The "3P Get Together" Thread

[Stagger eel]

Pete, first of all thanks for the e-mail I really got a great laugh out it.

secondly, you've completely missed the point at what all this is about and appears despite your denial you're finding it difficult even after 10 days, to accept the umpires decision.

now, this isn't about how well our juniors a run as an entity because everyone is fully aware of the great work that Kevin Wise, Terry Rose, Ben rosgers, Lisa Henshaw and the rest of them do for our juniors and they're the real unsung heros in all this and deserve every accolade they get, but are definitely not the reason why the 3P had decided to challenge and succesfully win a majority of seats on the board of the PDRLC.

Pete, you've probably missed the amount of threads and posts in the past 12 to 18 months that clearly outlined why we needed a change at board level at both the PDRLC and the LC. For so long we as fans have been completely deprived of having a say at how our club should be run and at the same time we've been completely mythed at the sort of decisions that were made at NRL level which we couldn't question because we had absolutely no avenue to do so.

We also had a some hard working and dedicated people here that compiled a report which clearly outlined that we, as fans, have completely neglected in the community and fans relations side of things and that report was complied and sent to the club last year only for them to respond by having one our poorest seasons in the area fan relations in many a year.

I, personaly have questioned the club on many appointments and decisions made at the club and ask the following questions why...

1) was Mick Hagan the only candidate for the head coaching role.

2) why wasn't former welfare officer John Hutchison replaced with someone with a more specialised backround, especially when we had several off field incident (2 seperate incidents in one night) that involved our players.

3) what was Greg Mitchells role at the club, apparently he was general manager of football operations, but i'm still trying to get that confirmed.

4) how did a bloke like Andrew Hill get from being NYC football manager to general manager of football ops in the space of a year?

5) why did we lose many great young coach's (Grant Jones, Joe Grima and Craig Cullnane) to rival clubs in the space of a few months? (you can forget about keeping the likes of Kelly, Auremi and Mitchell with these guys at other clubs)

6) how do we justify the current squad we have when we lost several players including 2 our youngest stars in years to the one club and signed 3 to 4 reserve graders?? is the squad being balanced properly by the former football manager and head coach??

7) how does a bloke like Phil Moss who failed in his application to be appointed football manager ahead Andrew Hill due to lack of experiance now good and compitent enough to be appointed?

8) is Steve Edge doing enough to gain more sponsorship at the club?

9) and finally why isn't the Football club membership NOT promoted at the club?

let's get 1 thing straight.

the current leagues club board have failed to convince me the reasons why the NRL team should be kept under the control of the leagues club banner and we thertefore need it basck where it belongs under the control of the members and board of the PDRLC.

The current LC board also have a short few months to convince me why I shouldn't vote for a rival group to take control of the leagues club and quite frankly I think they'll be pushing sh*t up hill to do so whilst we have a CEO who does nothing but make excuses for the reasons the club had been running at a loss for so long.


hope this helps your pride and passion arguement.

 

[eelz47]

Probably not..and I was so looking forward to joining the clique` too.
Is it change for changes sake? or "Storm the Bastille"......

Name a better run Club than the Parramatta District Rugby League Football Club, given its responsibilites, in 2008!

the bears

 

[eelz47]

Pete, first of all thanks for the e-mail I really got a great laugh out it.

secondly, you've completely missed the point at what all this is about and appears despite your denial you're finding it difficult even after 10 days, to accept the umpires decision.

now, this isn't about how well our juniors a run as an entity because everyone is fully aware of the great work that Kevin Wise, Terry Rose, Ben rosgers, Lisa Henshaw and the rest of them do for our juniors and they're the real unsung heros in all this and deserve every accolade they get, but are definitely not the reason why the 3P had decided to challenge and succesfully win a majority of seats on the board of the PDRLC.

Pete, you've probably missed the amount of threads and posts in the past 12 to 18 months that clearly outlined why we needed a change at board level at both the PDRLC and the LC. For so long we as fans have been completely deprived of having a say at how our club should be run and at the same time we've been completely mythed at the sort of decisions that were made at NRL level which we couldn't question because we had absolutely no avenue to do so.

We also had a some hard working and dedicated people here that compiled a report which clearly outlined that we, as fans, have completely neglected in the community and fans relations side of things and that report was complied and sent to the club last year only for them to respond by having one our poorest seasons in the area fan relations in many a year.

I, personaly have questioned the club on many appointments and decisions made at the club and ask the following questions why...

1) was Mick Hagan the only candidate for the head coaching role.

2) why wasn't former welfare officer John Hutchison replaced with someone with a more specialised backround, especially when we had several off field incident (2 seperate incidents in one night) that involved our players.

3) what was Greg Mitchells role at the club, apparently he was general manager of football operations, but i'm still trying to get that confirmed.

4) how did a bloke like Andrew Hill get from being NYC football manager to general manager of football ops in the space of a year?

5) why did we lose many great young coach's (Grant Jones, Joe Grima and Craig Cullnane) to rival clubs in the space of a few months? (you can forget about keeping the likes of Kelly, Auremi and Mitchell with these guys at other clubs)

6) how do we justify the current squad we have when we lost several players including 2 our youngest stars in years to the one club and signed 3 to 4 reserve graders?? is the squad being balanced properly by the former football manager and head coach??

7) how does a bloke like Phil Moss who failed in his application to be appointed football manager ahead Andrew Hill due to lack of experiance now good and compitent enough to be appointed?

8) is Steve Edge doing enough to gain more sponsorship at the club?

9) and finally why isn't the Football club membership NOT promoted at the club?

let's get 1 thing straight.

the current leagues club board have failed to convince me the reasons why the NRL team should be kept under the control of the leagues club banner and we thertefore need it basck where it belongs under the control of the members and board of the PDRLC.

The current LC board also have a short few months to convince me why I shouldn't vote for a rival group to take control of the leagues club and quite frankly I think they'll be pushing sh*t up hill to do so whilst we have a CEO who does nothing but make excuses for the reasons the club had been running at a loss for so long.


hope this helps your pride and passion arguement.

muzza way too long buddy :lol:

 

[parra pete]

Well it certainly more to the point than Suity telling me I'm a FOOL..Thanks for taking the time to compile it. You are closer to the 'action' than me.
Mick Hagan went from hero to zero in the space of two seasons. Almost a hero when he got the team to a close final loss to the Storm, zero when the team failed to make the semis.
I knew Hutchy and I was very disappointed when he left the Club. He's a good bloke and the Club should have tried to keep him on board.
But having run a Pub for over 20 years, I know how much smoking laws affected our business, and we were only a little enterprise compared to PLC.
Do you think the pokie tax, and smoking laws have caused any downturn in profit of the Club. Or is Fitzy making that up?
One good thing about Ray and Bert being elected to the Board - it'll stop them bagging off at the Club in the Press at every opportunity. For them, it'll be a bit like the dog catching the car.. I hope it's not "sh*t, what are we gonna do now".
I respect your opinions Mario.

 

[parra pete]

the bears

As Sitting Bull said....."How"
or as Pauline Hansen asked "Please explain"

 

[eelz47]

As Sitting Bull said....."How"
or as Pauline Hansen asked "Please explain"

"how are you pete? please explain?"

 

[Stagger eel]

Well it certainly more to the point than Suity telling me I'm a FOOL..Thanks for taking the time to compile it. You are closer to the 'action' than me.
Mick Hagan went from hero to zero in the space of two seasons. Almost a hero when he got the team to a close final loss to the Storm, zero when the team failed to make the semis.
I knew Hutchy and I was very disappointed when he left the Club. He's a good bloke and the Club should have tried to keep him on board.
But having run a Pub for over 20 years, I know how much smoking laws affected our business, and we were only a little enterprise compared to PLC.
Do you think the pokie tax, and smoking laws have caused any downturn in profit of the Club. Or is Fitzy making that up?
One good thing about Ray and Bert being elected to the Board - it'll stop them bagging off at the Club in the Press at every opportunity. For them, it'll be a bit like the dog catching the car.. I hope it's not "sh*t, what are we gonna do now".
I respect your opinions Mario.

offcourse he wasn't makeing it up, but I had 2 problems with the way he publicaly went about it, not many people know this but Fitzy used his eels CEO hat over his clubs industry board hat by manipulating the emotions of fans and members in not guarenteeing the clubs survival and at the same time not outlining a survival plan to steer the club in the direction we want to counter act it.

he politicised the arguement and the same time used it by scaring the hell out of eels fans.

 

[parra pete]

offcourse he wasn't makeing it up, but I had 2 problems with the way he publicaly went about it, not many people know this but Fitzy used his eels CEO hat over his clubs industry board hat by manipulating the emotions of fans and members in not guarenteeing the clubs survival and at the same time not outlining a survival plan to steer the club in the direction we want to counter act it.

he politicised the arguement and the same time used it by scaring the hell out of eels fans.

Clever - and pointing out the possible scenarios at the same time.

 

[eelz47]

]Clever - and pointing out the possible scenarios at the same time.

i thought nathan went to the berleigh bears?

 

[parra pete]

"how are you pete? please explain?"

I am so-so at the moment - but football wise on top of the world

I am getting over the death and burial of a former business partner, and a week later celebrating the birth of my third grandchild - second grandson - after my daughter endured 48 hours in labour, before giving birth by caesarian last Sunday morning at 2AM.
Believe it or not, she had to travel to Griffith to have the baby (200km) as the new 10million dollar Hay Hospital has no maternity facilities - or obstetricians. They breed em tough out here....

The forum has kept me occupied over the testing time. It mightn't seem like it at times, but I do enjoy it, and I love my battles with the clique`.
Ob la dee, ob la dah.

 

[Stagger eel]

Clever - and pointing out the possible scenarios at the same time.

I'll tell you something Pete, I actually didn't know that Fitzy was part of ( and correct me if I get the title wrong) the clubs industry council board until he told me and a few other 3 days before the ellection.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Now pete, that is a reply with thought.

There's a first time for everything, I guess...

HJ, I reckon you are spot on - we can't keep them all. Are we being held to ransom by player/managers? Are the 4 you are talking about severely overpaid?

Hindmarsh and Cayless - no. One is the best player we have had since Stu Galbraith and the other, while hot and cold, is a great leader who recently proved his worth at the WC.

Inu and Hayne - yes. I've said it a thousand times and been shouted down a thousand times by the groupies - Hayne is an overpaid hack who held us to ransom while puffing out his chest and strutting around like a superstar. Inu, I think, can offer a helluva lot but needs to find his feet without Tahu feeding him.

If people wanna know why we're losing the Williams boys, look no further than the likes of Hayne. And don't give me any sh*t about it being the fault of inexperienced Club employees who negotiated the deal - if Hayne had have walked then 99% of fans (including the cheersquad here) would have stormed the LC and demanded blood.

Melbourne have had Smith/Folau/Slater/Cronk/Inglis, some of the highest profile players in the game, yet they can still assemble a massively strong squad under the salary cap. Same goes for the Broncos and Manly.

I'm gonna disagree a little here. Folau is gone and Cronk wouldn't be on a major deal, leaving Smith/Slater/Inglis to compare to our Hindy/Caylo/Inu/Hayne.

The difference? The rest of the Melbourne players are heartless robots. Little actual talent, but relentless in their ability to follow orders and endure pain. The fact that such a machine exists is due to the staff at the Club (which we obviously lacked this year with Hagan not having his heart in it). The fact that such a machine is successful is unfortunately due to the way the game has tended to work over the last few years.

With two referees and a closer focus on disengaging the ruck area, I actually think Melbourne will be dropping a peg or two over the coming years. But that's a different story...

(NOTE: Yes, I know that I used two conjoinders to begin sentences. Suck it up and deal with it)

1) was Mick Hagan the only candidate for the head coaching role.

Sometimes yuou headhunt a specific target. We did it with Gibson, didn't we? I think the Club was looking specifically for a relaxed approach to counter the decade of Smith and they knew Hagan fit the bill.

2) why wasn't former welfare officer John Hutchison replaced with someone with a more specialised backround, especially when we had several off field incident (2 seperate incidents in one night) that involved our players.

3) what was Greg Mitchells role at the club, apparently he was general manager of football operations, but i'm still trying to get that confirmed.

4) how did a bloke like Andrew Hill get from being NYC football manager to general manager of football ops in the space of a year?

5) why did we lose many great young coach's (Grant Jones, Joe Grima and Craig Cullnane) to rival clubs in the space of a few months? (you can forget about keeping the likes of Kelly, Auremi and Mitchell with these guys at other clubs)

Sometimes when you employ a Head Coach he gets his way with the appointments lower down the ladder. Just a guess, is all...

Budget constraints might also have had an impact on 2) and 4)

6) how do we justify the current squad we have when we lost several players including 2 our youngest stars in years to the one club and signed 3 to 4 reserve graders?? is the squad being balanced properly by the former football manager and head coach??

No. Read the Hayne/Inu comments above.

7) how does a bloke like Phil Moss who failed in his application to be appointed football manager ahead Andrew Hill due to lack of experiance now good and compitent enough to be appointed?

Once again, budget constraints that are holding back our financial ability to employ a fully qualified person?

Also, grammar and spelling need some work.

8) is Steve Edge doing enough to gain more sponsorship at the club?

I've heard from sources outside the Club that some sponsors find it hard to deal with Fitzy...

9) and finally why isn't the Football club membership NOT promoted at the club?

The more people that are members, the harder they are to "juggle". The increase in difficulty in relation to this "juggling" would be greater than the small financial reward you might get from getting a few thousand more people to pay $20 a year...

let's get 1 thing straight.

the current leagues club board have failed to convince me the reasons why the NRL team should be kept under the control of the leagues club banner and we thertefore need it basck where it belongs under the control of the members and board of the PDRLC.

On this I disagree. The FC cannot guarantee player payments. This much is absolutely 100% correct. The LC can, so why shouldn't they have the players under their wing?

I've heard it said (I do believe by 3P members on this very forum) that this problem can be solved because once the NRL side is back with the FC they will have a greater ability to acquire the assets and liquidity to cover the necessary payments.

I am sorry, but the only way that this could come to fruition is if the NRL team itself was used as leverage or security to obtain loans that would go towards buying assets and creating liquidity. There is no other way in which having the NRL team under the FC would give the FC a stronger position to acquire said assets and liquidity. Only by using the NRL team as collateral can the FC be in any position to make such moves.

I'll be f**king dead in my cold, cold grave before I let my NRL team be put into such a dangerous position. Loan defaults would equal losing the Eels to whoever provided the loans.

Is this what everyone wants to risk?

Can anyone say that what I have just said is wrong and that there are other options?

Is there any other way for the FC to provide the financial stability, especially in these times?

The current LC board also have a short few months to convince me why I shouldn't vote for a rival group to take control of the leagues club and quite frankly I think they'll be pushing sh*t up hill to do so whilst we have a CEO who does nothing but make excuses for the reasons the club had been running at a loss for so long.

Once again I will disagree somewhat.

Much has been made of the $20mil loss in relation to Parra Power and the Two Blues. Sure, $20mil is a sh*tLOAD of money but I'm not being too harsh on Fitzy over it.

You see, at both the times when investments in these Clubs were made, there was a big hoopla over how both Soccer and Club Rugby were going to enter a renaissance period. There was a lot of talk and a lot of press regarding how the future of these two codes was going to change in Australia.

Sure, the attempt before the A-League failed and the revamped Club Rugby competition ended up sh*t, but you don't know what's gonna happen beforehand and you don't wanna miss out, do you?

Yes, Fitzy made mistakes and cost us a lot of money. However, if all the hoopla had have been correct then Parra Leagues would now be sitting on 3 high profile sporting clubs from 3 different codes and we would be the envy of sporting institutions across the nation.

It failed to materialised, Fitzy was shown to have made mistakes and we lost a bucketload of cash. Sometimes the dice roll your way and sometimes they don't. One thing is for sure - Fitzy didn't throw the money down the drain. He took a risk that could have paid off big time and ended up being kicked in the arse.

Baker's Mews, however, is a little different...

Do you think the pokie tax, and smoking laws have caused any downturn in profit of the Club. Or is Fitzy making that up?

I don't think he is making it up at all. However, it is one thing to acknowledge that your revenue stream has been hit, it is another to work hard to find new revenue streams instead of simply complaining about the ones you have lost that aren't coming back...

 

[fish eel]

On this I disagree. The FC cannot guarantee player payments. This much is absolutely 100% correct. The LC can, so why shouldn't they have the players under their wing?

I've heard it said (I do believe by 3P members on this very forum) that this problem can be solved because once the NRL side is back with the FC they will have a greater ability to acquire the assets and liquidity to cover the necessary payments.

I am sorry, but the only way that this could come to fruition is if the NRL team itself was used as leverage or security to obtain loans that would go towards buying assets and creating liquidity. There is no other way in which having the NRL team under the FC would give the FC a stronger position to acquire said assets and liquidity. Only by using the NRL team as collateral can the FC be in any position to make such moves.

I'll be f**king dead in my cold, cold grave before I let my NRL team be put into such a dangerous position. Loan defaults would equal losing the Eels to whoever provided the loans.

Is this what everyone wants to risk?

Out of curiosity, are you a leagues club member?

One question I've asked a few times, which nobody has answered, is how will the long term future of a stand alone Parramatta Eels be enhanced by having it back with the football club?

You make good points, and perhaps my question will get an answer by those who call for that change to be made.

Much has been made of the $20mil loss in relation to Parra Power and the Two Blues. Sure, $20mil is a sh*tLOAD of money but I'm not being too harsh on Fitzy over it.

You see, at both the times when investments in these Clubs were made, there was a big hoopla over how both Soccer and Club Rugby were going to enter a renaissance period. There was a lot of talk and a lot of press regarding how the future of these two codes was going to change in Australia.

Sure, the attempt before the A-League failed and the revamped Club Rugby competition ended up sh*t, but you don't know what's gonna happen beforehand and you don't wanna miss out, do you?

Yes, Fitzy made mistakes and cost us a lot of money. However, if all the hoopla had have been correct then Parra Leagues would now be sitting on 3 high profile sporting clubs from 3 different codes and we would be the envy of sporting institutions across the nation.

Cant talk much about the rugby, but the foray into soccer was diabolical.

They were trying to sustain a professional team in a semi professional league that had NO tv deal, no revenue stream from clubs aside from the 2000 turning up to games.

It was foolhardy. There was no hoopla over the NSL at the time. Clubs were falling over.

It failed to materialised, Fitzy was shown to have made mistakes and we lost a bucketload of cash. Sometimes the dice roll your way and sometimes they don't. One thing is for sure - Fitzy didn't throw the money down the drain. He took a risk that could have paid off big time and ended up being kicked in the arse.

Baker's Mews, however, is a little different...

Baker's Mews?

How much did that cost to get up to scratch, and it is still sitting empty, isnt it?

 

[Stagger eel]

Sometimes yuou headhunt a specific target. We did it with Gibson, didn't we? I think the Club was looking specifically for a relaxed approach to counter the decade of Smith and they knew Hagan fit the bill.

seriously, you're not comparing Gibson to Hagon are you? yes there are coach's you head hunt, but there far and few between and Hages definbitely wasn't one of them.

Sometimes when you employ a Head Coach he gets his way with the appointments lower down the ladder. Just a guess, is all...

and that goes back to who appointed the head coach in the first place.

Budget constraints might also have had an impact on 2) and 4)

then you need to ask yourself how did we get to that position in the first place?

No. Read the Hayne/Inu comments above.

I realise this..but last seasons form questioned their ability to be the marquee players we paid them to be, are you now defending Hayne??

Once again, budget constraints that are holding back our financial ability to employ a fully qualified person?

Also, grammar and spelling need some work..

again, who put us in that position...and stiff sh*t re spelling and grammer, I really couldn't give a rats.

I've heard from sources outside the Club that some sponsors find it hard to deal with Fitzy.....

well, i wasn't going ot go down that path, but seeing you mentioned it...

The more people that are members, the harder they are to "juggle". The increase in difficulty in relation to this "juggling" would be greater than the small financial reward you might get from getting a few thousand more people to pay $20 a year...

rubbish - package the membership so that STH, Sponsors, LC and FC members all get a say....

On this I disagree. The FC cannot guarantee player payments. This much is absolutely 100% correct. The LC can, so why shouldn't they have the players under their wing?

what's the freaking difference if it's all coming from the same well???...the members who follow the side will have a say in hows it's run not the members who are only interested in pokie machines and a Chinese resetraunt.

I've heard it said (I do believe by 3P members on this very forum) that this problem can be solved because once the NRL side is back with the FC they will have a greater ability to acquire the assets and liquidity to cover the necessary payments.

well that's fine, that's your opinion, it's just unfortunate that you weren't there last sunday to voice it..

Once again I will disagree somewhat.

Much has been made of the $20mil loss in relation to Parra Power and the Two Blues. Sure, $20mil is a sh*tLOAD of money but I'm not being too harsh on Fitzy over it.

You see, at both the times when investments in these Clubs were made, there was a big hoopla over how both Soccer and Club Rugby were going to enter a renaissance period. There was a lot of talk and a lot of press regarding how the future of these two codes was going to change in Australia.

Sure, the attempt before the A-League failed and the revamped Club Rugby competition ended up sh*t, but you don't know what's gonna happen beforehand and you don't wanna miss out, do you?

Yes, Fitzy made mistakes and cost us a lot of money. However, if all the hoopla had have been correct then Parra Leagues would now be sitting on 3 high profile sporting clubs from 3 different codes and we would be the envy of sporting institutions across the nation.

It failed to materialised, Fitzy was shown to have made mistakes and we lost a bucketload of cash. Sometimes the dice roll your way and sometimes they don't. One thing is for sure - Fitzy didn't throw the money down the drain. He took a risk that could have paid off big time and ended up being kicked in the arse.

I find it strange that you're almost sympathising with Fitzy's plight of rolling the dice and failing. in the last 10 years where he's lost millions for the club he was not once and still not accountable for it, he'll still turn up to work tomorrow while many others wouldn't have that luxery. :?

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Out of curiosity, are you a leagues club member?

Yes.

One question I've asked a few times, which nobody has answered, is how will the long term future of a stand alone Parramatta Eels be enhanced by having it back with the football club?

You make good points, and perhaps my question will get an answer by those who call for that change to be made.

I honestly don't see how there can be an answer apart from the one I have provided.

Cant talk much about the rugby, but the foray into soccer was diabolical.

They were trying to sustain a professional team in a semi professional league that had NO tv deal, no revenue stream from clubs aside from the 2000 turning up to games.

It was foolhardy. There was no hoopla over the NSL at the time. Clubs were falling over.

There's been hoopla plenty of times regarding soccer prior to the A-League. Fitzy just decided to try and get in. He failed. I'm not excusing what happened, just saying that I can sorta see where he was coming from, is all...

Baker's Mews?

How much did that cost to get up to scratch, and it is still sitting empty, isnt it?

Which is exactly my point.

seriously, you're not comparing Gibson to Hagon are you? yes there are coach's you head hunt, but there far and few between and Hages definbitely wasn't one of them.

Of course he was. The target was a relaxed, laid back Coach with some experience to counter the decade of Smith.

Were there any other options apart from Hagan (two a's, Wario)?

and that goes back to who appointed the head coach in the first place.

The same people you were applauding after 2007.

again, who put us in that position...and stiff sh*t re spelling and grammer, I really couldn't give a rats.

You didn't capitalise to begin your first sentence, failed to use a colon after re, spelled grammar incorrectly and didn't use an apostrophe for rat's.

rubbish - package the membership so that STH, Sponsors, LC and FC members all get a say....

Um, that's exactly my point...Minimise the number of people who have a say and it is easier to control the group and, in this case, retain power.

Learn to read.

what's the freaking difference if it's all coming from the same well???...the members who follow the side will have a say in hows it's run not the members who are only interested in pokie machines and a Chinese resetraunt.

Those members who are only interested in pokie machines and a Chinese restaurant (notice the correct spelling?), you say? Oh, you mean the ones who actually generate the money to pay for the NRL Club?

They shouldn't get a say?

well that's fine, that's your opinion, it's just unfortunate that you weren't there last sunday to voice it..

Yeah, true. Sorry that I'm not part of your little clique who attended the love-in. I was too busy helping a mate move into the house he just purchased. Damn, I totally have the wrong priorities!

I find it strange that you're almost sympathising with Fitzy's plight of rolling the dice and failing. in the last 10 years where he's lost millions for the club he was not once and still not accountable for it, he'll still turn up to work tomorrow while many others wouldn't have that luxery. :?

He's held accountable at every LC election. He will be again next year. Those people whose money he has been losing (you know, the pokie machine, Chinese restaurant group?) will have the chance to vote him out if they want, just as they have in the past.

As with the FC elections, current LC board members will be held accountable by the people and the people will choose their future - just as they should.

Also, it's luxury.

I realise this..but last seasons form questioned their ability to be the marquee players we paid them to be, are you now defending Hayne??

Bloody hell, of course not. I was doing the exact opposite. Learn to read.

 

[youngy]

col

i am starting to warm to the idea of a new board. this type of forum you are willing to have with the fans/supporters is a huge step for the club.

well done and i hope it goes ahead.

 

[Y2Eel]

offcourse he wasn't makeing it up, but I had 2 problems with the way he publicaly went about it, not many people know this but Fitzy used his eels CEO hat over his clubs industry board hat by manipulating the emotions of fans and members in not guarenteeing the clubs survival and at the same time not outlining a survival plan to steer the club in the direction we want to counter act it.

he politicised the arguement and the same time used it by scaring the hell out of eels fans.

Sounds Like Rusty has Followed Fitzy's lead and done the same thing to the Bunny Fans...

 

[Stagger eel]

Of course he was. The target was a relaxed, laid back Coach with some experience to counter the decade of Smith.

Were there any other options apart from Hagan (two a's, Wario)?.

well from memory he could of atleast had the decency to give Taylor an interview.

The same people you were applauding after 2007.

exactly, so can you please explain what happened 12 months later??

Those members who are only interested in pokie machines and a Chinese restaurant (notice the correct spelling?), you say? Oh, you mean the ones who actually generate the money to pay for the NRL Club?

They shouldn't get a say?

Absolutely - ever heard of club facilities?

Yeah, true. Sorry that I'm not part of your little clique who attended the love-in. I was too busy helping a mate move into the house he just purchased. Damn, I totally have the wrong priorities!

oh but you are, according to Josh Massoud your the poor little creature who wasn't able to have a say because you weren't a football club member despite the fact that you travelled at away games including interstate to watch them play..:lol: (what a load of f**king shyte)

He's held accountable at every LC election. He will be again next year. Those people whose money he has been losing (the pokie machine, Chinese restaurant group) will have the chance to vote him out if they want, just as they have in the past.

As with the FC elections, current members will be held accountable by the people and the people will choose their future - just as they should.

LC ellections??? or you mean the one which 1400 odd out of 40000 members actually voted because they knew it was on??

we must be due for a feel good fan story about a bloke who turns up in a dressing gown minutes before first grade to support his club, go on give your mate Josh a call..:lol:

 

[eelz47]

So anyone else coming to the get together(s)?

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

well from memory he could of atleast had the decency to give Taylor an interview.

True, except he was from the Smith mould. Sure, we're going back there with Anderson now, but that was only after the Relaxed Coach attempt failed.

exactly, so can you please explain what happened 12 months later??

Taking a guess? It takes a certain amount of time for a previous Coach's system to wear off and the new Coach's system to wear in. The time for the Smith era to wear off and the Hagan era to wear in might have been that 12 months.

Absolutely - ever heard of club facilities?

The non-Eels LC members constitute 3/4 of the LC population. They should therefore get 3/4 of the say in regards to what happens with the Eels and the money they get from the LC. The math is quite simple.

oh but you are, according to Josh Massoud your the poor little creature who wasn't able to have a say because you weren't a football club member despite the fact that you travelled at away games including interstate to watch them play..:lol: (what a load of f**king shyte)

a) I do travel interstate to watch them play. Have been doing so longer than you've been showing your face.

b) Josh Massoud doesn't always get things right, does he?

c) The correct abbreviation of you are is you're and not your.

d) Don't get too cut, Wario. Maybe some day an article will be written about little ol' you.

LC ellections??? or you mean the one which 1400 odd out of 40000 members actually voted because they knew it was on??

Everyone gets notice that it is on, I do believe...

we must be due for a feel good fan story about a bloke who turns up in a dressing gown minutes before first grade to support his club, go on give your mate Josh a call..:lol:

a) I never speak to Josh. He never speaks to me.

b) Don't get too cut, mate. Maybe one day someone will do a story about the Eels fan who got to be in the room with George Bush at APEC. :crazy:Actually, probably not. Like I said, don't get too cut, mate.

If you don't mind me saying, though (considering you brought it up), it's pretty funny how these things constantly come up. You have no valid points, Wario, and nothing but you're little clique in-crowd wankfest that constitutes the entirity of your life. When someone puts a valid argument up and you think your status as "Mr. In" is being questioned, you bring up personal points that have nothing to do with the situation at hand. If you're not doing that then you're using those little winks, the sole purpose of which is to try to impress everybody with some belief that you're inside whereas others are not. You know, these ones ;-)

I'm sorry to be rude (but you started with the personal crap), but you seriously need to wake up to yourself, Wario.

Speaking of which, how's Henry Perenara going? You know, your best friend?

(And just to make sure you know, I've had my say on the subject now so will not derail this thread by getting into an argument regarding it)

(NOTE: I know I just used a conjoinder to begin my previous sentence. Suck it up and deal with it)