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Refereeing The Magic Round sin bin directive

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And, again, if legs tackles were actually rewarded.....old mate doesn't aim high, he goes the legs and knows he can get back to marker.

Not that the NRL will ever go for that.
ThE GamE Would bE ToO SLoW !!

Jake Trbojevic made what used to be known as “a copybook tackle” last Sunday, around the legs and stopped a parra player in his tracks in open play... he probably held him there for less than 2 seconds... but....

because he didn’t let go immediately - “6 again!!”...

Tackles like that should be applauded and rewarded... not punished.
 

taste2taste

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And that, right there, is the issue.

It is a contact sport. Accidents will always occur. Players will always get hit high, either as the attacker or the defender, and end up unconscious on the ground.....

And your Mrs will never let your kids play RL, unless we turn the sport into touch footy.

And that's perfectly fine.

What PVL is doing, is to try in vain to get your Mrs to allow the kids to play, whilst losing other women who love the sport, just the way it is (was).

We are wasting our time trying to chase people that will never love RL, and losing rusted-on fans in the process.

It's funny how PVL can say that it's pointless expanding to WA for the same type of reason, but can't see the forest for the trees on the crackdown issue.
Rusted on fans will watch regardless.
People who hate league won't watch regardless.
Think of casual fans ( mums ) as swinging voters, If they watch its the difference of dud ratings or being the most watched game in Australia.

There's no secret all major codes chase the soccer mums.
 

franklin2323

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Nothing hits that aren't injuring blokes are getting binned but. Radley v TPJ I don't feel that's a sin bin and I certainly don't think TPJ required a HIA. That'd just rob fans of 2 players unnecessarily for 10-15 minutes.

Simple thinking like that is not helping.

You slow it down. TPJ changed his ball carrying hand too. He doesn't do that and Radley hits the ball which is where they aim

TPJ was owning Walker everytime he ran it that was more dangerous then any tackle from Radley
 

franklin2323

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Jake Trbojevic made what used to be known as “a copybook tackle” last Sunday, around the legs and stopped a parra player in his tracks in open play... he probably held him there for less than 2 seconds... but....

because he didn’t let go immediately - “6 again!!”...

Tackles like that should be applauded and rewarded... not punished.

DCE made a great legs tackle... the reward was Papalli offloading for a try.

Players are just to strong to do legs tackles on these days
 

mave

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Rusted on fans will watch regardless.
People who hate league won't watch regardless.
Think of casual fans ( mums ) as swinging voters, If they watch its the difference of dud ratings or being the most watched game in Australia.

There's no secret all major codes chase the soccer mums.

And NRL will get none of them, regardless of what they do.

So let's not lose the base, chasing the ones we will never get.
 

mave

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DCE made a great legs tackle... the reward was Papalli offloading for a try.

Players are just to strong to do legs tackles on these days


Wouldn't that be a better outcome for the game though ? Actual Rugby League skills shining out loud ?

Encourage lower tackling, leads to exciting offloads, which are essentially an extra tackle.

Much better than refs manufacturing 6 agains and binnings for innocuous "high shots".
 
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There's no secret all major codes chase the soccer mums.

Its also no secret why all the major codes have evolved the womens' game in each..

Its a strategy, not just "a womens comp"... to won over the mums. ie "it's a game for everyone". AFL clubs even partnered with teams in the National Super-Netball comp. similarly. Some even have teams now (eg Collingwood). It's very smart... and they are ahead of the rest..
 

mave

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As an NRL fan, I would much rather watch DCE attempt a low tackle on Papali, and either cut him down, or concede an offload for the Gutho try......over DCE going high, clipping Papali in the chin, getting binned, and Parra score 2 tries while he is off and the game is essentially over before it really began.
 

franklin2323

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Wouldn't that be a better outcome for the game though ? Actual Rugby League skills shining out loud ?

Encourage lower tackling, leads to exciting offloads, which are essentially an extra tackle.

Much better than refs manufacturing 6 agains and binnings for innocuous "high shots".

Go back to how it was. unless a player is injured don't go back for the minor hits anything else will get picked up by the MRC.

No one wants to see scorelines of 42-40 etc that would come from such a thing
 

mave

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Go back to how it was. unless a player is injured don't go back for the minor hits anything else will get picked up by the MRC.

No one wants to see scorelines of 42-40 etc that would come from such a thing

We aren't going back to how it was. PVLs ego won't allow that.
What we need now is to have some smart tweaks to counter the rubbish that has been recently introduced.

But we need tweaks in the f**king off season, with notice, so coaches can somewhat plan rosters and drills to suit.
 

taste2taste

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And NRL will get none of them, regardless of what they do.

So let's not lose the base, chasing the ones we will never get.
What a load of baloney !
My Mrs and hundreds of thousands of mums will let the kids play and watch the game if it was safer.

The games not going to loose any rusted on fans because the refs are finally blowing penalties for high shots. The dinosaurs were going to leave when they banned punching, they were going to leave when they banned shoulder charges but they all stayed.

As discussed a few pages back there is no evidence any viewers have been lost, there is actually more evidence suggesting more people have turned on with fox recording record figures last week.
 

franklin2323

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We aren't going back to how it was. PVLs ego won't allow that.
What we need now is to have some smart tweaks to counter the rubbish that has been recently introduced.

But we need tweaks in the f**king off season, with notice, so coaches can somewhat plan rosters and drills to suit.

FTA rights up still to be sold. If this farce carries on in SOO then it will be a flop and the value drops...That will get change back.

That is why I can handle the rule changes was done to give sides time to plan. This high tackle was poorly thought out and in reality is impossible to work.

Rightly or wrongly. Sides now have 2 guys up the top. 3rd guy goes low and has been that way for atleast 10 years is a by product of the wrestle.

That takes time to modify. So SOO is going to be a disgrace with all the sin bins coming
 

mave

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What a load of baloney !
My Mrs and hundreds of thousands of mums will let the kids play and watch the game if it was safer.

You said earlier that the Mrs will never let the kids play whilst there were blokes knocked out.


You will never have a contact RL without blokes getting knocked out..be it defensive or attacking.

I hope you enjoy your touch footy. Because that is what you are advocating for.
 

taste2taste

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FTA rights up still to be sold. If this farce carries on in SOO then it will be a flop and the value drops...That will get change back.

That is why I can handle the rule changes was done to give sides time to plan. This high tackle was poorly thought out and in reality is impossible to work.

Rightly or wrongly. Sides now have 2 guys up the top. 3rd guy goes low and has been that way for atleast 10 years is a by product of the wrestle.

That takes time to modify. So SOO is going to be a disgrace with all the sin bins coming
Why do they have to modify their tackling techniques ? You can still tackle the same way just with out whacking the ball carrier in the face ?
 

taste2taste

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You said earlier that the Mrs will never let the kids play whilst there were blokes knocked out.


You will never have a contact RL without blokes getting knocked out..be it defensive or attacking.

I hope you enjoy your touch footy. Because that is what you are advocating for.
More baloney !! Im not advocating the game goes to touch, I'm saying less high tackles = less concussions = safer sport = more people playing and watching.

The greatest league journo of all time, Steve Mascord wrote an article a decade ago predicting league would eventually head down this path. So far he's been spot on with the banning of shoulder charges, high shots and punching.

He used the example of medieval times when it was normal to go to the town square and watch people get stoned or guillotined. We now look back and think how gruesome it was. In 100 years people will look back at the NRL and how it was played in 2010 think the same thing.

The times are always changing my friend ! Get onboard or get left in the medieval times.

If you want your footy with coat hangers, punching, shoulder charges, squirrel grips watch a game from the 80s....ahhh those were the days :/
 
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Saxon

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And right on cue, channel Nein led by Gus and Johns start their tirade on how this will kill the game.
 

siv

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I heard that today. That’s a phenomenal stat. For a Saturday night game, between a Broncos team going like a busted arse and a Roosters side down on troops... and historically not one of the biggest supported clubs in Sydney...

Everyone was watching to see when Radley got sent off
 

Penrose Warrior

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Radley was 1 inch away from making a great hit. He said last night he won't change his tackling style and IMO he doesn't need too. Radley has the perfect technique for the modern game, he hits damn hard around the ribs ( often dislodging the ball )
Cam Murray is another who goes hard at the ribs.

Well he does need to, because he just got 5 weeks on the sidelines. If he doesn't, well then I wish him all the best in whatever trade he chooses. Since when is the ribs near the chin?

Dopey f**king tweets too like Gould's about how Radley was once the most celebrated in the game, now the NRL are saying 'we don't want you in the new NRL'. Um, no, they're saying don't hit guys in the f**king chin and higher. They're trying to actively avoid cases like Danny Frawley in the AFL, who purposely drove his car at a tree to end his own life because of CTE. It's not to appease soccer mums, it's to not f**k up people's brains.
 

Mr Spock!

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Well he does need to, because he just got 5 weeks on the sidelines. If he doesn't, well then I wish him all the best in whatever trade he chooses. Since when is the ribs near the chin?

Dopey f**king tweets too like Gould's about how Radley was once the most celebrated in the game, now the NRL are saying 'we don't want you in the new NRL'. Um, no, they're saying don't hit guys in the f**king chin and higher. They're trying to actively avoid cases like Danny Frawley in the AFL, who purposely drove his car at a tree to end his own life because of CTE. It's not to appease soccer mums, it's to not f**k up people's brains.
And if they were serious about player welfare any player who fails an hia should be out for 2 weeks.

It's a medical fact that the brain needs time to heal and continual playing can cause further damage.

https://qbi.uq.edu.au/brain/concussion/delayed-concussion-symptoms
 

Mr Spock!

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Major concussion shake-up for every rugby league club in Australia

Any grassroots rugby league player diagnosed with concussion will be forced to sit on the sidelines the following week and need a clearance from a doctor before playing again under a major shake-up of the sport’s head injury protocols.

As the NRL kicked off its new season on Thursday night, Australian grassroots rugby league clubs throughout the country are being educated on tough new protocols to protect players from brain injuries, ranging from under-age competitions to seniors.

The policy will mandate any adult rugby league player suffering from concussion will not be allowed to return to the field in less than 11 days.

Previously a concussed player had to go through a staged return to play schedule for a minimum of seven days, which could theoretically allow them to play a game the following week.


The 14-day stand-down period will still be in effect for junior players aged 18 or under.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ma...league-club-in-australia-20210224-p575dm.html

Apparently doesn't apply to NRL.....
 

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