The Case for Adelaide.....

[mongoose]

How about moving a no home team like the Brisbane Broncos to Adélaïde and replacing them with two new Brisbane clubs.

move the most successful club off field away from its fans? yeah nah

 

[Rugged Rigid Robust Roy]

you mean, the most unsuccessful wooden spooners whose fans have deserted them yeah yeah

 

[flippikat]

Relocation is a pipedream and if we are basing our hope for growing the game on that pipedream then it simply isn't going to happen, ever.
Better we actually have a realistic expansion strategy that considers where, when, whats needed and how best to use the extra content to cover the cost.

You're right - hence the "they won't, but humour me" comment.. and V'Landys has been extremely disappointing in his attitude towards "rusted in AFL states".. so do we lobby to change his mind, or lobby to replace him with someone progressive on expansion?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I can easily see it getting to 20 teams
In about 10-15 years, Perth and Adelaide will have teams, just might be relocations rather than new clubs for those cities, as the newer clubs added would more likely be the teams in areas that are more heartland areas

It makes a great deal of sense relocating struggling teams to Adelaide and Perth, like VFL did with Swans and Lions, but the ARLC doesn't have the power to do this and the dynamics that led to South Melbourne and Fitzroy relocating were completely different. NRL clubs have a voice on matters like this and will vote against relocation, whereas the VFL clubs were broke and didn't have these privileges. Our game is beholden to the broadcasters and cashed up clubs, who are against expansion into AwFuL territory. We could end up with the 17th and 18th teams being Brisbane 2 and 3/NZ 2.

Gallop dangled a carrot in front of struggling Sydney clubs to relocate when they were given far less funding than today. Any team that accepted would receive an extra grant. They turned it down.

PVL is against relocation.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

SOO Coming Back to Adelaide in 2023.. Giddyup..

Not necessarily a case for the Rams but really glad the NRL are bringing it back to the city of churches after last years' game here was postponed, no lead-up promos in town, fly in fly out, crowd restrictions, missing many interstate fans from both teams (primarily NSW - Blatchy's etc). Recognising the issues previously and an appetite to come back here. Of course, hopefully no more Covid impacts in the future it'll be a "proper job" this time around.

At the very least, it can bring Adelaide into the mainstream conversations for potential expansion. It'll be a perfect time for the League Media to spend time over here for the days leading up to the game - given Hindmarsh stadium will be upgraded by then for the 2023 Womens World Cup. IE even if Riverbank West is on ice, or passed on, we DO have a class rectangular stadium of sufficient size that can host rugby league games..(housing 20k+ for the WC, tbc after pending any reconfig).

And while I've not been to Bankwest before so can't comment here, It'd have to be the closest a crowd can get to the sideline in Oz (Rugby League). Anything closer and you'd be able to coathanger the touchies as they ran past you.

 

[MugaB]

SOO Coming Back to Adelaide in 2023.. Giddyup..

Not necessarily a case for the Rams but really glad the NRL are bringing it back to the city of churches after last years' game here was postponed, no lead-up promos in town, fly in fly out, crowd restrictions, missing many interstate fans from both teams (primarily NSW - Blatchy's etc). Recognising the issues previously and an appetite to come back here. Of course, hopefully no more Covid impacts in the future it'll be a "proper job" this time around.

At the very least, it can bring Adelaide into the mainstream conversations for potential expansion. It'll be a perfect time for the League Media to spend time over here for the days leading up to the game - given Hindmarsh stadium will be upgraded by then for the 2023 Womens World Cup. IE even if Riverbank West is on ice, or passed on, we DO have a class rectangular stadium of sufficient size that can host rugby league games..(housing 20k+ for the WC, tbc after pending any reconfig).

And while I've not been to Bankwest before so can't comment here, It'd have to be the closest a crowd can get to the sideline in Oz (Rugby League). Anything closer and you'd be able to coathanger the touchies as they ran past you.

I like all this, very sound, except at bankwest stadium you're fairly close to coathangers and touchies there aswell

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

I like all this, very sound, except at bankwest stadium you're fairly close to coathangers and touchies there aswell

Catering for the ultimate game-day experience!

 

[Perth Red]

You're right - hence the "they won't, but humour me" comment.. and V'Landys has been extremely disappointing in his attitude towards "rusted in AFL states".. so do we lobby to change his mind, or lobby to replace him with someone progressive on expansion?

he’s just signed on for three more years but hopefully he will be gone by the time a decision on the 18th club comes around.

 

[Tigers1986]

Brisbane 2, Perth, NZ 2, Adelaide is my ideal expansion. I'm not sure Tasmania has the interest or fanbase :/

 

[siv]

I kind of think the NRL should de-merge Wests Tigers and relocate one party, maybe to Adelaide. Only problem is both Tigers and Magpies are massive AFL clubs. They might have to change their mascot

Roosters are the best placed to make Adelaide a success

 

[mongoose]

Roosters are the best placed to make Adelaide a success

Difference is Roosters have no reason to relocate. They are successful on and off the field and have a brand new stadium being built.

The Tigers are perennial also rans, struggle to attract talent - even compared to the other west sydney clubs. They have multiple home grounds with an unhappy marriage between a club from what is now very gentrified inner west and one on the outskirts of sydney. Fresh start somewhere else might be what the club needs.

 

[siv]

Difference is Roosters have no reason to relocate. They are successful on and off the field and have a brand new stadium being built.

The Tigers are perennial also rans, struggle to attract talent - even compared to the other west sydney clubs. They have multiple home grounds with an unhappy marriage between a club from what is now very gentrified inner west and one on the outskirts of sydney. Fresh start somewhere else might be what the club needs.

Adelaide need a strong club with no juniors

Add a bit of yellow and they are instantly the state colours

They already attract 20k fans when they play in Adelaide

Politis's money and NSWRL influence wont last forever

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Adelaide need a strong club with no juniors

Add a bit of yellow and they are instantly the state colours

They already attract 20k fans when they play in Adelaide

Politis's money and NSWRL influence wont last forever

Getting around Adelaide I see (and have seen for a while) an eye-opening amount of folk getting around in NRL supporter gear..

The predominant clubs?

Broncos, Storm, and... The Roosters..

Aka Brisbane, Melbourne, and Sydney (even though they will always be easts to me).

The roosters possibly have more fans here than in Bondi...

 

[MugaB]

Adelaide need a strong club with no juniors

Add a bit of yellow and they are instantly the state colours

They already attract 20k fans when they play in Adelaide

Politis's money and NSWRL influence wont last forever

Ive been saying this for years, not only do they not have juniors where they are, their catchment is minimal compared to wests (or any other team in sydney for that matter), wests cover the macarthur area aswell the inner west and Ryde areas, there is no chance tigers move purely as there will be a gaping whole in pathways that both magpies and tigers both cover, but if the roosters move away from Sydney then nothing changes, they'd be the only club that could relocate to the moon and still be successful, if you relocate any other sydney based team, they'll be huge ramifications at junior level, not to mention opening up rival codes to those areas

 

[Perth Red]

Adelaide need a strong club with no juniors

Add a bit of yellow and they are instantly the state colours

They already attract 20k fans when they play in Adelaide

Politis's money and NSWRL influence wont last forever

It’s not politis money it’s the roosters money, they have a significant asset base and wealth generation. It’s a myth that they are reliant on politis for funding. If you’re waiting for any Sydney team to relocate because of financial problems you are going to be waiting a very very long time!

https://www.roosters.com.au/siteassets/2020/documents/sr2019-annualreport-spreads_opt.pdf

 

[siv]

It’s not politis money it’s the roosters money, they have a significant asset base and wealth generation. It’s a myth that they are reliant on politis for funding. If you’re waiting for any Sydney team to relocate because of financial problems you are going to be waiting a very very long time!

https://www.roosters.com.au/siteassets/2020/documents/sr2019-annualreport-spreads_opt.pdf

Note I said Adelaide will need a strong club to grow the game locally

Take the miney they pumo into the CC & Bears and redirect it to Adelaide

And suddenly you will see a strong franchise

 

[Perth Red]

Note I said Adelaide will need a strong club to grow the game locally

Take the miney they pumo into the CC & Bears and redirect it to Adelaide

And suddenly you will see a strong franchise

Its the nrls job to grow tne game in SA, not the roosters. Unless there is a strong financial benefit to the roosters in having a longer term link with Adelaide it won’t happen, clubs are businesses first and foremost. As you can see from the figures in the annual report there is zero financial need for roosters to move anywhere permanently.

 

[MugaB]

Its the nrls job to grow tne game in SA, not the roosters. Unless there is a strong financial benefit to the roosters in having a longer term link with Adelaide it won’t happen, clubs are businesses first and foremost. As you can see from the figures in the annual report there is zero financial need for roosters to move anywhere permanently.

It would benefit the whole league, not just roosters, roosters get a city to themselves, catchments, juniors, and 1.5 milion unrivaled possible fans, plus an instant victorian rival, sets up SA vs VIC hate that ALF has,
NRL loses nothing in sydney via pathways and catchments, one less sydney based club in the market even opens up a possible return of North Sydney, and a similar movement of the "sea eagles" in the same fashion to Christchurch or Perth, which better suits pathways at the northern suburbs/gosford, having a bears share gosford stadium and moore park, and return of south sydney to moore park also

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

It would benefit the whole league, not just roosters, roosters get a city to themselves, catchments, juniors, and 1.5 milion unrivaled possible fans, plus an instant victorian rival, sets up SA vs VIC hate that ALF has,
NRL loses nothing in sydney via pathways and catchments, one less sydney based club in the market even opens up a possible return of North Sydney, and a similar movement of the "sea eagles" in the same fashion to Christchurch or Perth, which better suits pathways at the northern suburbs/gosford, having a bears share gosford stadium and moore park, and return of south sydney to moore park also

While I’m not an advocate of relocation in general, of all the Sydney clubs indeed the Roosters make the most sense to me on this basis if any team was to be relocated.

The thing is that the Roosters are enormously successful off the field, not just on it. Relocation is only something that should be considered if a club is in dire straits for mine. As long as they don’t take their problems with them.

The other question spinning in my head is, as much as I’d love a team in Adelaide and would support them (behind the Dragons)...

Could I actually support the Roosters??

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Ive been saying this for years, not only do they not have juniors where they are, their catchment is minimal compared to wests (or any other team in sydney for that matter), wests cover the macarthur area aswell the inner west and Ryde areas, there is no chance tigers move purely as there will be a gaping whole in pathways that both magpies and tigers both cover, but if the roosters move away from Sydney then nothing changes, they'd be the only club that could relocate to the moon and still be successful, if you relocate any other sydney based team, they'll be huge ramifications at junior level, not to mention opening up rival codes to those areas

If Roosters do relocate to Adelaide, which team absorbs the City of Sydney?

Do Manly become the Sydney Sea Eagles and play out of SFS, covering the North Shore down to Sydney?