we had that and there were too many complaints so that's why it's the way it is now
How are these even remotely the same concept?
Yeah having video refs callng on forward passes was a shambles, and would be a disaster again. It's the whole floating forward thing after leaving the hands backwards. There are any number where it is simply impossible to tell.
Why should a defender have to account for a player running behind an offside player?
A decoy runner is offside and has absolutely no right to have any impact on the play, including making a defender make the wrong decision. These block plays are a plight on the game and i hope these rulings lead to teams trying other attacking plays.
And there are countless complaints now so damned if you do damned if you don't.
Big decisions shouldn't be made based on fans complaining, because it always goes both ways and there's a reason your average joe isn't in charge of anything important. It may very well be that this is the case and the games leaders believe this is the best way, so be it.
All three are based around judging whether something or someone is behind/backwards based on an often awkward camera angle.
We judge on all kinds of things that are impossible to tell every week.
what on earth are you on about? the ball was passed 10 metres outside him, no-one ran behind him
There are many other factors in a forward pass, a forward pass is not about the ball travelling forward. Many legit passes travel forward which is where the difficulty arises.
Everyone is aware of this. Not hard for a video ref to account for this when making their decision.
Ummmm yes it is. Even with a physics degree it would be practically impossible. You may be aware of this but you have no understanding of what is involved. There are just too many varying factors.
As you are aware of this could you please enlighten me on how a video ref would account for this when making their decision?
The same way the on-field ref does you dope.
Thrown backwards but floats forward due to momentum = play on. Thrown out of the hands forward = forward pass.
How exactly are forward passes not the same as knock ons or offsides in relation to camera angles and the ability for a video ref to rule on them?
Camera angles are no different to the angle the refs have. If video refs cant rule on passes due to angles being an issue then refs cant either. If anything the video ref is more capable of making a call because he has several angles to look at. The ref has one.
Having said all that, the game would be better off without any of this shit. There should be one ref and no video ref and just get on with it like in virtually every competition on the planet outside the nrl.
They rule on them in Union. Just saying.
Maximus, did you think it was a no try?
I'd much rather use common sense within the rules than black and white/zero tolerance kind of rulings.
By 'within the rules' I mean I am ok with phrases in the rulebook which allow for grey areas, eg. "If the decoy runner is deemed by the referee to have no effect on the play...."
what on earth are you on about? the ball was passed 10 metres outside him, no-one ran behind him
A video is still better at seeing the direction the ball travels out of the hand than a ref who is not in line and touchies who might as well not be there.at all. The proof is in how many they get wrong now.Because in a knock on you are looking to determine if a ball travels forward has nothing to do with the direction of the hsnds or if it floats forward. Offsides has nothing to do with the movement of a ball and is just down to if a player is in front of yhe kicker. The angles are different because the focus in forward passes os the direction the ball is thrown not where it ends up.
Also there are 2 bloody touch judges whos main job is to be inline with the play and call on forward passes. They have the best angle to make the call.