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To be honest the biggest winner in all of this was the Las Vegas tourism board.

Huge promotion for the city to Australians.
That the positive not spoken of.
We have an event to sell to Las Vegas. We could leverage the double header as an annual event and open it up for bidding across the USA.
Make money spreading the game.

There's a lot of positives out of this.
 

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Abdo compared the ratings with Major League Soccer, a staple in the US, which made the NRL’s first incursion into Las Vegas a success for the league.
“The Las Vegas matches were watched by a huge number of people around the world, including a record Australian audience,” Abdo said.
“We had a 61,000 average viewership on Fox Sports 1 for the first game, which was more than one-third of the marquee college basketball clash between Xavier and Georgetown which preceded our games. That figure also compares to some US Major League Soccer games on Fox Sports 1.
“The second game attracted an average audience of 44,000. These are the two most-watched NRL matches in the US on record.
“The audience of the first game was three times higher than the most-watched NRL games on Fox Sports in the past three seasons and over 280 per cent higher than the most recent Saturday games on Fox Sports 1.
“We are proud of what we achieved this year in Las Vegas and have been blown away by how positively Americans have responded to rugby league.
“The exposure the game received and the reviews of the matches by US fans and media will be a massive boost for year two and beyond. We are very focused on the long-term opportunity this presents for the game.”
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Well said Abdo. We are really lucky to have him.
 

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I follow a few of the American sports influencers and there was nothing I can see on Rich Eisen, Pat McCafee etc.
I think a lot of that comes down to the network these guys work for. If ESPN were broadcasting it into the US McCafee would be all over it
 

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The NRL take down almost everything from YouTube. This is something that Pete and Abdo should be looking to fix before the next broadcast deal if possible.
A few years ago I posted footage of someone kicking a conversion. I took the footage from my seat in the stadium using a cheap phone’s camera. The NRL had YouTube take it down.
 

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Besides puff pieces with minimal engagement in Murdoch owned rags was any promotion done in non traditional media?

A tweet with four likes is not something that should be shared as a measure of success.

The event day itself was a success but at the moment seems like a junket for NRL executives and Australian media rather than promoting the game to the American public.

I follow a few of the American sports influencers and there was nothing I can see on Rich Eisen, Pat McCafee etc.

Even smaller guys like Clickbait Sports would have been worth getting there.

The NFL season is over and they're are desperate for content and absolutely nothing done by NRL it seems.

I watch a decent amount of college basketball on FS1 and I dont recall seeing any promos for the games. I only remembered they were going to be on by reading a thread at totalrl.
 

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Penrith and Melbourne are among the favourites to play in Las Vegas next year, Manly and Sydney Roosters want to return but could be denied, Souths won’t travel back while Brisbane is unlikely to return.

The great 2025 Las Vegas scramble has started.

NRL management will in coming weeks formally seek submissions from clubs wanting to play year two of the Vegas extravaganza.

After the Everest-like success of Vegas last weekend, teams are lining up to play in the USA next year but there is a catch – some want to be the away team to ensure more home games in Australia.

Aside from Manly and the Roosters, Canberra, Penrith and Cronulla have indicated to the NRL that they would be prepared to transfer a home game to America.

The NRL isn’t against Manly and the Roosters returning but the ARL Commission has a desire for all teams – and their fan bases – to be given US exposure.

NRL management wants to nail down the 2025 teams soon so fans can begin organising their trips to Vegas.

Penrith has lodged a strong interest in Vegas and Melbourne have also made genuine inquiries. The two clubs have been communicating.

“We want to go (to Vegas),” said Panthers CEO, Brian Fletcher, who presented the club’s travel options to his board on Wednesday.

Melbourne has also been ‘picking the brain’ of clubs that contested US games last weekend.

“Naturally we would be interested in Vegas but there are a host of variables that need to line up for us to participate and we would prefer not to give up a home game given our fans missed so many matches during Covid,” said Storm chairman Matt Tripp.

THE MAIN ISSUE

Eight clubs next year will lose one home game at Magic Round while Souths (Gosford), Manly (Mudgee), Dolphins (Perth), Parramatta (Darwin) and Sydney Roosters (Gosford) will take a home game either interstate or to the country.

Penrith will take three home games away next year – Magic Round along with matches in Mudgee and Bathurst.

Aware of commercial agreements, sponsorship arrangements, stadium contracts and membership unrest, some clubs do not want to lose a home game in Vegas if possible, though the temptation is becoming irresistible.

ROOSTERS, MANLY RETURN

Manly and the Roosters were the home sides in Vegas this year and are likely to agree to repeat that offer next year.

There is some resentment among rival clubs at Manly and the Roosters’ return with a few club CEO’s adamant the Vegas experience should be shared around.

Other clubs however claim Manly and the Roosters should be allowed to return if they play home games.

Asked whether he wanted Manly to return next year, Manly chairman Scott Penn told his club’s website: “Yes, absolutely. We are committed to this. It took a little bit of convincing in terms of internal stakeholders as it was a big commitment.

“I think everyone is on board. We can build on this. We are pushing to get an answer pretty quickly on whether we can be a long term team because we want to invest in it. We want to bring the boys over more regularly.

“We want to invest in an international fan base. We really want to build an American Eagles team.”

PANTHERS COIN CHASE

The Vegas scramble for 2025 comes as Penrith look to secure $1.5m by playing four home games away from Sydney next season – one potentially being in Vegas – to help recoup estimated annual losses of $3m due to the club’s temporary move to CommBank Stadium.

The Panthers are budgeting to lose a total of $6m in 2025 and 2026 while their new stadium is being built and the club moves to CommBank Stadium.

This masthead understands the NRL financially compensated both home sides in Vegas around $250,000, approximately the same amount away sides receive in Magic Round.

All four clubs in Vegas this year were also paid travel costs.

Penrith has already asked the NRL to be given home game status for Magic Round next season, another cash win for the premiers.

The Panthers have a commitment with Venues NSW to play a certain number of games at CommBank Stadium next season.

STORM COMING

Melbourne is considering playing an NRL game in August next year for competition points in Fiji.

The Storm wouldn’t play Suva and Vegas – they would have to choose one.

Melbourne could play Penrith in Vegas, the same two sides who play round one this year.

Souths enjoyed their Vegas-San Diego experience but won’t apply again given the substantial time officials poured into the trip.

Brisbane hasn’t finalised their stance but it’s unlikely they will seek another trip to America.

KEY CANDIDATES

Parramatta is keen but may look at 2026, Canberra and Cronulla have expressed interest for next year while the Warriors will also be considered.

“We were down to go this year if one of the four sides dropped out,” said Raiders CEO, Don Furner.

“There is an obvious link with the Las Vegas Raiders so we’d love to be a team in 2025 and we’ll be applying.”

Asked whether Canberra was prepared to be a home side, Furner said: “Yes.”

Sharks CEO Dino Mezzatesta and chairman Steve Mace travelled to Vegas to experience the build-up and games.

“The experience for players, staff and fans was amazing but this goes beyond just playing a game in the US. The opportunities are countless and the new connections made are great for the club,” Mezzatesta said.

Warriors CEO Cameron George added: “We’re very interested in working with the NRL about possibly being a team which plays in Vegas.“We are a whole new country to bring to Las Vegas and that would obviously have tourism benefits.”

SNAPPY DECISION

Abdo said the entire process would be completed quickly.

“We will formally invite clubs to submit their interest for 2025 over the course of the next few weeks. We were very pleased with the way year one went,” Abdo said.

“We know there is strong interest from clubs in this venture and we look forward to working over the next couple to determine what the configuration looks like.

“The commission will make a decision as soon as possible to give everyone certainty for 2025.”

 

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Who is paying for the English clubs venue hire and accom? Not the NRL.

Nobody seems to care about promotion of the game, it's all about a junket to Vegas.

And they think Vegas = ++$

When in reality Vegas = -- $
 

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Who is paying for the English clubs venue hire and accom? Not the NRL.

Nobody seems to care about promotion of the game, it's all about a junket to Vegas.

And they think Vegas = ++$

When in reality Vegas = -- $
That's a very simplistic equation you have there mate.
Here's another simplistic one...
All products want to grow their customer base and that cost $$$ but new customers make $$$
Simply enough for you?
 

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THE MAIN ISSUE

Eight clubs next year will lose one home game at Magic Round while Souths (Gosford), Manly (Mudgee), Dolphins (Perth), Parramatta (Darwin) and Sydney Roosters (Gosford) will take a home game either interstate or to the country.

You have to wonder if/when the NRL might just bite the bullet with this and make it either:

a) Each club keeps control of 11 home games but for the 12th they all have to be the home team for an ‘NRL event’ in either Magic or a round’s worth of games/double headers in Vegas plus Perth, Auckland, Melbourne, Adelaide, Pacific etc.
Or
b) Keep 12 home games each and have Magic as an extra round.
 

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You have to wonder if/when the NRL might just bite the bullet with this and make it either:

a) Each club keeps control of 11 home games but for the 12th they all have to be the home team for an ‘NRL event’ in either Magic or a round’s worth of games/double headers in Vegas plus Perth, Auckland, Melbourne, Adelaide, Pacific etc.
Or
b) Keep 12 home games each and have Magic as an extra round.
Honestly we could bring it down to 10 home games. It would increase the importance of attending your home fixtures resulting in bigger attendance. Sell the rest and grow the game.
We should have a Pacific round with games played in Fiji, Tonga, PNG, Samoa. Double headers in Adelaide and Perth, a Hobart game.
Annual events that make money and grow the game.
 

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