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The Bunker

El Diablo

Post Whore
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there is no video in my quote

would you like a screen capture?

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bileduct

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What's this then.

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bileduct

Coach
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If there's one thing you've proven, it's that you're most definitely suffering from a mental deficiency.
 

Parra

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You want to review the bunker decision?

"We have a decision, going to the board"

Captain: yeah I'd like to challenge that to the Second Bunker
The Second Bunker doesn't look at game footage, it just reviews the Video Ref's brain activity at the time of pushing the button and if there is none then the decision is remitted to the on-field ref

Obviously a third bunker is required
 

Valheru

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To run the offside player onside, he would need to get in front of the offside player before the offside player gets involved or makes himself available to be involved. Mitchell only gets in front of Tupou after catching the pass, meaning he didn't run him onside.

Incorrect. They are both on the 10m at the exact same time and mitchell is certainly in front of tupou a split second after that prior to the pass being thrown.
 

unforgiven

Bench
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And yet the video I just showed you shows that the technology was developed specifically for shit like this and was then adapted for advertising.

Ok guy, it's completely different.

Not only that but an Australian and former ch9 employee was involved in its introduction almost 20 years ago in the NFL.
 

unforgiven

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Might not be a simple as some people think though.

While the line looks simple on TV, the technology behind it is very complex. Sensors were placed on the three main game cameras (at midfield and the two 20 yard lines), capturing the pan, tilt and zoom movements of those cameras 30 times a second. A three-dimensional, virtual model of each field had to be constructed, with the exact measurements of the crown of the field (the center of the field is always higher, for drainage, than the sides and ends, but the precise levels vary in each venue). An exhaustive color palette had to be produced on the fly as the game progressed, so that the green pixels of grass the yellow line replaced would be exactly the "right greens" even as shadows crossed the field and changed the grass hues -- an essential feature to assure replacing only the green blades of grass and not the green threads of a Packers or Eagles jersey.

The operation of the system was also extremely complex and had to integrate in a sophisticated and complete way with the TV broadcast. We were fortunate to have, in Jerry Gepner, the best person in the industry at pulling off this detailed integration and coordination, but it was an all or nothing proposition. Either the line would appear to stick like paint to the grass, and remain in the right spot throughout the play, or it would not go to air. Being a yard off, or having it appear on a player's jersey, or shudder slightly -- these were not options.
 

bileduct

Coach
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The point about simplicity was that at the end of the day it's still just a chroma key overlay so getting a line to appear across the screen no different than an ad.

A lot of the problems mentioned there have already been resolved given how well the existing system is able to incorporate multicolour advertising into the current product. You occasionally see some colour bleed or distortion but it's barely noticeable.

Modelling the field would obviously be required to produce the overlay, but as you stated, this technology was introduced in the NFL almost 20 years ago.

While the bunker is an improvement, it would be nice to give the monkey making the decision some better tools instead of just giving the monkey control of the existing ones for expediency. An offside line seems like a bit of a no brainer considering that the video referee is asked to make decisions about offside all the time from imperfect angles. We had a situation last night where the touch judge was in a position behind the play where he surely could only have made a guess, and the video ref with a better look and the benefit of replay still couldn't make a call. There's gotta be a better option than that.

Instead we have Foxtel spending money on developing shit like this --> http://wearableexperiments.com/alert-shirt/
 

Iafeta

Referee
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Second pathetic call to go against the Warriors today. Called for obstruction, Johnson received the ball half a metre inside Mannering's shoulder, 10 metres from the defensive line. Mannering never engaged in the line, he stopped pretty much dead in his run. It went upstairs as a try, and was overturned. No common sense from these mongs. Round 1 Tedesco scores off a 42 metre knock on from Mitchell Moses which is ruled knock back.
 

Rod

Bench
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Second pathetic call to go against the Warriors today. Called for obstruction, Johnson received the ball half a metre inside Mannering's shoulder, 10 metres from the defensive line. Mannering never engaged in the line, he stopped pretty much dead in his run. It went upstairs as a try, and was overturned. No common sense from these mongs. Round 1 Tedesco scores off a 42 metre knock on from Mitchell Moses which is ruled knock back.

They have been ruling it this way all year and it has finally brought some consistency and clarity to the obstruction rule.

Forget whether anyone was 'obstructed'. If you don't want to be called for it don't run behind a decoy runner.
 

Iafeta

Referee
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So what about all the times over the weekend in broken field play when players jinked in and across the line, running behind players? It's obstruction if you are obstructed. It's really simple. No player was impeded so the play had no impact on the fact the Knights defence sucked. Most kicks now must be ruled obstruction. Guys are going downtown and I doubt very much that there aren't at least 5 a game where technically he receives the ball inside of the downtown player.
 
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