NFL formula where the competition is split into conferences.

Under Gurr’s plan, each team would play twice within their conference before facing the remaining teams only once.

“The big problem is the State of Origin players aren’t available for all their club games,” he said.

“We need to go from 24 games to 22 — 11 home, 11 away. Within those games, I think we should split into two conferences.

“We could play within your conference home and away, that’s 14 (games) and play the other eight teams in the other conference, that’s 22 games. It addresses the workload of the player as well.

“…It would be stand-alone weekends for Origin. At the moment it’s very difficult to get fans to grounds.

“Attendances are a problem in the game. One of the reasons in the middle year is the game goes a little dead at club level because the best players aren’t playing.”

Thanks possm.

Still don't necessarily agree with it but good to know some other sports do it.

Don't know how I'd feel as a player, but then again might just be part of being a NRL player in the future

 

[Old Timer]

What players earn is there business and not ours.
The NRL set the guidelines and the clubs should all follow those guidelines and be audited. If you fail to comply you should lose your licence (love to see the Bears back)
In respect of TPA's they should all be registered and audited with a limit as to how many TPA's and the value of them that a club can have.
Again if you break the rules as a player you are deregistered as wall as the player manager.
The audit committee has to be professional and tough with no fear or favour.
The notion that we should know what other people earn is ridiculous they are entitled to privacy..

 

[2010]

I hope we might be able to see what the referees, linesperson and the idiots in the bunker get paid. (Linesperson is for those politicaly correct posters to this forum)

 

[Capital]

There has to be something to justify Milne's fall from grace.
Did he do something that Mary didn't like?
Did he say something offensive to Mary?
Or more likely, is his name not on Millward's white board?

possm, I'm a little worried about you "liking" the following post.

No it doesn't.
https://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencecentre/salarycap/tabid/10434/default.aspx

It's not like you. Usually you would read the information, as I did and see there isn't a shed of information that contradicts my basic premise. I think you were just too hopeful about the possibility of Tedesco coming and Duges remaining. I very much doubt it. Other clubs have 2 or more players on big money but I think our entire starting forward pack, other than perhaps McInnes (who is probably still being paid partly by Souffs) is on good money. Recruiting Tedesco and keeping Dugan would mean 3 players on big money along with the entire forward pack on at least relatively good money. No, possm, sorry to say but there is no way the club will recruit Tedesco and keep Dugaes. You are dreaming.

I agree with you something is going on. Who does the club think is going to play fullback if not Duges? By all reports, Dufty doesn't look the goods.

But possm, of course I am right. Even if I didn't know, think about it? Almost every player in the NRL would be coming off contract at the time of a salary cap increase unless their managers were complete morons.

 

[BrissyRedV]

see there isn't a shed of information that contradicts my basic premise.

Nope, you are 100% wrong. What you mean is, is there is not a single skerrick of information contained there that backs your premise. Player contracts are not based on a percentage of the cap unless the player manager has negotiated a deal as such. So, you are wrong like you are on a great many things to do with football.

 

[Capital]

Nope, you are 100% wrong. What you mean is, is there is not a single skerrick of information contained there that backs your premise. Player contracts are not based on a percentage of the cap unless the player manager has negotiated a deal as such. So, you are wrong like you are on a great many things to do with football.

And there you have it...... That is precisely what they do and of course would do unless they were complete morons in which case, they wouldn't be player managers for long.

 

[possm]

possm, I'm a little worried about you "liking" the following post.



It's not like you. Usually you would read the information, as I did and see there isn't a shed of information that contradicts my basic premise. I think you were just too hopeful about the possibility of Tedesco coming and Duges remaining. I very much doubt it. Other clubs have 2 or more players on big money but I think our entire starting forward pack, other than perhaps McInnes (who is probably still being paid partly by Souffs) is on good money. Recruiting Tedesco and keeping Dugan would mean 3 players on big money along with the entire forward pack on at least relatively good money. No, possm, sorry to say but there is no way the club will recruit Tedesco and keep Dugaes. You are dreaming.

I agree with you something is going on. Who does the club think is going to play fullback if not Duges? By all reports, Dufty doesn't look the goods.

But possm, of course I am right. Even if I didn't know, think about it? Almost every player in the NRL would be coming off contract at the time of a salary cap increase unless their managers were complete morons.

Your not the first to say we can't afford Dugan, Tedesco and Hunt. Let's say these three players are signed for 3m and the remaining 22 top 25 players were on an average of 250k. Total cap used would be 8.5m. If the cap for 2018 is 10m to 11m, there is plenty of room to make adjustments and fit all under the cap. If not, lose some deadwood and bringing some more juniors to make it work. Players like Field, Dufty, Leilua, Kerr, Garrick and many others would be below 250k. Just make it work.