The Children Overboard issue develops

[King of the Hill]

Yes I would
21!

 

[^ Pando]

Why would he have lost his job? Someone else in an earlier post said that Scrafton had no political ties. Is this wrong?

 

[Jimbo]

Yes I would
21!

'21 today, 21 today...'

 

[Anonymous]

This whole report contains third hand information and heresay from people who weren't there.

Divine's article contains quotes from people describing in some detail how the boats were scuttled.

Do the math.

LMAO.

During the events of Siev 4 and the children overboard allegations, which one of these statements sounds more likely...

1.) Commander Banks was onboard the HMAS Adelaide.
2.) Miranda Devine was onboard the HMAS Adelaide.

 

[_Johnsy]

"No. We deny the intent"

You start off denying he lied, then it moved to the intent.

Well which one is it, you cant have it both ways.

 

[King of the Hill]

There must be an intent to lie
Duh

 

[Jimbo]

LMAO.

During the events of Siev 4 and the children overboard allegations, which one of these statements sounds more likely...

1.) Commander Banks was onboard the HMAS Adelaide.
2.) Miranda Devine was onboard the HMAS Adelaide.

I didn't say Devine was on the boat. She has quoted people who were though

"No. We deny the intent"

You start off denying he lied, then it moved to the intent.

Well which one is it, you cant have it both ways.

A lie is the act of intentionally misleading. You have been unable to prove Prime Minister Howard had the intent to mislead. He is therefore not a liar.

 

[^ Pando]

Good point Jimbo.

 

[_Johnsy]

as he said "I did not set out to mislead".......

Note he did not say "I did not mislead"

Big big difference, the above comments would tell you he did mislead, but he did not set out to do so. Simple.... he lied.

 

[mickdo]

You forget one very important point Johnsy... Johnny never lies :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Jimbo]

as he said "I did not set out to mislead".......

Note he did not say "I did not mislead"

Big big difference, the above comments would tell you he did mislead, but he did not set out to do so. Simple.... he lied.

He did not set out to do so. Meaning, there was no intent.

So he didn't lie.

 

[JK]

I disagree

Stop the press! :lol:

 

[_Johnsy]

So if I am in court giving evidence, and I dont mean to mislead, but I do.....its ok ?

:roll:

 

[^ Pando]

as he said "I did not set out to mislead".......

Note he did not say "I did not mislead"

Big big difference, the above comments would tell you he did mislead, but he did not set out to do so. Simple.... he lied.

There is a big difference between being wrong, and lying.

 

[JK]

Why would he have lost his job? Someone else in an earlier post said that Scrafton had no political ties. Is this wrong?

:lol:
Surely you can keep up better than that!
He was seconded to the Ministers office and could have been sacked by the Minister.

 

[Anonymous]

LMAO.

During the events of Siev 4 and the children overboard allegations, which one of these statements sounds more likely...

1.) Commander Banks was onboard the HMAS Adelaide.
2.) Miranda Devine was onboard the HMAS Adelaide.

I didn't say Devine was on the boat. She has quoted people who were though.

You seem enjoy cutting out relevant sections to suit your own argument. Ordinary stuff Jimbo.

Devine quoted a Liberal Senator's appendix. This was based on early reports which later disproved by CDF.

You seem to have trouble reading departmental reports and rely more on conjecture from a columnist.

Perhaps the weekend TV guide is a good source for you as well.

 

[JK]

"I did not intend to have sexual relations with that woman"

Is this now ok?

 

[^ Pando]

So if I am in court giving evidence, and I dont mean to mislead, but I do.....its ok ?

:roll:

Of course it's OK as far as your evidence goes. If you aren't meaning to mislead, what else can you do?

Care to put your question into some sort of context?

 

[^ Pando]

"I did not intend to have sexual relations with that woman"

Is this now ok?

Was Clinton given bad advice on how good Lewinsky was in bed? :lol:

 

[mickdo]

as he said "I did not set out to mislead".......

Note he did not say "I did not mislead"

Big big difference, the above comments would tell you he did mislead, but he did not set out to do so. Simple.... he lied.

There is a big difference between being wrong, and lying.

But if you initially are wrong, then are correctly informed that you are wrong by those who would know, but continue to say those wrong things, then you aren't lying? :lol: