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Tedesco rumour

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by jak, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. BennyV

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    All of this is through Mary's choosing.
     
  2. Gareth67

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    I hope this is not some dirty little tatic , that a Warrior supporter has put on the web , to sidetrack not only ourselves , but more importantly the team from today's match .
     
  3. loveoursaints

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    If Tedesco does come as FB, and Dugan stay as a centre, with either Milne or Mann, plus Hunt at half, thats a team. Plus Field at number 6. Seems about right.
     
  4. BennyV

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    What makes you think that Mary would choose Milne or Mann at centre? At this stage, neither look like being at the club next year.
     
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    To have a quality player at the Dragons like Tedesco would be great, but l believe we should retain Dugan as he always plays his guts out. Offer him his $750 000 to $800 000 and the captaincy .It would be a mistake to let him walk.
     
  6. possm

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    Benny
    His statement really had nothing to do with Tedesco coming, Dugan to centre or Mann or Milne at centre.
    His post was all about the last 2 sentences:
    Plus Field at number 6. Seems about right.
    You are correct though in sighting how Mann and Milne are so far on the outer that they will most likely move on which is rather tragic in itself and the tragedy would be compounded by the retention of Lafai over both of them.
    Would love to see a few games with Mann and Milne in the side, it would give the forwards a real charge to see the good work they do, being converted into points by the backs.
     
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  8. loveoursaints

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    You are right Benny V, Mary may not pick milne or mann, depends how we go this year with Lafai and Aitken. What I meant was we do have the troops. Depends now on the selections. We could bring the best centre in the game to the club, but if Mary doesnt choose to like him, he wouldnt get a run either. But the troops are there for the picking.
     
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  10. possm

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    This weekend is Dugan's decision deadline so either he or Widdop are gone for next year and Tedesco is on his way for 2018.
     
  11. getsmarty

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    Wests Tigers to impose deadline on 'big four', as CEO declares 'we won't be held to ransom by anyone'
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    Wests Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe says the club will be imposing a deadline on its "big four" stars to re-sign with the club, declaring "we won't be held to ransom by anyone".

    The Tigers have sacked coach Jason Taylor just three weeks into the season, the latest drama following the Tim Simona scandal and the controversial departure of fan favourite Robbie Farah last year.

    No timeline on Taylor replacement
    The Tigers' big four won't re-sign until they know who the 2018 coach will be, but the board's in no rush to find Jason Taylor's successor.

    Taylor's sacking will have implications on the futures of the club's four best players, the off-contract quartet of Mitchell Moses, James Tedesco, Luke Brooks and Aaron Woods. Those players are likely to wait for the appointment of a new head coach before deciding whether to remain at Concord or continue their careers elsewhere.

    In a wide-ranging interview, Pascoe revealed the formulation of a "plan B" should the quartet depart, the reasons for punting Taylor so early in the season and why the club wouldn't have changed its decision to release Farah from his contract a year early.


    D-DAY LOOMS FOR BIG FOUR
    The Tigers tabled contract extensions for Brooks, Tedesco, Moses and Woods before the start of the season. But uncertainty over Taylor's tenure has been one of the reasons they remain unsigned.

    Taylor has now been sacked and his replacement could be in place within a fortnight, giving all parties clarity on the issue. Yet if the Tigers' young stars continue to deliberate, the club will play hard ball and withdraw the offers while there are alternative options still on the open market.

    "It's always club first," Pascoe said. "We're mindful of the time frame, as any club would be. We have to make sure we come to an agreement with their management at some stage sooner rather than later that we're either all here or not. We haven't discussed a time frame or timeline with their management at this stage. But it's recognised that we will have to put some time frames around it.

    "It's our responsibility to have a plan B, it's as simple as that. And we've got plan Bs in place."

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    "We want to be the best sporting organisation in Australia": Wests Tigers boss Justin Pascoe. Photo: Peter Rae
    Pascoe stressed the preference was to ensure the big four remained Tigers for life.

    "Internally, we don't reference them as the 'big four' – they are four players of a top 25," he said.

    "I couldn't be more complimentary of each of those four players. They are terrific young men, they are highly talented and we value them and would obviously love them to stay at this club. We're doing everything in our power to make sure that happens."

    Pascoe said the new coach would have input on the future of the quartet, should they not re-sign before his arrival.

    "The coach needs to have an involvement in the retention and recruitment of players," he said. "It won't change in this instance either."

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    Big four: Tigers stars James Tedesco, Mitchell Moses, Luke Brooks and Aaron Woods. Photo: Getty Images

    AGENT PROVOCATEUR
    There have been concerns that player manager Isaac Moses wields too much influence at Wests Tigers. Moses manages the four young stars, interim coach Andrew Webster and a prospective head coach in Cowboys assistant Todd Payten. Moses is also close friends with Joe Wehbe, a mentor to the quartet who was sounded out about a permanent position on the Tigers staff.

    Pascoe said no individual would be allowed to have undue influence over the club.

    "I and the board won't allow this club to be held to ransom by anyone," Pascoe said.

    "We are a strong club and our job is to build a winning culture for our supporters and players and to create that environment.

    "We won't be held to ransom by anyone. From our perspective, we are having positive discussions with their management.

    "The appointment of the coach is a decision we made as a club. If the players and management want to wait until a coach is appointed, that's their decision."

    FARAH GONE … AND NOW SO IS TAYLOR
    The Tigers back Taylor's decision to squeeze Farah out of the club … and then sacked Taylor just three games into the new season.

    The Tigers – who are still paying $750,000 of Farah's wage to play at South Sydney – are now on the lookout for a new coach, with Ivan Cleary the favourite to take over. Pascoe defended the timing of Taylor's sacking.

    "Firstly, it's not that we made a decision on three games – it's two-and-a-half years into a three-year contract," Pascoe said.

    "This club has always been about making hard decisions to really ensure we have an environment where our supporters look forward to us playing finals football.

    "The timing is never going to be perfect in these decision-making processes, but we wanted to give Jason full support over the off-season heading into this season. This season, as he was always aware, was performance based. We as an organisation believed there hadn't been improvement from last year.


    Still on the payroll: Robbie Farah is still being paid by the Tigers after they let him go. Photo: Getty Images

    "We will not let another season slide away or drift away again. The fact is, we have lost four of our last six games by over 30 points, so improvement was needed. We believed we weren't seeing that so we made a decision. It was a hard decision that will put this club into a better chance of playing finals football."

    Asked if, in hindsight, Farah should have been retained, Pascoe said: "No. The Robbie Farah one and Jason Taylor one are totally separate issues.

    "The decision to move Robbie on was a decision made last year, it's a list management decision. The decision to move Jason Taylor on was a performance decision based on where the team is."

    BEST SPORTING ORGANISATION IN AUSTRALIA
    The Tigers have made the finals just three times in 16 years, have churned through their third coach in five years and are still reeling from the Farah and Simona scandals. However, Pascoe is bullish about the club's aim of becoming the No.1 sporting franchise in Australian sport.

    "Our intention is to play finals football this year, that's why we continue to make the hard decisions," he said. "Our intention is to play finals football every single year. This is a really unified board and we have a clear vision around making sure this becomes the best sporting organisation in Australia.

    "We're not going to deviate from that vision. We've improved commercially over the past two years, we have record membership levels and our apparel value is the highest it's ever been.

    "We continue to enrich the lives of many with the community work we do. We're not shying away from the fact we want to be the best sporting organisation in Australia."

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    Deregistered: Tim Simona was banned after betting against his own team.

    NO BASKET CASE
    The Tigers board, chair Marina Go and Pascoe himself have come under fire for Taylor's sacking and their handling of player contract negotiations.

    "People who aren't within the organisation will have opinions on the decisions we're making," Pascoe said.

    "We as an organisation are very confident we're making the right decisions. As a board, I can tell you in working closely with them, that it is operating in unity and only have one thing in mind and that's the best interests of the Wests Tigers.

    "You need a level of resilience in this job and we are very comfortable that what we're doing internally is the right thing. We're not going to deviate from that vision."


    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...held-to-ransom-by-anyone-20170325-gv6cp6.html
     
  12. Life's Good

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    Big 4 - Loch Ness monster, Big Foot, Bermuda Triangle & Roswell = Myth as in the Tigers Big 4. Big 1 only - Teddy.
     
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  13. mickeylane

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    There hasn't been a whisper any where about Tedesco to Dragons - usually a media person or agent would leak a tip off but there's nothing ! If this comes off Doust would need to be called 007....
     
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  14. dragondad

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    Mole and Buzz doubt the rumour. Mole is usually spot on. I'm guessing that whoever started the rumour is chuckling away.
     
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  15. OzDragon

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    This one has to be true. All the fake ones state a press conference on Friday. This one says Monday.

    Therefore, undoubtedly true.
     
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    I agree mate. Out of those 4, Teddy is the only one worth considering. Moses possibly if he's having a good day. Woods is a myth, would not replace any one of our prop rotation for him.

    And Brooks has just not developed one bit in his first 3 years of FG. Being in that basket case of a club has not helped, but its a cautionary tale of bringing in a young half when he's not ready. Having one of the worst packs in the comp probably hasn't helped either.
     
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  17. Smack

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    hope you teddy fans are watching him get exposed today against the storm lol
     
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  18. BrissyRedV

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    Harsh marker hey? He plays behind a shite Tigers pack so he is exposed all the time and even still, he has still managed over 150m gained, a double handful of tackle breaks and a line break. Are you so harsh on Dugan?
     
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  19. Smack

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    Defending his half the game, being a flash in the pan in attack doesn't warrant the status bestowed upon him by fans.

    His positioning off the ball was piss poor, he missed crucial tackles. Not the teams fault, it's his.
     
  20. thebigredv

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    As much as I am excited by Tedesco I would have to agree. No exaggeration, Dugan has probably saved us as many tries as Tedesco has scored lately.
     

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