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The Comic Book Film Thread *** SPOILERS ***

Storm13

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Can't believe X-men movies will be pushing 20 years going by that movie timeline :shock:
 
McNulty

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T.S Quint said:
The part about their universe being tied together with a piece of string.
Right now we don't know how their universe ties together - we've only seen one movie from this series so far. To say that it is weakly tied implies that he knows something he doesn't.

Marvel has done well to create their movie universe, but it didn't happen overnight. We didn't know what Avengers would be like after seeing only Iron Man. It didn't fall apart after the lacklustre The Incredible Hulk.
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You only need to take a look at what has happened so far.

On one hand you have the Marvel Movies. They started with one movie and within that movie they planted seeds. It did well, they planted some more, etc etc and we have what we have now.

On the other hand we have the DC movies. Batman was great. Loved it. But it was just that, Batman. All of a sudden they've decided to link 2 franchises with no back story, nothing in either movie to link them. They've seen what Marvel has built and thought hey, let's try that...without respecting the process that they went through.

I'll still sit back and enjoy all the DC movies and hopefully moving forward there is a bit more foresight and better planning.
 
Frederick

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There are two key differences...studio independence, and Kevin Feige.

DC are at the mercy of Warner Bros. The reason marvel are able to successfully transition characters like Guardians of the Galaxy from the pages where only the hardcore know them, to the screen where they are embraced by the masses is due to the fact the studio is run by comic book fans, which allows them to take greater liberties with unusual characters and situations. DC still have to answer to a bunch of suits who, due to being unfamiliar with the source material, may not allow as great liberties to be taken, instead going for the safer route.

Then there's Feige, who is the main man behind the marvel cinematic universe, and the reason it has successfully intertwined characters and story lines the way it has. Feige is the man with the plan, and in his mind will know exactly how every movie relates to one another. To my knowledge DC don't have a puppet master in the mould of Feige
 
runatme

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action scenes in avengers were terribly shot
lamest of lame villains
terribly boring film
 
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T.S Quint

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McNulty said:
You only need to take a look at what has happened so far.

On one hand you have the Marvel Movies. They started with one movie and within that movie they planted seeds. It did well, they planted some more, etc etc and we have what we have now.

On the other hand we have the DC movies. Batman was great. Loved it. But it was just that, Batman. All of a sudden they've decided to link 2 franchises with no back story, nothing in either movie to link them.
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I'm not sure what you mean here.
They are not linking two franchises. The Dark Knight series is a completely separate thing.
DC have one movie - Man of Steel - so far in this new universe. The next one will introduce a new Batman (as well as other characters).
It's basically the same as what Iron Man was to Marvel. Just the first movie. They planted some seeds in Iron Man (the end credit scene, nothing else) just like MoS had little things like the Wayne Enterprises satellite (not sure if there was anything else).


They've seen what Marvel has built and thought hey, let's try that...without respecting the process that they went through.
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DC doesn't have to do things the way Marvel did them. It worked for them, good. It may have worked for DC to do it that way as well. But I'm glad they are doing something a bit different and introducing some these characters together. It doesn't have to be the same to be successful. All they need is to make good movies (even if they don't they can still make a shitload of money).

I'll still sit back and enjoy all the DC movies and hopefully moving forward there is a bit more foresight and better planning.
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I to will enjoy seeing these movies coming to the screen.
But to say there's been no planning is a bit absurd. I'm pretty sure they've been planning this universe for a while now (before MoS) and have been waiting to make sure they can get it right to announce it all.
Did Marvel introduce their entire slate before Iron Man was a success? If it was a complete bomb do you think they would have continued with it? I highly doubt it.
 
T.S Quint

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Frederick said:
Whedon has more talent in his pinky toe than Snyder will ever have
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Whedon is a terrific writer, but is just a good director.
Snyder, I think is the opposite. Has a wonderful visual style but needs a lot of help writing a script.

I loved The Avengers...but I don't think it is anything more than just a fun, big-budget action movie. It has plenty of problems (even some with the script) but it is somewhat excused because you are having such a good time watching it.

I was kid of the same with MoS - I love it and excuse it's problems because I have fun watching it...but I think it was more ambitious in trying to tell a story than the Avengers was.
I give it a lot of credit for that, and for showing us a Superman we've never seen on screen before.
I understand people's frustrations with it. I can see they want something fun and colourful...or just something that makes sense, lol. I like to give some credit for trying something, even if it doesn't ultimately come off (same with Prometheus).
 
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That's the thing here, the people complaining about Warners/DC rushing into group films are probably the same ones who would complain that they were just copying Marvel if they announced a few individual films 1st followed by Justice League.
 
T.S Quint

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I've seen enough. I already know I want to see it.
Now I can try and avoid seeing too much more so I can be surprised by everything I see. I hate it when I see a movie and I'm like "It would have been so cool if I didn't know that was coming."
 
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