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The Eels Centre Of Excellence - Parramatta Jail

Parra

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Maybe the rules could be changed to make the field 144 x 75 metres and play 17 a side with two balls.
 

Jodeci

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It is possible that the board are trying to make the club (and themselves) wealthier at the expense of the fans, in much the same way the NRL just did with the new tv deal.

I'll tell you what the club is doing.

The club is trying to secure a better deal in order for us to stay at Parra.

The Board would rather us stay at Parra cause it helps the Leagues Club as well as the Shop so if you for a minute they would rather play at ANZ then it's rubbish

The deal was a 5yr agreement which expires at the end of next year but the deal is killing the club cause we need to hit certain crowd figures just to break even.

The club was looking at getting some ease or movement in the 5th year and the trust wont help.
 

bartman

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Thanks for the update J, it's much appreciated. But what does this bit mean?

The deal was a 5yr agreement which expires at the end of next year but the deal is killing the club cause we need to hit certain crowd figures just to break even.

The club was looking at getting some ease or movement in the 5th year and the trust wont help.
I don't understand in those words exactly what it is the club is seeking from the trust? Nor why the club thinks the trust should give any "ease" or "movement" in the 5th year of a contract?

I presume the contract was signed in late 2008 for 2009 onwards. Of course it's a shame that during 2010 the club sought to employ a shit coach which in turn led to shit results, and as a result we've perhaps had lower than expected crowds, and that's the situation we're now in. But I don't get why any of that means suddenly the contract we've been on for four of those five years becomes more of a sticking point to getting the Memberships organised?
 

born an eel

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unless they do not like to play the $100K hit when they want to move a game.

you really can't blame the trust/eventsNSW for enforcing a contract after last year
 

bartman

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Ah, it's ok J - don't worry about that question. I found the answer in an article (not in an email to members from the club, but) quoted in the Mudgee thread.... http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...-go-on-bush-bash/story-e6frep5x-1226492363806
Parramatta's HQ has so far been unable to sell 2013 memberships thanks to a stand-off with the Parramatta Stadium Trust.
Eels officials wanted their previous tenancy deal - worth $1.7 million over the past five years - halved to achieve consistency with other clubs.
A new five-year agreement was reached this week, which will only guarantee Parramatta Stadium hosts eight games per season until 2018.
Aside from the Mudgee fixture, two matches will once again be staged at Olympic Park's ANZ Stadium and the remaining fixture to be determined each season.
So does that mean from 2014 we will play 8 home games at Parra, the usual 2 at ANZ, 1 in the country somewhere and 1 somewhere else?

So (directed at anyone), do we get 9 games at Parra this year (2013), or are they looking to move another game so that we only get 8 games at Parra in 2013?

And we will get a 20% cut in our ticketed membership prices, give the number of Parra Stadium home games has been reduced from 10 to 8 (or a 16% cut since home games guaranteed to be held in Sydney have dropped from 12 to 10)?
 
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Maroubra Eel

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We must be happy with the trust otherwise we wouldn't have just signed a new 5 year deal. So everythings now sweet.
 

bartman

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I think the Mudgee thread is where the answers to my questions on the new stadium deal will be...

I should leave this thread alone for discussion about the jail as a training facility.
 

Expansion

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Most of the problem comes from just being too far from the action. It is no good for people who want to go to the footy to watch the footy. Probably OK for others - it is a lowest common denominator venue and in a city the size of Sydney it is probably all that is needed. There will be enough people who don't really care to fill the joint.

Rubbish. I manage to see the game just fine from my seat at ANZ.
 

forward pass

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I'm not against the move. But it's not a rugby league stadium. It is larger and circular meaning you are further away from the view. For example, if you are seated behind the goal posts there is probably a 20 metre gap between the front row of seating and the dead ball line. In the upper tiers you're so far away from the action often you can get a better view of the big screen than the field.

How many home games do you think will have fans sitting in the upper tiers?? None ! The capacity of the lower bowl is more then enough to cope with even our large crowds.

Most of the problem comes from just being too far from the action. It is no good for people who want to go to the footy to watch the footy. Probably OK for others - it is a lowest common denominator venue and in a city the size of Sydney it is probably all that is needed. There will be enough people who don't really care to fill the joint.

I think we have all been spoilt by Parra Stadium. God knows how much people on here would whinge if they watched a cricket match at the MCG !
 

Gronk

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PARRAMATTA have turned to a former Australian Test cricketer in their quest to create a state-of-the-art training facility.
Architect Graeme Watson, an all-rounder who played five Tests for Australia in the 1960s and 1970s, has been enlisted to upgrade the outdated training base as the Eels try to climb off the bottom of the ladder. The 67-year-old, who also played 18 VFL games for Melbourne and was the first person to play in the Sheffield Shield for three states, had an integral role in designing South Sydney's Centre of Excellence at Redfern.
Watson's brief is two-fold - to build the Eels their own centre of excellence, a project he predicts could take between two to three years to complete. However, his immediate focus is on providing the club an immediate facility that will satisfy their needs when the players return from their Christmas break.
Officials had been eyeing off the recently decommissioned Parramatta jail, which had previously housed notorious criminals including Arthur ''Neddy'' Smith, Darcy Dugan and George Freeman.
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However, that option now appears unlikely and several other potential sites are being investigated. Watson will meet Eels powerbrokers on Wednesday to put forward a proposal to address the issues.
''What they do have at the moment is totally unacceptable from an NRL standard,'' Watson said. ''They've got a training field which is just three-quarter sized. How one expects to have an NRL team train on that, it's just archaic.
''We have the immediate issue of getting them a training field that is up to the standard of NRL, but equally so determining the infrastructure we'll need to support that. We're looking at about five or six different facilities.''
Watson, whose cricketing career almost ended prematurely when he copped a Tony Greig bouncer in the face, aims to provide coach Ricky Stuart with the resources needed to be serious NRL contenders. ''Our high-performance centre would be not dissimilar to what we did with the South Sydney Rabbitohs,'' he said of the longer-term project.
When Parramatta Stadium opened in 1986 it was the envy of rivals. However, the facility is now in desperate need of a makeover. The state government's stadiums strategy has earmarked the building or rebuilding of a ground to service Sydney's west and the Eels will lobby for the funds to be spent in their area.
The strategy of the Sports Minister, Graham Annesley, strategy does not augur well for suburban grounds, with Leichhardt and Brookvale ovals most under threat.
The head of the Brookvale Oval Committee, Kerry Sibraa, has organised a meeting with Annesley for January 10. Sibraa said that one of the options they could pursue was placing the ground into a state trust.
''That's something we could agree to, especially if the mayor and the council support it,'' he said. ''We will also need to seek federal funding.''
 
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So is the training field only 3/4 width, or 3/4 length or both? I would have guessed it was normal width from memory, and if so, I don't think the shorter length would cause too much issues (so my wife says anyway :eek:) because unless you are practicing length of the field run away runs, you are mainly operating on about 30m, plus kicks.

If its only 3/4 width, maybe that explains the lack of expansive play in SK's game plan. See its not all his fault.
 

amitropo

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How do we go from a team that broke all the records as well as setting standards (using computers and diets to get the best techniques in running, passing, tackling, motor skills etc..) in 2001, to not having adequate NRL standard facilities. we should be a constant benchmark for the competition. Not many people like Brian Smith but he was one to delve into depths of training and rules to get the most out of his team. failed to win a GF as a coach but i think would be a great in goulds position not having to handle players directly.
 

Parra Pride

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What does the fact the merkin played cricket have to do with anything?

#AbsolutelyNothing #SoWhyMentionIt?
 

eloquentEEL

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How do we go from a team that broke all the records as well as setting standards (using computers and diets to get the best techniques in running, passing, tackling, motor skills etc..) in 2001, to not having adequate NRL standard facilities. we should be a constant benchmark for the competition. Not many people like Brian Smith but he was one to delve into depths of training and rules to get the most out of his team. failed to win a GF as a coach but i think would be a great in goulds position not having to handle players directly.

Because we replaced Smith with Hagan instead of Hasler.
 
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I thought we had some sort of special running machine (I remeber an article about Hindy using it) that recreated on field activity. Seemed pretty high tech at the time and it was only a couple years ago.
 

forward pass

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Quite amazing isn't it. I wouldn't even regard Tony Greig as medium pace and he still copped it in the face. Watch the ball out out of the bowlers hands, son !
 

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