The NRL Grand Final for the MCG!

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

If soccer went back to a winter sport then the victory would cease to exist, the majority of their supporter base is made up of sports starved AFL fans.

I have no doubt that it wouldn't affect Sydney's A League crowds.

Melbourne is the world capital for sporting insularity.

They'll see any one-off you care to nominate but stick a team these in another sport in direct competition to the AFL and they'll treat it like it has the plague.

 

[Fightin' Irish]

I have no doubt that it wouldn't affect Sydney's A League crowds.

Melbourne is the world capital for sporting insularity.

They'll see any one-off you care to nominate but stick a team these in another sport in direct competition to the AFL and they'll treat it like it has the plague.

Thats what i love about AFL fans though, their passion and loyalty. It6 can be viewed negatively for the reasons you mentioned but i see it as their games strength.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Their passion is no greater than the passion of other code's supporters.

Loyalty is a strange word to use in lieu of insularity.

Automatically ignore any code in competition with the AFL = loyalty?

The problem is that they are interested, as the ratings suggest. They're interested to the point where they'll watch the NRL GF, SOO and Storm games with the curtains drawn....

 

[dallymessenger]

Their passion is no greater than the passion of other code's supporters.

Loyalty is a strange word to use in lieu of insularity.

Automatically ignore any code in competition with the AFL = loyalty?

The problem is that they are interested, as the ratings suggest. They're interested to the point where they'll watch the NRL GF, SOO and Storm games with the curtains drawn....

if the media in melbourne gave the storm and RL as much publicity down there as we get up here for AFL, ive no doubt the game would be massive in victoria.

certainly in RL states our media, rightly or wrongly, gives heaps of attention to rival sports.

what the storm have achieved to date has been without much help from the media, which makes their achievements all the more impressive

 

[dallymessenger]

theres no doubt the NRL are massively underpaid but we were coming off such a small contract out of super league you couldnt really expect to be paid AFL money.

i would expect the next two respective contracts from the NRL& AFL to be much closer in value.

and if that happens, AFL is r**ted.

 

[Fightin' Irish]

Their passion is no greater than the passion of other code's supporters.

The difference is their passon equals cash, memberships and ticket sales feed their clubs. passion from a couch offers nothing

 

[Fightin' Irish]

and if that happens, AFL is r**ted.

the AFL's revenue is more than double leagues, a fairer TV deal to league wont change that much.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

The difference is their passon equals cash, memberships and ticket sales feed their clubs. passion from a couch offers nothing

The difference is that VFL clubs had to rely on memberships because they didn't have licenced clubs to back them like NSWRL teams did back in the day.

Nothing to do with passion.

Their memberships are glorified season tickets.

The passion is no different throughout the codes.

 

[dallymessenger]

the AFL's revenue is more than double leagues, a fairer TV deal to league wont change that much.

$80 million dollars more a year for RL clubs would blow AFL out of the water.

the sport cant compete with RL now and thats with a dodgy TV in its favour.

how many people in nsw or queensland would watch AFL if RL got a fair TV deal - ZERO.

AFL has its moment in the sun, but RL is throwing a massive shadown over that game.

with the AFL GF barely beating Origin 1 ratings this year, and the RL GF surpassing the AFL's, the dominance of RL is clear.

all thats left is a TV deal which reflects that ratings dominance and even AFL fans will accept it as well behind rugby league

 

[Fightin' Irish]

$80 million dollars more a year for RL clubs would blow AFL out of the water.

the sport cant compete with RL now and thats with a dodgy TV in its favour.

how many people in nsw or queensland would watch AFL if RL got a fair TV deal - ZERO.

AFL has its moment in the sun, but RL is throwing a massive shadown over that game.

with the AFL GF barely beating Origin 1 ratings this year, and the RL GF surpassing the AFL's, the dominance of RL is clear.

all thats left is a TV deal which reflects that ratings dominance and even AFL fans will accept it as well behind rugby league

is a better tv deal going to stop 6,500,000 people going to the afl games or 550,000 people buying afl memberships?

Im not sure you realise how big these afl clubs are?

As for the ratings for the GF well if melbourne dont make it next year it will take a hit, melbourne making the gf is a bonus much like it is for the afl when sydney make it.

 

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

a bonus of say 500K, once the regionals are counted league still wins out.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

is a better tv deal going to stop 6,500,000 people going to the afl games or 550,000 people buying afl memberships?

Im not sure you realise how big these afl clubs are?

As for the ratings for the GF well if melbourne dont make it next year it will take a hit, melbourne making the gf is a bonus much like it is for the afl when sydney make it.

err, 2005's ratings were bigger than 2007.

 

[dallymessenger]

is a better tv deal going to stop 6,500,000 people going to the afl games or 550,000 people buying afl memberships?

Im not sure you realise how big these afl clubs are?

As for the ratings for the GF well if melbourne dont make it next year it will take a hit, melbourne making the gf is a bonus much like it is for the afl when sydney make it.

those would be the same AFL clubs that cant generate as many viewers as the NRL GF did?

or those massive clubs that cant get Origin going etc?

or why RL is the number 1 sport on Foxsports despite AwFuL being shown on Foxsports 1 to try and get people interested.

that AFL is struggling with the large TV deal in their favour says they will struggle once commercial reality hits their deal.

 

[dallymessenger]

lets be honest here, the GF of AFL barely outrated our 2nd most watched program, Origin 1. it couldnt match our GF at all, got smashed by it.

with regard to Origin 1, it was only shown live in 3 states vs 5 for AFL. even with that advantage in AFL's favour, it only just beat Origin 1.

with 3 blockbuster origin games, and a GF, 4 of the most watched sporting events are RL with the AFL GF the only contributor.

that doesnt include tests or other rep games which AFL has nothing of and which do well ratings wise.

nor does that include the ratings of the NZ Warriors, who despite what AFL fans think, are actually part of the NRL, whilst they have no presence in NZ.

if it wasnt for SL, you never hear of AFL in sydney or brisbane.

 

[Razor]

2013 is the first year the NRL plans to take the Grand Final interstate.

They should have a bidding system.

Have open bidding, cities bid for the rights to host the Grand Final. Highest bidder wins. Have a silent bidding process. So a city might end up paying $150k more than the next highest. Just have a couple of conditions. Minimum 50,000 seat stadium, etc.

 

[kkingston]

AFL Average home and away attendance 36,379
Rugby league home and away average attendance 17000
End of story

 

[ouwet]

AFL Average home and away attendance 36,379
Rugby league home and away average attendance 17000
End of story

That's only the start mate... There are so many other factors to take into consideration AND TV RATINGS is one of them.

Besides if the NRL got rid of low drawing, never growing, isolated clubs like the Sharks those figures would jump.;-)

 

[kkingston]

Clubs that own there own ground?
What would the nrl be without teams struggling

 

[Steyger]

The top 5 of the year nationally in either code has 4 Rugby League matches.

1. NRL GF.
2. AFL GF.
3. SOO 1.
4. SOO 2.
5. SOO 3.

And the gap between #5 and # 6 is huge.

And the TV Execs (unlike you EA) have no idea in TV negotiation rights.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

And the TV Execs (unlike you EA) have no idea in TV negotiation rights.

Try "The NRL execs have no idea".

I don't begrudge AFL getting such a huge figure for a static product. Well done I say.

the next round will be interesting though...