The fallacy that is Souths crowd support.

[Rooster Cogburn.]

You can put as much makeup on the stats as you like but the facts are Souths crowds are no better than any other team. What's the excuse for 1989 when there wasn't a match of the day at the SCG? And leave Easts out of this. This is not about our crowds, It's all about the stupid notion that Souths attract huge crowds when they are winning which as I've clearly shown is a load of BS.

 

[Kiwi]

:twisted:

 

[Kiwi]

You can put as much makeup on the stats as you like but the facts are Souths crowds are no better than any other team. What's the excuse for 1989 when there wasn't a match of the day at the SCG? And leave Easts out of this. This is not about our crowds, It's all about the stupid notion that Souths attract huge crowds when they are winning which as I've clearly shown is a load of BS.

what about the crowds for the other teams those years? Well how did they compare? If the Souths figures minus the big games you seem to want to ignore put them towards the top of the ladder in terms of crowd figures then your arguement is shot to bits. You can't just say..."these figures are crap" without comparing them to other teams in the same years. So like it or not the Roosters ARE apart of the arguement.

 

[bulldog]

You should not argue with an ignorant man.

 

[Big Bunny]

You can put as much makeup on the stats as you like but the facts are Souths crowds are no better than any other team. What's the excuse for 1989 when there wasn't a match of the day at the SCG? And leave Easts out of this. This is not about our crowds, It's all about the stupid notion that Souths attract huge crowds when they are winning which as I've clearly shown is a load of BS.

Souths do attract good crowds when winning, but it was never stated that the crowds were great during the 80's, as they weren't for ANY Sydney clubs. How about you look at the 1989 crowds in perpspective though? Why didn't you take note of the fact that only 4 games in Sydney that year drew higher crowds than Souths 2 best attended home games? (Parra x 2, Balmain 1, Dogs 1).

When next the Roosters drop down the ladder (it may be soon) perhaps you should check how fast your crowds fall away. You'll see the current strength of Souths in that it has a great base from which to work on. We now have a rock bottom of 8,500 fans to call upon in tough times. The Roosters on the other hand will quickly fade towards 5000 and lower when things get tough. Souths had some fickle support in the past, but with a hint of irony our exclusion has given steel to Souths resolve and that fickle Rooster style of support is no longer a major issue for our club. Your club on the other hand is probably a season or two away from your McDonalds coupon scheme. I wouldn't be surprised if your shitty club started to indoctrinate foreign refugees before their release, because you sure as hell are going to need them before too long.

What HAS been stated (are you paying attention cogburn??) is that Souths WILL draw large crowds when they start winning. This fact has little to do with the past as you seem to think. The supporter base has changed, had to examine itself and it now is more proactive. You're an absolute goose if you can't see that, but hey - you are anyway!

You can twist what has been said as much as you like, but you're still trying to argue a point that few people would disagree with if placed in perspective.

You're such a pedantic "glass half full" type aren't you. :roll:

 

[Tigerpete]

You fool , how can u compare the crowds of the 60's and 70's with crowds 30 odd years later, unbelieveable! Although i will admit the statement that souths have to most fans in the league is horribly incorrect, they're simply the league's most famous club.

 

[DJ1]

You can put as much makeup on the stats as you like but the facts are Souths crowds are no better than any other team. What's the excuse for 1989 when there wasn't a match of the day at the SCG? And leave Easts out of this. This is not about our crowds, It's all about the stupid notion that Souths attract huge crowds when they are winning which as I've clearly shown is a load of BS.

The average H&A crowd for 1989 was 10,519

The average Souths Home Crowd was 11,846 an increase of 12.6% over the average crowd.

The average Souths Home and Away Crowd was 12,157 an increase of 15.6% over the average crowd.

It appears that when you examine the facts, RCs claim is wrong. Souths were drawing larger crowds than every other Sydney team with the exception of the Eels.

 

[Big Bunny]

The Easts fans never claim to have the largest crowds even though at the moment we are among the best.

You idiot. :lol:


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The act of contradicting.
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[RifRaf]

You can put as much makeup on the stats as you like but the facts are Souths crowds are no better than any other team. What's the excuse for 1989 when there wasn't a match of the day at the SCG? And leave Easts out of this. This is not about our crowds, It's all about the stupid notion that Souths attract huge crowds when they are winning which as I've clearly shown is a load of BS.

The average H&A crowd for 1989 was 10,519

The average Souths Home Crowd was 11,846 an increase of 12.6% over the average crowd.

The average Souths Home and Away Crowd was 12,157 an increase of 15.6% over the average crowd.

It appears that when you examine the facts, RCs claim is wrong. Souths were drawing larger crowds than every other Sydney team with the exception of the Eels.

REALLY??? What were Balmain's figures?? They made the GF that year and the previous year... I was almost every Leichhardt match and remember bumper crowds... It was a while ago and quite a few drinks in between... But still doesn't sound right to me....

 

[nqboy]

You should not argue with an ignorant man.

Never argue with a fool, people may not be able to tell the difference.

Still, I forget sometimes too.

 

[Rooster Cogburn.]

I could say that Yoko Ono is Japanese and there would be people on here who would argue with me. :lol:

I'm sick and tired of continually hearing the crap about Souths supposed huge army of supporters. I have delivered factual statistics which clearly shoots the Souths argument that if they are winning they will draw huge crowds out of the sky and yet we have a whole range of clueless numbskulls trying to turn the point of the argument around. I'll say it again for the stupid amongst you of which there are hundreds. Souths do not attract large crowds whether they are doing well or not doing well. End of argument, I win! \\/

 

[nqboy]

You stick to that story RC, don't let the fact that others have shot it to pieces here worry you at all :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Kiwi]

I could say that Yoko Ono is Japanese and there would be people on here who would argue with me. :lol:

I'm sick and tired of continually hearing the crap about Souths supposed huge army of supporters. I have delivered factual statistics which clearly shoots the Souths argument that if they are winning they will draw huge crowds out of the sky and yet we have a whole range of clueless numbskulls trying to turn the point of the argument around. I'll say it again for the stupid amongst you of which there are hundreds. Souths do not attract large crowds whether they are doing well or not doing well. End of argument, I win! \\/

Self praise is no praise at all.

And we are sick of reading the crap you post, easy solution to the problem is, f**k off to the wall and stay there, everybody wins.

 

[t-ba]

Your statistics have been chewed up and spit out Cogburn...

1989:4th biggest in the NSWRL.

But just to prove how absolutely crap your statistics are, here is the list of attendances for the sides that played against souths at Redfern against their average away crowds for that year. Enjoy...

Newtown:7258 vs 6617
Cronulla: 7822 vs 6897
Parramatta: 16149 vs 10454
Wests: 9362 vs 8619
Easts: 12799 vs 8470
Norths:9248 vs 8824

They beat their opponents average away attendance every time they played at Redfern...

 

[Kiwi]

I think RC is just bitter that his club has crap crowds, and will continue to have crap crowds despite making the last three grand finals.

 

[Johns Magic]

I could say that Yoko Ono is Japanese and there would be people on here who would argue with me. :lol:

I'm sick and tired of continually hearing the crap about Souths supposed huge army of supporters. I have delivered factual statistics which clearly shoots the Souths argument that if they are winning they will draw huge crowds out of the sky and yet we have a whole range of clueless numbskulls trying to turn the point of the argument around. I'll say it again for the stupid amongst you of which there are hundreds. Souths do not attract large crowds whether they are doing well or not doing well. End of argument, I win! \\/

Congratulations, 2000 posts of dribble

 

[drake]

f**k me, why didn't Mark Latham use that in the great debate?
"End of Argument I win"?
:roll:

 

[RABK]

And where were the Roosters supporters between 1990 and 1999. ;-) Your crowds were averaging 8,000 for a while there

 

[t-ba]

RC doesn't want to turn this into a debate about the Roosters. Lets just say the Roosters have a rather disgraceful record to their name ;-)

 

[Kris_man]

I live in South Sydeny territory, and it's extremely disapponting that there are Souths fans everywhere, especially young kids, heaps of whom play footy for their club, yet barely anyone turns up to the games.