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The Case for Adelaide.....

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Then you'll know that when on FTA in Melb Storm rate 37k avg which is higher than GWS and on par with Swans. All for a fraction of the cost. Result!
 
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Then you'll know that when on FTA in Melb Storm rate 37k avg which is higher than GWS and on par with Swans. All for a fraction of the cost. Result!
For this year it was. The lock down in Melbourne would have played a role. Let's see if it stays that way when people can go to The G again to watch the fumbleball. AwFuL's Victorian clubs were playing in Queensland all throughout the week, so it's very likely many of their games didn't clash with the Storm.
 

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Brisbane2 offer nothing to Fox, they will be on FTA every week so offer nothing in subscriptions. The deal is done for the next 7 years and I very much doubt it has any extra $'s for expansion in it.
Will Ch9 pay $15million a year more for an extra 50k odd viewers every round (minus the byes)?
The only real value in expansion is having a ninth game to sell. Its a furphy to believe otherwise. One of the reasons I think it will be a much longer time before we see Brisabne2 than Vlandys is leading us to believe.

It's not *just* that the ninth game adds value to a TV deal, there's also the fact that having a weekly bye is a pain in the butt.

The sponsors have weekends without visibility.
The NRL doesn't get maximum utility from it's clubs.
The fans don't get to see their team in action every week.
The players may get a reprieve from the action 2 or 3 times in a season - which may help with niggling injuries.. but may lose momentum if the team's in good form.

It's just not sustainable.

If Brisbane2 comes in, I give it 5 years MAX before we get back to an even number of clubs.

If V'Landys & the NRL are sincere in their vow to protect the existing clubs, that can only mean an 18th club. The only matter up for debate is who.
 

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The Burgess story had legs and made them money. That's why they ran it.

And it gave the code a black eye.Double page in the Australian,a national paper.That news for you.Pint media is struggling ,so they do anything for a story and if it hits a code on which they have an interest ,tough luck.
 

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Then you'll know that when on FTA in Melb Storm rate 37k avg which is higher than GWS and on par with Swans. All for a fraction of the cost. Result!

The Storm continue to do well on the field, yet they continue to rely heavily on Queenslanders and Kiwis for their player roster.
GWS have been around for a few minutes compared to the Storm, so the comparison is flawed on that score.
The Swans crowds with due respect are double the Storm,so the FTA similarity doesn't help that much, despite all the money teh AFL have put in for promo.
And how much revenue does the secondary channel for the Storm bring in to FTA compared to the main channel?
 

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A Storm game doesn’t have a huge impact on ratings in Sydney but does add 25,000 FTA viewers and 17,000 PTV viewers from Victoria and another 10,000 viewers in Brisbane (4k FTA, 6.5k PTV). It’s likely that this impact is understated, given how rarely the NRL rates at all in Melbourne. While these numbers sound small in the grand scheme, assuming that those figures generally hold across all games, the Storm would go from having the second highest average on PTV to twelfth, and from second to fourth on FTA without their local audience.

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This really puts paid to the idea that teams from Sydney and Brisbane can have any meaningful appeal in the southern states without expansion. To truly engage Perth, Adelaide and other places in any form will require teams in those cities. It is simply not enough for Sydney clubs to move the occasional lack lustre game and hope that simple repetition engages with a wider non-traditional market. If those places are to care even a little bit, they need their own teams.

https://pythagonrl.com/2020/04/06/e...-about-nrl-tv-ratings-but-were-afraid-to-ask/

Regional Victoria ,is a small town,compared to regionals in NSW and Qld,where League support is strong.
The Storm have been around since 1997 ,23 years ,with a few G/F wins so there should be some expat viewers and some newbies from Victoria.

The Storm gets decent ratings on FTA when in G/Fs.The Storm is established and needed due to its profile, but it needs to get off its backside and get more locals in first grade.
You still don't understand the appeal for Sydney and Brisbane teams is due to the fact they are in League heartland, just like Vic /SA and Wa teams grab the majority of Tv ratings(which bring in advertisers and subscribers whereas teh non heartland areas are nowhere near that level.

In fact I agree lacklustre games for any current NRL team on TV is ridiculous, but whether we like it or not
the advertisers in Brisbane are interested in the Broncos because they draw on TV in Brisbane ,although down this year because they played like bush footballers.

No one cared when SL came in,evry club for itself.It's fantasising now expecting expansion other than Brisbane 2 for the short term, because the money cupboard is empty.Expanding to non heartland short terms asking to get burnt.
 

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Smith delivered an outstanding one half of a deal, far far better than any CEO before him has achieved. He wasnt allowed to finish the job. I'll judge him on what he did deliver, not what he may or may not have that we will never know.
Sht Id have loved to see him tell Fox pay or goodbye, Foxsports needs NRL and is no position to walk away. They know it, we know it, Smith knew it. Like Greenberg, when he told Ch9 no to not paying this year and to their request for a massive cut they went on the attack, Vlandys went weak at the knees and CEO sacked. Sound familiar?
Abdo had better hope Ch9 are nice to him when the renegotiations for FTA start and that he doesnt pss them off, at least hes not got News Ltd to have to try and get a deal with,


LOL "outstanding one half" and f*cked the second half.Your theory one half is better than a whole.
Seriously you have noted Smith would have gone ahead with ch9 at the Commissions request, if they were so happy with his result why did he not continue with the Fox deal ,and why did none of the Commission who (you stated gave him the go ahead for 9 deal) not be with him when he announced the result.

Smith admitted he knew little about rugby league and its politics when he first arrived,That stood out like dog's b*alls .Sport is not Merchant Banking, they are poles apart.News and Bourbon Becky took advantage of this.
LOL about your parting shot at Abdo,in fact it was Smith who worked with Abdo who gave him a wrap.

Then fact you continue your personal vendetta against V'Landys is a borefest.You of course would be suggesting Smith would have insisted 9 and Foxtel continue to pay the original contract during COVID.ROFL when AFL took financial hits was did other codes.Talk about living in a Perth bubble.

Foxtel needs both AFL and the NRL ,never suggested otherwise.And the NRL needs the funds from Foxtel the major provider of revenue ATM.It"ain't" a one way street. You give and take in negotiations at that level.You play silly buggers ,sometimes your competitor gets more than he deserves, because you have a ruthless person like Murdoch who has the principles at times, that are bog dirty.

NB you come over here and show em how its' done,I'm sure the constant whining will get us an extra $50m over 5 years.
 

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And it gave the code a black eye.Double page in the Australian,a national paper.That news for you.Pint media is struggling ,so they do anything for a story and if it hits a code on which they have an interest ,tough luck.
True....money rules all for them
 

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Nope, wed have been broke within a year or two regardelss of SL from what I saw of the costs to run the club sadly, like Sharks we had little choice. Sadly killed the game in WA for a very long time, still no where near recovered.

Wildcats are going great guns in WA. Soccer is sht but even as sht as it is Glory still managed to draw more occasionally than some NRL clubs. Not sure what that says about some NRL clubs? Twiggy has enough money he could have set the Force and Union in WA up for ever more in a similar way Politis has for the roosters. Once you get assets behind you and non FC revenue generating you dont need the old fella. Sadly he still might.


If one is to start up a new club with high private ownership, one would look at worst case scenarios regard revenue shortfalls.I'm sure the Penn family know this.
Now it it were the Boss of Fortescue Twiggy,money would be no object.
Perhaps you need more financial backing behind Perth to convince the NRL, but you need better Tv ratings provide better ammunition for your expansion argument.
I'd suggest now, even teh AFL would be very hesitant on expansion with the financial uncertainty and loss of revenue that has hit them.


The fact that accommodation and airfares were at Perth's expense, you stated going to SL was your saviour, but if you were part of a sport with a group of clubs, surely management would realise the implications for the code.More so as other clubs did not switch to SL, and you don't have to be Luigi the Unbelievable to know two RL comps in a country the population of Australia would be a disaster.You could see it from day 1 with the 2 comps.

When the Sharks decided to go to SL,and I was present at the club when Mal,Ribot,etc were there, the reaction of their fans was split down the middle.

You say the game has nowhere near recovered.Likewise I say Rugby league has still not fully recovered,because the $25m we had in the Bank went into the pocket sop players, never to be used for development or expansion.The building block to do so, was kicked over.
Basketball has decent followings infall the cities in this country, back on its feet.It is not real competition to AFL in WA, whereas rugby league is head to head with union AFL over there according to my bro-in-law is huge,it's a far greater road to tread.Just as the Storm have found out and the GWS and Suns.

One off crowds for soccer over there'd their continual poor Tv ratings is hardly comparing teh reality of Nrl clubs n Sydney, which is heartland .
 

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LOL "outstanding one half" and f*cked the second half.Your theory one half is better than a whole.
Seriously you have noted Smith would have gone ahead with ch9 at the Commissions request, if they were so happy with his result why did he not continue with the Fox deal ,and why did none of the Commission who (you stated gave him the go ahead for 9 deal) not be with him when he announced the result.

Smith admitted he knew little about rugby league and its politics when he first arrived,That stood out like dog's b*alls .Sport is not Merchant Banking, they are poles apart.News and Bourbon Becky took advantage of this.
LOL about your parting shot at Abdo,in fact it was Smith who worked with Abdo who gave him a wrap.

Then fact you continue your personal vendetta against V'Landys is a borefest.You of course would be suggesting Smith would have insisted 9 and Foxtel continue to pay the original contract during COVID.ROFL when AFL took financial hits was did other codes.Talk about living in a Perth bubble.

Foxtel needs both AFL and the NRL ,never suggested otherwise.And the NRL needs the funds from Foxtel the major provider of revenue ATM.It"ain't" a one way street. You give and take in negotiations at that level.You play silly buggers ,sometimes your competitor gets more than he deserves, because you have a ruthless person like Murdoch who has the principles at times, that are bog dirty.

NB you come over here and show em how its' done,I'm sure the constant whining will get us an extra $50m over 5 years.

yep he was only given time to negotiate one half of the deal and he delivered a massive fta $ increase, more than the afl for the first time ever. Maybe if he had been given the opportunity to take on news ltd he might have delivered a bigger total deal than afl, maybe not. Simple fact is we will never know.
as for Vlandys who knows what he’s signed us up to, for the first time in 20 years the nrl has refused to announce what the deal is.

ch9 was the main provider of funds to the nrl in the Last deal, not foxtel. Ch9 $185mill a year, foxtel $155mill

it’s nice living in our perth bubble, apparently we’ve got the strongest economy in the world!
 
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yep he was only given time to negotiate one half of the deal and he delivered a massive fta $ increase, more than the afl for the first time ever. Maybe if he had been given the opportunity to take on news ltd he might have delivered a bigger total deal than afl, maybe not. Simple fact is we will never know.
as for Vlandys who knows what he’s signed us up to, for the first time in 20 years the nrl has refused to announce what the deal is.

ch9 was the main provider of funds to the nrl in the Last deal, not foxtel. Ch9 $185mill a year, foxtel $155mill

it’s nice living in our perth bubble, apparently we’ve got the strongest economy in the world!


Did a bit more research on Smith, and it supports my view he did not understand the club situation, the politics of the game, nor the relationship good or bad between the NRL's broadcasters.Most of the info came from SMH and the AFR not News.

1) The decision to go to 9 first was in fact a collective between Grant,Samuel and Smith.Samuel and Smith had little understanding of rugby league and the issues and both have admitted the fact.Grant who was a former Kangaroo had lost touch with the game for decades, and that showed when he called a club by the wrong name for Sea Eagles(yes minor).
Critics of the deal claimed that by going early the code had cost itself the chance of securing a deal to rival the AFL's $2.5b deal.

2). Smith refused to allow channels 7 and 9 to compete for a game.Both channels asked for the right to present to Smith.He ignored them.Smart move NOT.So another FTA wanted to bid and he told them to get knicked.I'll bet Gyngell sent over a few 6 packs after that.

3) Samuel was a former AFL commissioner, and he naturally pushed for getting max revenue (he thought) together with Grant and Smith to go for broke and negotiate with 9 only before Foxtel.Their naivety showed because Rupert then went on the warpath.

4)Because these smug guys thought they had achieved a "miracle ',the News CEO Robert Thomson at the AFL announcement which included everyone including Rupert Murdoch,declared his organisation would do everything within its power to help AFL's expansion into league's heartland.
To which perhaps we should say LOL,thank you Smith and Co.

5) Because of the Rambo tactics a week later after the NRL deal,Murdoch intervened by attending finally the AFL broadcast announcement to help drive a record $2.508m 6 year agreement with the AFL.
Roy Masters in the Herald
reported Murdoch's response was to pay at least $300m more for AFL rights.
Murdoch even when News owned 50% of the NRL and during SL never, repeat never attended a contract announcement, but he did at the fumbler one.

Murdoch showed he was f....ing ruthless during the SL war,Smith & Co were ignorant to that fact, and it cost the code financially as a result.So all the goodies went to Gyngell and 9 for gold bullion which in the end turned out to be silver bullion.

6) If Smith was so up to the mark in handling NRL issues, there would not be the need to employ so many
highly paid consultants.We're not using them now, in fact cutting costs and retrenching due to the COVID crap.

If any one of these guys IMO had been involved in the NRL for some time, that in this country with a small population and as the AFL has shown,yoiu recognise the ties with your broadcasters, and as a business courtesy give them equal opportunity to compete or bid for your code's offerings.

Saying that Smith did some good for the code on violence, tough on drugs, pushed for women ,introduced Touch into the rl family, but did not understand the politics of dealing with broadcasters here.

V'Landys has at least more than a clue about rugby league in this country, about dealing with major broadcasters,Smith patently did not.Else he would have said to Grant and Samuel that there is a procedure to follow, when putting rights up for bids.Not in house deals that have not happened prior.

And the deal that was done by V'Landys this year during COVID and prior to the AFL (his code's main competitor) was confidential as required in the contract.Now you can bitch on (which you often do)it could have been more,lessor the same as the AFL.It could have had a bigger or same, or less cash component as the AFL, the AFL doesn't knowing neither the crap should they.

The figure in addition for Foxtel for 7 years also ,is guesswork by media, which upsets you.All I'm concerned about, whatever that figure is, it ensures decent revenue base on which the code can go forward and expand into Brisbane.

Ch 9 paid out the main figure initially ,but onsold part rights to Foxtel, meaning Foxtel still outlays and has done so previous for the majority of the NRL broadcast revenue.

As you have the" strongest economy" in the world, you shouldn't complain about having to pay for transport and accommodation costs as part of the NRL.You should have huge companies over there backing you.
 

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Hallelujah! Finally admitted your stupidity in believing Smith could have signed the Ch9 deal without governance from the commission. Only took 5 years lol.

as outsiders and knowing afl I’m sure all three of them looked at the fta deal afl was getting and thought hang on we’re getting stiffed and went hard with nine. And it worked! 85% increase!
End of day only big impact for Fox was loss of Saturday night game, which they still had the chance to buy off nine, a mistake I believe as its nuts we don’t have a fta game on a Saturday night.
f**k Fox, they should have let smith and the team deal with them. If they couldn’t get a fair deal then by all means sack him but to get rid of him mid negotiations was weak as pss. And repeated by the commission again this year. As soon as news rattled its drum the commision collapsed in a heap, at that point we were destined to get a lower fox deal.
Who knows what Vlandys has signed us up to, be doesn’t want us to know and the RL press arent asking which is concerning.

ps there is a comment in one of the press releases at the time that mentions numerous conversations had been had with fox prior to the Ch9 deal announcement.P so it’s a furphy that they had been cut out all together.
 

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Hallelujah! Finally admitted your stupidity in believing Smith could have signed the Ch9 deal without governance from the commission. Only took 5 years lol.

as outsiders and knowing afl I’m sure all three of them looked at the fta deal afl was getting and thought hang on we’re getting stiffed and went hard with nine. And it worked! 85% increase!
End of day only big impact for Fox was loss of Saturday night game, which they still had the chance to buy off nine, a mistake I believe as its nuts we don’t have a fta game on a Saturday night.
f**k Fox, they should have let smith and the team deal with them. If they couldn’t get a fair deal then by all means sack him but to get rid of him mid negotiations was weak as pss. And repeated by the commission again this year. As soon as news rattled its drum the commision collapsed in a heap, at that point we were destined to get a lower fox deal.
Who knows what Vlandys has signed us up to, be doesn’t want us to know and the RL press arent asking which is concerning.

ps there is a comment in one of the press releases at the time that mentions numerous conversations had been had with fox prior to the Ch9 deal announcement.P so it’s a furphy that they had been cut out all together.


LOL OPSM is open Saturdays be there. If you bothered to open your ever so closed peepers in the past stated ,I noted "if" Smith had authority to do so in the past, then isn't it strange none of the so called fellow negotiators had anything to do with him, when the ch9 deal was announced.That also formed the basis of my going rogue, plus the fact ch 7 wanted to get involved and he pushed them aside has added to that view.Plus his lonesome press announcement.

In all the time the NRL has announced broadcast deals, this was the one and only occasion Smith was on his own making the annoncement.If it was all that the Commission had instructed and everything was all rosy, they would have been there, unless of course it wasn't the result they in fact wanted realising it .At every press for major sport announcements having just one rep from the sporting code is as rare as hen's teeth.Smith looked smug and confident and his loneliness at the presser showed.

Notice you ignored the 7 offer brushed aside by Smith. No competitive tension there.
Notice you ignored the fact Smith bent over for Gyngell, something you bagged Greenberg ,Gallop about in the past.

Funny Grant and Samuels then had to get involved with the Foxtel deal, going cap in hand how embarrassing.

Oh I've just bought a brand new 6 cylinder off roader, sorry it ended up being a used 4 cylinder.Who got screwed in the end.

The deal was negotiated two years before it was due, critics ask why the need to do so.
Your comments only serve to remind me on this issue, sending naive kids out to do a men's job, ends up a f*ck up.When negotiating a little civility helps at times.

News pays decent coin for the NRL,they need it ,they are a ruthless organisation, but as shown with the AFL it appears deals are done in a civil manner give all parties a shot manner.It plainly didn't happen here.
They made it known by giving the AFL a bonus according to Masters reputed to be $300m,that's an extra $50m a year, enough to help a Perth side into the NRL .

I repeat if Smith had the full blessing of the board in the decision making ,Grant, and possibly another commissioner would have been in attendance at the announcement, rather than him and the "lottery "winning Gyngell.To this day I will suspect all was not well then, between Smith and the Board.If I was own the Board and I thought this is flipping great deal,I'd have my mug in front of the cameras proclaiming the announcement.

And you continue to not to acknowledge, ignoring your major source of income over the decades is a good thing.I have zero love for News ,and their journos,I ahve also last year cancelled Foxtel.

You will not respond to views as to why the NRL did not employ someone with a knowledge of rugby league, like the AFL does with their CEOs.
85% increase LOL of a part FMD ,Did you bother to compare the whole the fumblers got, $2.5bn.

I call BS to the last para ,because of the knock back to the seperate bids from 9 and 7 ,to the reaction by having Murdoch(first time ever) attend a deal announcement and it was the AFL, because of the early negotiations with 9.
The negotiations have in the past involved all 3 parties trying to achieve a maximum benefit for each.

Keep you and I and your competition guessing.If it means long term revenue that ensures the game grows and continues ,I have no problems.As if AFL is going to tell us how much contra is involved in their deals now. I adopt the approach give your competitors nothing, the more they know the moire they can use against you.

V'Lad has got kudos from Govt State and Federal , and even within the AFL for ensuring the season started as envisioned ,had the bubbles operating pretty well and to date not one NRL, player has COVID,and secured Pay TV deal til end 2027 ,kept transparency between head office and the clubs(something lacking in the past).
You whine about his suits and he hasn't told you what the new deal was LOL.seriously.
You don't like his bluntness or his shots at the AFL.I say about friggin time, we have been for a major sport too damn timid in promoting the game, and worrying about getting cheap shots at our code.He is standing up for the code at last.

Smith in particular because of his lack of familiarity with how Foxtel and News ruthlessly operate here, was naive enough to believe Foxtel will pay overs for the crumbs.And everyone knows how nasty Murdoch gets if he's been snookered.
The question that will never be answered, if Smith had followed and insisted such that all parties should be involved ,not just a feinting manoeuvre to 9, how much better off financially would the game have been ,than the end up 2015 result.We get enough crap from News media as is, this deal only made them more vengeful.
 
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If the deal Smith negotiated with Ch9 was as good as PR says, why did Ch9 sell the Sat night game to Foxtel and give up exclusivity of their other 3 games?

Ch9 played Smith like a fiddle, getting their hands on everything important and then making a fortune from selling it back to Foxtel. Now they're whinging because people who have Foxtel aren't watching games on Ch9.

What did the idiots think would happen?

If I am paying for a service that gives me every game live and ad-free, without the shit commentary that Ch9 serves up, then I am going to watch it there and avoid Ch9 like the plague.
 

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Well actually Vlandys just announced the latest tv deal on his own, so not exactly a unique situation is it?
Main thing is you’ve finally woken up to the reality of corporate governance, well done. Better late than never!
 

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Well actually Vlandys just announced the latest tv deal on his own, so not exactly a unique situation is it?
Main thing is you’ve finally woken up to the reality of corporate governance, well done. Better late than never!

At a press conference ,during COVID WTF .Unless of course COVID has been going around ,like measles for 100 years.Please enlighten me on that medical history.Show me all the public presses in healthy years with b...all there.

Making usual incorrect assumptions again.You still don't get it, because your eyes are closed permanently to the real world.I have posed the questions constantly and continually why I believe Smith went rogue.
I have not altered my view on that one iota, unless it can be shown definitively otherwise and to date it hasn't.

There was no COVID around in 2015 FFS, a clear healthy situation existed ,and we all know Grant loved to hog the cameras .Both V lad and Abdo were involved in the Foxtel negotiations for the 7 year effort, and they were also financially to be kept in confidence.

The fact he (Grant) didn't appear when the ch9 announcement was made, adds to the rogue intrigue, throw in Smith knocking back ch7 's interest ,and his plainly admitted inexperience(ie naivety about the NRL in this country).Samuels later also made the point about the NRL being far less amateur re finances than the AFL.Interestingly both he and another commissioner left the commission because of that fact.
Throw in Grant did not resign at the same time if he was 100% happy, in fact he left 2 years later.

If Smith (as one experienced in financial negotiations as a Banker,) had any sort of clue ,he should have studied the methodology of prior NRL negotiations involving FTA and News. or at least state to the Commission, News will play hard ball if we go that way(for tre first time) even though they need us .Banking a profit making enterprise answering to shareholdersis not Sport here (a non profit organisation)

The fact you have knocked all prior CEOs before they have put their feet to the ground and virtually ignored your mate all the way,I take your comments very lightly.

Your telling me how to suck eggs on Corporate governance sheesh, have you bothered to read or view business reports about CEOs over the years ,where CEOS have in fact done their thing, and subsequently been removed.If every CEO followed corporate governance as required ,we would not have had the rubbish that public and private companies have experienced at times over the years.Governance like the Law gets ignored at times.

I own shares mate and have had enough financial experience in private enterprise (banking/exports),so you are the last person for me to seek advice on Corporate Governance..
 

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Like I said well done for finally agreeing with me that no way in the world an nrl ceo gets to sign off on a tv deal without commision oversight, we got there in the end. No doubt I’ll be right about Vlandys screwing us with this fox extension and in a few years you can admit you was wrong about that as well!
 

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Like I said well done for finally agreeing with me that no way in the world an nrl ceo gets to sign off on a tv deal without commision oversight, we got there in the end. No doubt I’ll be right about Vlandys screwing us with this fox extension and in a few years you can admit you was wrong about that as well!

You are desperately still trying to make assumptions about my views and you are constantly wrong.I accept you are fallible ,get used to it.
.Repeat one more time for the clueless,I have not changed my view on him going rogue, and the comment about Grant supposedly being involved initially conflicts with him being alone at the presser ,and him Smith refusing to agree to the right for both 9 and 7 to present to their bids.Unprofessional as he ignored them, and that was spelt out.

Mate after you continual bagging prior CEOs even before they warmed their seats, and then praising them when flicked, you don't know whether you're Arthur or Martha.Take you seriously LOL.
The fact V'Landys beat the AFL to the draw on getting the comp up and running, and has given the code some financial certainty for a few years<I'll back him over you.
You offer a lot of criticisms and SFA solutions.
 

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And to further reinforce and underpin my view on the rogue aspect AFR 22/10/15.

Now realisation that Smith sidelined or didn't draw on the advice of John Knox Credit Suisse Australia Boss( Who was advising the NRL on negotiations) before the decision was made to lock in the FTA deal with Nine.Then tell Patrick Delany's fox Sports about it afterwards.
Interesting this article noted that Knox -who had great success negotiating Cricket Australia's $500m broadcast deal-is no longer advising the NRL.IOW p*ssed off.
He thus ignored the advice of the very mob advising the NRL,on how to approach the deals.
Again the ch 9 and ch7 offers /presentations were ignored .

In the Guardian 20/10/15(not a News publication) a leftist paper they noted Grant's view after Smith handed in his Reso"the end job is to get the right person -indicating the NRL prefer to appoint an in house candidate."
This paper also noted Smith was constantly at odds with the clubs at the direction of the game and dividing up of the revenue.
Grant thus admitting not directly inexperience was not teh answer.


So we thus have an admission by Grant, the non sports experience appointment was less than they expected.
The Herald on 20/10/15 noted there had been rumours of a fallout between Grant and Smith for some time, as well as he lost the confidence of decision makers at RL Central.

No doubt News played a part but they were prior revenue partners,but so did Head Office and indeed at times the guy himself, the do it his way also played part in the end of his reign.
 

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